So technology is quickly taking over. If this was a £1,500 option on your next car, would you tick the box and why?

I would as long as it allows you to sit in the back and get on with something else. I.e. Do an hours work before turning up for a meeting/ be drunk and eat your kebab... Obviously sat in the back.

The real twist is what will happen to all taxi/bus/goods vehicle drivers......

Edited 9 April, 201511 yr by MrCellotape

Honestly, no. Just no. For me personally it takes the fun away from driving, also who'd want to take there self driving car to the circuit, that'll confuse it

I would, so long as I could turn it off.

 

If I can cut my hour's commute to an hour of being a passenger then that would easily be worth £1,500 over a year or two. (Buses are much slower (and generally less pleasant in every way than a car) and involve a 30 minute walk before anyone suggests public transport ) During the time I'd save I could sleep, read a book, play on my laptop, eat, work 'from home' to cut down time in the office: all time well spent.

 

Do I trust the technology as it stands now? No.

Edited 9 April, 201511 yr by TriggerFish

Bet they will be programmed to stick to speed limits!

70 on the motorway indicated (real world 65mph) would take a lifetime to get anywhere.

And if it could speed does the car get the court appearance lol

Why wouldn't you want your self driving car to stick to the speed limits?

 

The idea of having your own private taxi is appealing. As long as it can be turned off to have fun doing some actual driving.

I would get it right away if available, if it could be turned off.

Just imagine a late saturday, just stumble out of the pub, fall into the back seat and try to tell the car to drive you home.

Computer glitch

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/05/opinion/safety-and-self-driving-cars.html?nlid=67480003&src=recpb&_r=0

Jay Leno's Garage had him in a Autonomous Audi around a track with it setting a time and then he drove the track with an instructor leading the way.

 (so really it was acting as a draft car.) He just bettered the time of the car that was autonomous.

The Audi's were very impressive.

Then this week UK TV is making a big deal on Driverless Tractors which taking into account what is already being used around the world is less impressive IMO.

**** that. I don't even like automatic gearboxes, because they take away part of the driving experience, let alone a fully automatic car. No thank you.

Computer glitch

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/05/opinion/safety-and-self-driving-cars.html?nlid=67480003&src=recpb&_r=0

N.B.    article taken from Business Times     trying to short Tesla shares?

**** that. I don't even like automatic gearboxes, because they take away part of the driving experience, let alone a fully automatic car. No thank you.

Your car will be incompatible with driverless ones ultimately along with the rest of us, when we won't even be able to 'interfere'.

Land Rover RR are proving up off-road autonomy it seems........takes away half the fun, I would have thought

http://articles.sae.org/14935/

I'm a real petrolhead, I love the sensations of driving however modern cars are increasingly taking this away with driver aids and safety features. I'm actually looking forward to fully autonomous cars, especially on motorways as long as there is still a place for 'real' cars.

I'm a real petrolhead, I love the sensations of driving however modern cars are increasingly taking this away with driver aids and safety features. I'm actually looking forward to fully autonomous cars, especially on motorways as long as there is still a place for 'real' cars.

Well I was listening to a Swinburne university academic being interviewed prior to a conference on Inteligent Transport Systems and autonomous vehicles, who said, as a matter of course, that basically, drivers would not be permitted to interfere in the process for obvious safety reasons.

The driver is the imponderable who must be taken out of the equation.

You can't be a little bit pregnant it seems.

Edited 19 October, 20169 yr by Ryeman

If it can be turned off, surely that defeats the object?

If it can be turned off, surely that defeats the object?

Exactly

Think of the social media work being done during the transition (((((

'Level 2' Tesla on the way to "no steering wheel"

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1107393_what-a-prototype-self-driving-tesla-sees-on-public-roads

https://youtu.be/vhZ_Nm1HT2s

Pat was ahead of his time

Who's responsible for accidents,  traffic violations  etc? Will it be an insurance nightmare?

Who's responsible for accidents,  traffic violations  etc? Will it be an insurance nightmare?

Look on the bright side: a lawyers picnic

Maybe google get sued

Yes, if I could switch it off. I do 600 miles a week to work and back, it'd be great just to climb into the car and chill while it took me to work. I'd still like to drive the car myself when I wanted to though. As for it not breaking the speed limit? Couldn't care less, I don't boot the car on my commute as it is (uses too much fuel, don't want to risk my licence just to get to work)...

Hell will freeze over before I'd put my 100% trust in technology.

 

A MASSIVE resounding NO! 

Not attractive in the first generation implementation that's being suggested.

 

The circumstances in which the driver can pass full control to the onboard processor are at present limited.

 

And even when the car has authority on  relatively low hazard operations, i understand that   UK road traffic law and the car's sensors will require you to be in the driving seat, looking straight ahead, hands on touching/resting on  steering wheel .  Not ideal - lots of unnecessary static positioning of limbs leading to muscle stress complaints. Furthermore, where's the consumer utility in that ? - all the restrictions imposed by driver operation without the enjoyment of  actually driving. Non- starter, surely ?

 

I think if the motor manufacturers intend to sell consumers this "Half-way" house in automation, using the novelty factor and "Keeping-up with the Jones",  it ain't going to last long, as  its going to undermine the "Driving experience" through  frustrationand  and ****-off a large number of drivers

 

I want  to drive when I want to drive and want to leave it to the car when I don't, irrespective of the outside road conditions. And, simultaneosly, I'd liked to  be assured that, no matter who is "In Control" , whether its petty bourgoise mums or those just interested in driving, that operation of the vehicle is done to a decent standard (At least equivalent to mine) and doesn't attract the unwanted attentions of wandering patrol cars - Although, at the moment, the imagined "Defence of the Realm"  would seem to make the latter a remote possibility.

 

Is that too much i to ask at this stage ? 

 

As an aside, I wonder how a car under automated control would deal with a Kamakazi attack by a whiplash willy scamster ?

 

Would an automated car be programmed to direct the vehicle, in very congested traffic conditions, to say, partially mount the pavement, or similar, to allow an emergency services vehicle  free passage ?

 

What happens when the on-board computer fails detect or misinterprets a significant vehicle fault, puncture etc. Can control be rested back by the diver if it fails to take action in a timely/appropriate way ?

 

What happen when it comes to a controlled traffic junction/zone, where the road furniture based control equipment is malfunctioning or has failed ?

 

In my view, you need a fully integrated system which include the car and all the external influences bearing on the car, not just the Mickey Mouse Google, collision detection and avoidance mechanism.

 

Can consumers be assured that the quality of the electronic equipment and its installtaion will have undergone  a significant improvement over the current generation ? If its based on existing quality standards - forget it..

 

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Edited 24 November, 20169 yr by Clunkclick

#23 - Indeed. There is one junction near my Mum's place where, in the event of failure of the traffic lights at certain times of day, the fastest way to get from Northbound on her street to Eastbound on the main road you're joining is to turn left and make a U turn at the roundabout about 0.4 miles West.

#23 - Indeed. There is one junction near my Mum's place where, in the event of failure of the traffic lights at certain times of day, the fastest way to get from Northbound on her street to Eastbound on the main road you're joining is to turn left and make a U turn at the roundabout about 0.4 miles West.

Not to say that, utimately, that degree of freedom of operation couldn't be achieved - but, I don't think its available in the current offering amd would obviously require a comprehensive systems integration and  scope. But that won't stop 'em - when have you ever heard of the Type Approval System inhibiting the adoption of dodgy designs - VW LT fuel tanks, unstable suzuki jeeps, fire prone Clios, Zaifiras etc.

 

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Edited 24 November, 20169 yr by Clunkclick