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If you just fit a tyre for now, the tyre place can probably whack out the worst of the damage with a rubber mallet - enough for it to hold pressure and balance for you anyway.

 

But if you're going to get it refurbed, this is a bit of a false economy - as the refurb place will charge you to remove & refit the tyre - so easier to take the rim as it is to them - get them to scrap the tyre on there, fix the rim for you, and either give them the new tyre to fit, or, take the rim to your chosen tyre centre afterwards to get the tyre fitted.

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If you just fit a tyre for now, the tyre place can probably whack out the worst of the damage with a rubber mallet - enough for it to hold pressure and balance for you anyway.

 

But if you're going to get it refurbed, this is a bit of a false economy - as the refurb place will charge you to remove & refit the tyre - so easier to take the rim as it is to them - get them to scrap the tyre on there, fix the rim for you, and either give them the new tyre to fit, or, take the rim to your chosen tyre centre afterwards to get the tyre fitted.

 

Yeah that is my plan for now, as I would just give the repairer the alloy with the duff tyre. Get 'em to do the repair and scrap the tyre. When I get the alloy back I've got a place to sort the new tyres out.

At the moment I'm just waiting on the repairer to get back to me as I've not had time to run down there in person.

 

Having read various views on the whole repairing of bent or buckled rims, I got the impression that structure of the alloy may not be the same on a repair and recommend that a replacement is done if possible for safety. The misses uses the car with the wee one, so got me thinking of a new replacement as an alternative. So far this option works out at 160quid which probably isn't overly bad compared to some places charging 270quid. 

 

I reckon the repair may be in the region of 70-90quid and if its 90 up, then I'm toying on perhaps getting a new one at 160? Not really too much and gives the added piece of mind if that makes sense? 

Shall see....how it goes.

The cheaper ones come from a different source to the factory fitted wheels but are still OEM wheels. I would opt for those in the first link rather repair the damaged wheel which has clearly suffered a significant impact and could have hidden damage. JMTPW.

Something like a magnaflux inspection would be done for crack detection if it was an acft wheel.

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The cheaper ones come from a different source to the factory fitted wheels but are still OEM wheels. I would opt for those in the first link rather repair the damaged wheel which has clearly suffered a significant impact and could have hidden damage. JMTPW.

 

interesting.....my local garage has quoted me £273.90 with a part number of 5L0601025H. So reckon that's the OEM factory fitted one.

However, Caffyn Skoda have quoted a significantly cheaper price of £157.80 with a part number of CCH630003. Which is the accessory part number.

Led to believe they are both the same alloy.

Is the large difference in prices due to the underlying dealership Or just due to one being under an accessory code and other being the factory OEM part code. Wonder if I should phone back to the local garage and ask for the accessory part price??

I like your thinking -Caffyns are reputable and you may just simply have found an anomaly in pricing which is probably explicable as manufacturers O/E is the price list for insurance funded accident repairs a well known scam whereby the motor industry feeds on the fact that in the UK insurance is a compulsory levy on the driving public. I wouldn't want to depend on a repair of such a damaged rim although I concede there is a reputable possible repair market I suspect there are a lot of monkeys with rubber mallets blow lamps and spray paint who may well not be there when you're on a steep down hill bend with a failed wheel and oncoming traffic.

Having read various views on the whole repairing of bent or buckled rims, I got the impression that structure of the alloy may not be the same on a repair and recommend that a replacement is done if possible for safety. The misses uses the car with the wee one, so got me thinking of a new replacement as an alternative.

 

For me, that would also be the main reason not to run on the damaged-not-yet-repaired rim with a new tyre.  I doesn't seem logical not to trust your loved ones' safety to a repaired rim, but apparently (based on your earlier postings) to trust a damaged rim that hasn't been repaired...

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Having read various views on the whole repairing of bent or buckled rims, I got the impression that structure of the alloy may not be the same on a repair and recommend that a replacement is done if possible for safety.

 

More horse$hit from uninformed people, or those that stand to profit by dealing in such doom & gloom. Probably the same bunch that claim a tyre is unrepairable once you have used the temporary puncture repair gloop.

 

I have had probably 10-12 wheels straightened over the years and never had an issue with any of them. The Brabus wheels used on my Smart Roadster are well known to bend easily, and if you look on the smart forums you will see owners budget about £200 a year in wheel straightening - so commonplace is the need to get them repaired.

 

The company I use (MyAlloys in Basingstoke) repair & refurb wheels on the local Merc dealership's used stock. They regularly have AMG wheels in there being straightened - if they are safe to put on a car that is good for 200mph, I think a slightly dinged Yeti wheel will be absolutely fine.

 

But hey, if you want to bin a perfectly & safely repairable wheel, you go for it. I couldn't afford to be so wasteful myself.

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I'm hating the drive on the spare!

 

You made an excellent decision to get a spare and it has already paid its keep. You still have a car to drive around in while you get repairs sorted :clap:  :beer:

What would the situation have been like without it? :doh:

you don't need to answer that question,   

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For me, that would also be the main reason not to run on the damaged-not-yet-repaired rim with a new tyre.  I doesn't seem logical not to trust your loved ones' safety to a repaired rim, but apparently (based on your earlier postings) to trust a damaged rim that hasn't been repaired...

I guess some tyre places gave me the impression that it was ok to drive on it, so did think there was that much of an issue at the time. Until I started to read more regarding some of the issues in other internet posts and general articles surrounding this subject. I got the impression such a repair was very specialised and read stories of some not being good either due to the lack of experience in the repairer etc.

I also spoke to one of the repairers today and they didn't give me a good vibe suggesting that a repair may not fix vibrations 100%. So my trust on relying on such a repair would always be in the back of my mind. Having investigated the costs of the replacement it wasn't as bad which changed my thought on the whole thing.

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You made an excellent decision to get a spare and it has already paid its keep. You still have a car to drive around in while you get repairs sorted :clap:  :beer:

What would the situation have been like without it? :doh:

you don't need to answer that question,

Nah your rite! It was a wise option to pick.....and certainly given me time to get things sorted while still on da road

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More horse$hit from uninformed people, or those that stand to profit by dealing in such doom & gloom. Probably the same bunch that claim a tyre is unrepairable once you have used the temporary puncture repair gloop.

 

I have had probably 10-12 wheels straightened over the years and never had an issue with any of them. The Brabus wheels used on my Smart Roadster are well known to bend easily, and if you look on the smart forums you will see owners budget about £200 a year in wheel straightening - so commonplace is the need to get them repaired.

 

The company I use (MyAlloys in Basingstoke) repair & refurb wheels on the local Merc dealership's used stock. They regularly have AMG wheels in there being straightened - if they are safe to put on a car that is good for 200mph, I think a slightly dinged Yeti wheel will be absolutely fine.

 

But hey, if you want to bin a perfectly & safely repairable wheel, you go for it. I couldn't afford to be so wasteful myself.

Never had to straighten any wheels but only had some very minor comestic alloy refurbs done.

Like you say I'm sure it's fine on a large majority of the cases particular when done correctly. However personally I just didn't feel comfortable using companies without knowledge of their experience and skill. Especially when the car would be used for the kids etc. Having read reviews and experiences of others some good but some bad so just didn't want to take the risk for the sake of another 100quid.

Probably would have felt differently if the car was used solely for me and if the costs were hugely different by several hundreds. I would probably take the chance or had more time to investigate...unfor your local place is miles away as I'm up in scotland.

May I give my opinion?

Hi Hyeung, re your post #37, buy a new wheel & tyre.

Your life is just as important as your wife and your child.

If you asked them they should agree with that, if not, you have a problem.

 

Please do not take the chance on a repair, however good or expert the repairers are and have been in the past.

You have a car worth/costing new some where around £25000, a wheel & tyre is around 1% of that worth.

If would feel unhappy, or not safe for others to drive the car, then it ain't safe for you.

^ +1 also weigh in the old rim, could reduce overall cost, no idea the value of ali

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^ +1 also weigh in the old rim, could reduce overall cost, no idea the value of ali

Wouldn't think a mangled rim would be worth anything...

Have you asked your insurance company what they recommend? - they tend to be pretty conservative.

weight not condition!

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Thanks for everyone's feedback......I managed to get my new replacement alloy from the dealers.

So if anyone is looking for an alloy via dealer make sure you check if there's a separate accessory version of the alloy. As dealers appear to have 2 part numbers for the same alloy, the one that's factory oem appears to alway be more expensive! Apparently they use that for warranty claims etc. Lucky for me I noticed this having found different prices for the same part.

Anyhow, managed to also make my way to a local costco and got a full set of the new Michelin cross climate tyres....the summer tyre that's also rated for winter snow n wet conditions. I think costco always do the best price for michelins as they worked out at 137quid per corner. Was actually needing new tyres soon anyways so did the full set.

Some good reviews online, but will see how they perform in time to come.....

The only thing now is to get the car in for a full 4 wheel alignment check next week. Now with a full set of tyres back on, I've not notice any obvious drifting, and car drives pretty straight. however previously the drivers passengers side had some abnormal wear on the outside where the drivers side was fine (tyre pressures were identical).

Hopefully alignment will sort that and pick up any other adjustments needed if possible?

Btw are alignment adjustments even possible on the front or rear....

Cheers,

Hung

Good choice and decision-I'm considering the new Michelins and would be very interested in your take on them.

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still early days on the new cross climates but certainly feels more comfy ride...not sure if it was my imagination but certainly seems to absorb bumps n rough roads better than the old oem Dunlops. Then again not sure if it's because I've got fresh new tyres on.

Noise wise is good, not any noiser and again seemed little quiter? 

The tread patterns look pretty neat...V shape.

But will know better once they break in and as the wet and snowy weather comes in.....

New ones are always going to seem a vast improvement in ride and noise compare to old worn ones.

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Hi,

Just had a 4 wheel alignment carried out today with the new set of tyres.

Was given the following print out of before and after.

As mentioned I hit some debris on the front driver side causing a bent alloy. But previous to this I notice sone abnormal ware on the out side edge of the front passenger tyre.

Anyone make sense of these settings and new adjustments? Do they look good, just hope it will have fixed the wear issues on the outside edge of the front passenger. And no wear impact due to the recent accident.

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