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Most of the discussion is around the 1.4 TSI ACT but what about the ordinary 1.4 TSI with 125 BHP? Does anyone own it or have made test drive?

Common sense says that it should be enough because the body weight of the combi is 1320 kg.

I'm interested to order Superb III Combi with 1.4 TSI 125BHP but before that it could be great to hear other opinions.

From what I know the 1.4TSi 125ps is the same unit fitted to my Mk2 Combi. The Mk2 combi weighs in at about 1,500Kg and is a very capable vehicle.

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Little bit off topic but have they solved the increased oil consumption what was involved previous TSI engines?

That was a totally different Euro 5 1.4 TSI, it was the 180-185ps Twincharger.   Not even the 1.4 TSI 150ps Twincharger as used by Seat in the Ibiza Cupra FR.  Or the other various 1.4 TSI with Turbo only.

http://revotechnik.com/support/rechnical/14tsi-twincharger-engine-issues

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Little bit off topic but have they solved the increased oil consumption what was involved previous TSI engines?

 

My Superb II with the previous EA111 1.4 tsi engine does not use oil between services

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Does anyone here own new S3 with 1.4 TSI 125ps engine?

  • 2 weeks later...

Seconded,

 

Colin D - Did you ever spot the Active Cylinder Technology in action - i.e. dropping to two cylinders & back to four

 

Interesting re "6th at 60mph was 2k rpm" because thats what my mk II 1.4 does (heavier & lower power) - clearly an overdrive

 

 

    mph at 1000rpm is always a factor  for me, and  the ACT seems to do 30mph, my 140 diesel manual with 18" wheels does 37 -38 as best I can determine, and as such, apart from the occasional burst in 1st gear,the engine hardly ever goes above 2000 rpm, very relaxing on motorway, where most of my driving is done. But the car, now over 5 yrs old has only done 15700 miles.

Foot on accelerator overrides the ACC. Re your deer scenario - ACC will only slow you down at a certain rate of deceleration. If ACC determines that it cannot stop you before colliding with the object within the given parameters then you will get an alarm in the car and Front Assist takes over. This is what will try to stop you in time. I'm not sure if this overrides you if you are accelerating. I don't think it would though. Having had it happen a couple of times, the second that warning sound comes on, you're off the accelerator any ways.

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I have front assist on my mk3 Octavia. From personal experience it does try to override you accelerating if it detects something in front, I've had it slam the anchors when I've been pulling out quickly from behind a stationary car as it thought there wasn't the space. Bit of an eye opener but didn't cause me any problem.

My dealer tells me that 1.4 TSI is involved in the VW scandal BUT only the Euro 5 engine NOT the Euro 6 that is present on the S3

had my 1.4 act dsg se-l for a few days now and can report the following

 

70 mph in 7th gear and the revs are just below 2000 rpm

 

you cannot feel when the act system cuts in only the dash warning gives you an indication

 

dsg is smooth and can hardly feel the gear changes

 

mpg is improving currently at 42 mpg ( but not done a lot of miles yet )

 

was told by dealer upon pickup

 

"1.4 act engine in the superb is not involved in the latest vw scandal" ( although the same engine in audi, seat and vw's are ).

My dealer tells me that 1.4 TSI is involved in the VW scandal BUT only the Euro 5 engine NOT the Euro 6 that is present on the S3

 

The petrols were only involved in the CO2 scandal and not the original NOx cheat issue - but I thought the 1.4 had since been cleared of this anyway when used in the Skodas

 

Isn't this the other way round - I thought it was the ACT versions (all euro 6?) that was originally implicated, first used in Audi's from 2012 and then in the Octavia III / Superb III

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It's the car that is tested, not the engine. It's all therefore down to how the individual manufacturer tested their particular cars (and behaved while doing so).

Of the 9 engines that VW finally admitted were those with the Co2 Irregularities, the Passat 1.4TSI ACT BMT 110kW EU6, 6 Speed manual 

was the only petrol car other than a 1.0 TSI Polo BMT.

had my 1.4 act dsg se-l for a few days now and can report the following

70 mph in 7th gear and the revs are just below 2000 rpm

you cannot feel when the act system cuts in only the dash warning gives you an indication

dsg is smooth and can hardly feel the gear changes

mpg is improving currently at 42 mpg ( but not done a lot of miles yet )

was told by dealer upon pickup

"1.4 act engine in the superb is not involved in the latest vw scandal" ( although the same engine in audi, seat and vw's are ).

It'll be great to hear more of your thoughts on the 1.4 DSG engine if you wouldn't mind? Skoda say the torque is 250nm, so I'm curious as to how you find the pulling power when overtaking at higher speeds in such a heavy car? Does she really struggle or is the balance just right?

And also, you mentioned that there is a notice when ACT is engaged. Where does it appear on the Maxidot and what does it look like? Does it use up space usually reserved for something else?

am still running the engine in so haven't given it the full beans yet

 

coming from a diesel there is a difference but not as big as i was expecting

 

once the engine is run in i shall give more feed back

 

the warning comes up on maxidot in the main section ( nothing i have noticed is removed ) and says either

 

" 2 cylinder deactivation " or "2 cylinder mode " something like that.

 

you don't notice any lack of power or hesitation. press harder on the pedal and the warning disappears and you accelerate like normal.

For two cylinder as jeehi comments, the maxidot confirms when two cylinder activated shows below vehicle data when viewing MPG etc, also there is a little e symbol displayed. If you're in Sat Nav view where more of the maxidot field is utilised you just get the e symbol.

Like jeehi, in still taking it easy but with two up on a manual I'm not having to change gears gently frequently. It'll happily take fifth at thirty and accelerate promptly in fourth at that speed including up hill.

On the open road it'll really take block gear changes, and I particularly find 4th to 6th if you accelerate briskly out of a thirty zone.

Quickly passed a car,doing fifty this evening by dropping to fourth and was up to seventy in no time at all, then straight into sixth and cruise back down to national limit.

MPG average standing at 46 on first tank full and seeing 600 miles covered so far.

Plus the gear change is so sweet it's a pleasure to stir the cogs and this is coming from an auto, although not a dsg admittedly.

It'll be great to hear more of your thoughts on the 1.4 DSG engine if you wouldn't mind? Skoda say the torque is 250nm, so I'm curious as to how you find the pulling power when overtaking at higher speeds in such a heavy car? Does she really struggle or is the balance just right?

And also, you mentioned that there is a notice when ACT is engaged. Where does it appear on the Maxidot and what does it look like? Does it use up space usually reserved for something else?

 

 

My Mazda 6 tourer (2.0 NA petrol) has 145ps and only 210Nm torque, and it weighs about the same as the S3. It can feel a bit asthmatic moving off sometimes, at least in as much as you notice other cars moving off rather smartly. That said it's only until it gets into the power band (>3k revs) in first, and that's because it's a naturally aspirated engine. You shouldn't have any issues there because the 1.4 TSI is forced induction (i.e. turbo charged). As such the bulk of the torque is available over a huge swathe of the rev range, starting right low down. I test drove the same engine last year in the Octy, which isn't that much lighter than the S3, and it was ample.

 

I've ordered the S3 2.0 TSI 220hp but being honest the more I read about the 1.4 150 with decent enough power and diesel-like MPG the more I wish I could have test driven one lol. 

Ordered the exact same car, colour and interior but only front heated windscreen and rear wiper.

Mats, tunnel mats and flip-out boot mat will be coming from Superskoda.

http://www.superskoda.com/Skoda/SUPERB-III/Superb-III-original-Skoda-rubber-mat-over-the-rear-tunnel

http://www.superskoda.com/Skoda/SUPERB-III/Superb-III-Limousine-flip-folding-boot-mat-textile-rubber-original-Skoda-Autoas

 

What an outrageous price for A BIT OF MAT ( £80 ). I am sure most  people can lay their hands on something equally effective at min cost. I already have.

What an outrageous price for A BIT OF MAT ( £80 ). I am sure most  people can lay their hands on something equally effective at min cost. I already have.

 

It's double sided and opens up to cover the rear seats where they are lowered. Compared to the cost of footwell mats it's not a lot at all.

  • 4 weeks later...

Answer to this thread is a YES.

Picked up my 1.4 tsi ACT SE estate yesterday. Early days but the engine is easily man enough for this sized car. Granted it's not a sports car but hey I didnt buy it to hurtle around in but just to transport the kids and clobber in comfort. I owned a 2litre mazda 6 before (nice car by the way) but this engine is more responsive than the mazda. The change from 4 to 2 cylinders is seamless and you don't even notice the change appart from the matrix screen telling you it's in Eco mode.

Really please so far. I must admit I was a little apprehensive as could not find one to test drive before taking the plunge. I needn't have worried. Great car!

Picking up my manual 1.4 tsi act tonight. Really excited first new car ever. Checked it out on Thursday last week only 7.4 miles on the clock it's going to be great. I know it's going to be a lot better than my laguna 1.5 dci French box (which I'm struggling to sell).

keep us updated Woody

Some real-world mpg figures would also be appreciated :)

To dark to take any photos, but wow what a car big roomy and quite fast well very fast compared to my old laguna anyway. defiantly not lacking in power takes off really well drive amazing so comfortable and packed with tech really happy dont regret it one bit first drive was amazing will update on fuel in a few weeks as only done 10 miles and most of that was in Liverpool city center at rush hour so very start stop. but just filled it up and it cost £62.50 ouch but never mind new toy will have fun. hopefully give a more detailed review at the weekend. but if your thinking about this engine I would say yes go for it you wont be disappointed. 

if your thinking about this engine I would say yes go for it you wont be disappointed.

What he said :)

So far I have covered about 1700 miles in the last 2 1/2 months.  MPG is disappointing at approx. 35.5 but it is winter and the cold weather doesn't help, and there is a lot of start stop in my 9 mile 35+minute each way commute every day partly down narrow muddy country lanes with passing places. Nevertheless, the car is still amazingly smooth and has plenty of poke when you put it in sport mode and put your foot down.  It is a vast improvement on the Mk2 Elegance 2.0 TDI 170 4x4 that I had.  Really quiet and refined.

 

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