Hello every one, I'm just a new to my superb 280, I've run only 800km till now, but I've noticed a very faint humming sound during gentle deceleration, or when my foot is off throttle on low speed on normal mode. It sound like if the asphalt isn't just so smooth....is it normal?? Thank you

Edited 19 February, 20215 yr by AhmedMaksoud

12 hours ago, AhmedMaksoud said:

Hello every one, I'm just a new to my superb 280, I've run only 800km till now, but I've noticed a very faint humming sound during gentle deceleration, or when my foot is off throttle on low speed on normal mode. It sound like if the asphalt isn't just so smooth....is it normal?? Thank you

Good morning my friends, after more concentrated efforts, I figured out that this humming sound is present at exactly 1500 rpm, no matter what car speed is, whenever rpm hit 1500, while my foot is off throttle, I feel this faint vibrating humming sound....any ideas?

48 minutes ago, AhmedMaksoud said:

Good morning my friends, after more concentrated efforts, I figured out that this humming sound is present at exactly 1500 rpm, no matter what car speed is, whenever rpm hit 1500, while my foot is off throttle, I feel this faint vibrating humming sound....any ideas?

Think there was a heat shield or a fuel pipe that used to be an issue for rattling on the bulkhead. 

On 12/02/2021 at 21:17, AlVal said:

Superchips remapped today, so far so good, Dale showed up in a van marked 'remap kings', gave him the key, left him to it, about an hour later it's done. I'm perfectly happy with it, to me feels like it's gone from a fast car to a real sleeper weapon, and the engine now isn't the limiting factor in terms of performance. Im still too new to this car to test its limits on icy b roads at the moment, but suffice to say I'm happy with my remap - and at £388 (£100 off during Feb) quite the deal, I remember they were the official tuning partner of Volkswagen Racing UK and provided custom remapping on all VW Racing UK's cars for Volkswagen Racing Cup

Any more update on the Superchips tune,appreciate only a week but any real world driving feedback appreciated.  The deal does look good ,was considering Revo stage1 as other option,mainly based on more information and reviews .

2 hours ago, Hen64 said:

Any more update on the Superchips tune,appreciate only a week but any real world driving feedback appreciated.  The deal does look good ,was considering Revo stage1 as other option,mainly based on more information and reviews .

Couldn't be happier. I make sure to wait until the oil temp gets up to at least 80, preferably 90 before giving it any real welly, and give it at least 5 mins of cooldown before turning off the engine, just as good practice for any turbo car really. I find myself manually switching gears to get the best out of it, but that's a reflection of the gearbox, not the map. If you're happy that your engine is in good health, and aren't bothered about getting before/after rolling road printouts, I'm not sure whether you're going to get much/any benefit from the more expensive revo/apr maps. If I can stop blasting money on the car and keep some aside to get a dragy, I'll have some real world data to show, but honestly, unless you're planning on spending more and more on the car including heavily changing the suspension and weight reduction measures (lighter wheels etc) , (and in the course of doing so , losing the refined luxury family car nature of it) the superchips map will give you more power than the handling is designed for, so it's absolutely all you need for the public road. Highly recommended. Already had the satisfaction of easily trolling a real a**hole in a Merc GLE400 who was trying to drive all over me on the road. I haven't tried any launch control launches yet, I'm sort of reluctant to just because I tend to have a fair amount of mechanical sympathy for cars, but I'm sure I'll give it a go soon.

On 05/02/2021 at 13:26, TheBinarySheep said:

 

@Bigeater It would be interesting to see a view showing how your exhaust sounds at idle and being rev'd as there's not many 280's with a resonator delete and it's something I'm considering myself.

 

a little clip for you....  

Who's got lowering springs on their 280ps?

 

Concerned because eibach quite the same part E10-79-012-04-22 for estate and notchback, yet h&r show an estate/kombi 4x4 part yet no part suitable for the 4x4 280ps limo

 

28784-1 2wd limousine  axial load up to 980kg, not 2.0 tdi, not sport or bad road suspension, with ABE*

28784-2 2wd limousine axial load 981kg+, not 2.0 tdi, not sport or bad road suspension, with ABE*

28784-3 2wd limousine 2.0 tdi only, not sport ot bad road suspension, with ABE*

 

28784-4 4wd estate/kombi axial load up to 980kg, not 2.0 tdi, not sport or bad road suspension, with ABE*

28784-5 4wd estate/kombi axial load 981kg+, not 2.0 tdi, not sport or bad road suspension, with ABE*

28784-6 4wd estate/kombi 2.0 tdi only, not sport ot bad road suspension, with ABE*

 

28784-7 2wd estate/kombi axial load up to 980kg, not 2.0 tdi, not sport or bad road suspension, with ABE*

28784-8 2wd estate/kombi axial load 981kg+, not 2.0 tdi, not sport or bad road suspension, with ABE*

28784-9 2wd estate/kombi 2.0 tdi only, not sport ot bad road suspension, with ABE*

 

 

On 28/02/2021 at 06:22, AlVal said:

Who's got lowering springs on their 280ps?

 

Concerned because eibach quite the same part E10-79-012-04-22 for estate and notchback, yet h&r show an estate/kombi 4x4 part yet no part suitable for the 4x4 280ps limo

 

28784-1 2wd limousine  axial load up to 980kg, not 2.0 tdi, not sport or bad road suspension, with ABE*

28784-2 2wd limousine axial load 981kg+, not 2.0 tdi, not sport or bad road suspension, with ABE*

28784-3 2wd limousine 2.0 tdi only, not sport ot bad road suspension, with ABE*

 

28784-4 4wd estate/kombi axial load up to 980kg, not 2.0 tdi, not sport or bad road suspension, with ABE*

28784-5 4wd estate/kombi axial load 981kg+, not 2.0 tdi, not sport or bad road suspension, with ABE*

28784-6 4wd estate/kombi 2.0 tdi only, not sport ot bad road suspension, with ABE*

 

28784-7 2wd estate/kombi axial load up to 980kg, not 2.0 tdi, not sport or bad road suspension, with ABE*

28784-8 2wd estate/kombi axial load 981kg+, not 2.0 tdi, not sport or bad road suspension, with ABE*

28784-9 2wd estate/kombi 2.0 tdi only, not sport ot bad road suspension, with ABE*

 

 

I have the Eibachs on mine, E10-79-012-04-22 is the correct kit number (not part number) for the 280/272 hatch and they work great. You can see how much they drop and lots of other info in the Eibach thread in my signature. 
Mind you, there was a mistake with mine in the beginning and softer rear springs were used due to an error in an older Eibach catalog, this was later discovered and fixed with the correct rear springs I write all about it in that thread (not a huge difference anyway).

No idea why H&R do not show any items suitable for the sedan/hatch but I wouldn't worry about it tbh.

Edited 1 March, 20215 yr by newbie69

For all those who own a 280PS or 272PS can you provide me a average fuel economy please.

 

I am interested in getting a 272PS if I can find one in l&k with black leathers and rear wiper.

 

However I wanted to get an idea of fuel economy.

 

My regular commute is 10 miles to work via 1 mile of B roads, 3 miles of dual carriageway and 6 miles motorway and then return home. I currently have a 2019 l&k 190TDI and over this 20 miles round trip per day I average 38-40mpg.

24 minutes ago, RCW89 said:

For all those who own a 280PS or 272PS can you provide me a average fuel economy please.

 

I am interested in getting a 272PS if I can find one in l&k with black leathers and rear wiper.

 

However I wanted to get an idea of fuel economy.

 

My regular commute is 10 miles to work via 1 mile of B roads, 3 miles of dual carriageway and 6 miles motorway and then return home. I currently have a 2019 l&k 190TDI and over this 20 miles round trip per day I average 38-40mpg.

Mine would be doing about 28-30mpg under those conditions. Has seen 44mpg on a good run. 

35 minutes ago, UndertheRadar said:

Mine would be doing about 28-30mpg under those conditions. Has seen 44mpg on a good run. 

Thank you very much, there are times when my car does around 28-34mpg under the same conditions which for a diesel isn't very good. 

 

I got rid of my 2016 SE-L 220PS as that thing wa seriously drinking fuel that was only getting around 22-24mpg under same conditions, took it to different dealers they said they couldn't find any faults but clearly there had to be. Also around town it was getting 18-20mpg.

 

I do miss having a petrol though but just wanted to see if I should really go back and hope that the next one will be alot better on fuel.

I'd guess that one of the issues with your poor mpg is the short duration of your journey doesn't really allow the car to get up to its ideal operating temperature.

 

I had a 15 mile commute, before Covid, that was 1 mile local roads, 9 miles NSL dual carriageway then 4 miles city centre traffic. My diesel never got great mpg on that run when compared to the motorway.

 

You may find a petrol is better as the engine will get up to operating temperature quicker than a diesel. Plus you know a 272/280 will generally be more fun 😀

1 hour ago, jeffl said:

I'd guess that one of the issues with your poor mpg is the short duration of your journey doesn't really allow the car to get up to its ideal operating temperature.

 

I had a 15 mile commute, before Covid, that was 1 mile local roads, 9 miles NSL dual carriageway then 4 miles city centre traffic. My diesel never got great mpg on that run when compared to the motorway.

 

You may find a petrol is better as the engine will get up to operating temperature quicker than a diesel. Plus you know a 272/280 will generally be more fun 😀

I know my journey isnt long it's actually 12 mins during the early morning and 20-25 during the daytime so I do actually let the car warm up for 10 minutes before I travel.

 

Your right though a petrol would definitely be more fun and I do miss that about my 220 but it I go back definitely has to be a 272/280.

 

 

4 hours ago, RCW89 said:

For all those who own a 280PS or 272PS can you provide me a average fuel economy please.

 

I am interested in getting a 272PS if I can find one in l&k with black leathers and rear wiper.

 

However I wanted to get an idea of fuel economy.

 

My regular commute is 10 miles to work via 1 mile of B roads, 3 miles of dual carriageway and 6 miles motorway and then return home. I currently have a 2019 l&k 190TDI and over this 20 miles round trip per day I average 38-40mpg.

 

My commute is 10 miles to work. 5 miles A & B roads, 5 miles on motorway. I get 28-32mpg, depending on traffic.

My last car a v8  (which i had for 10 years) , only returned 23mpg, so i am well happy with this. Oh, and i'm on 390PS now.

19 minutes ago, Bigeater said:

 

My commute is 10 miles to work. 5 miles A & B roads, 5 miles on motorway. I get 28-32mpg, depending on traffic.

My last car a v8  (which i had for 10 years) , only returned 23mpg, so i am well happy with this. Oh, and i'm on 390PS now.

Thank you so much for this response. On average it's not a great deal more I am getting from a diesel considering I have alot less power.

 

390ps is nice, who did your tuning? 

8 hours ago, RCW89 said:

I know my journey isnt long it's actually 12 mins during the early morning and 20-25 during the daytime so I do actually let the car warm up for 10 minutes before I travel.

Letting the car idle for such a long time does not do any good. 30sec max, while say you put your seatbelt on or select modes, media etc. is fine, then just set off while obviously taking it easy during the first 5-10min (depending of temperature).

The engine only really gets up to temp by driving it, idle has minimum effect and just wastes fuel for nothing.

3 minutes ago, newbie69 said:

Letting the car idle for such a long time does not do any good. 30sec max, while say you put your seatbelt on or select modes, media etc. is fine, then just set off while obviously taking it easy during the first 5-10min (depending of temperature).

The engine only really gets up to temp by driving it, idle has minimum effect and just wastes fuel for nothing.

I have been working early shifts most of the year so far and it has been really cold recently 6 - -2 degrees and my local dealers recommend warming the car up for 5-10 mins as my journeys are so short. That's why I let it warm up for 10 minutes As when I'm starting work at 5 and leaving for work at 4.30 I am at work by 4.43.

9 minutes ago, RCW89 said:

I have been working early shifts most of the year so far and it has been really cold recently 6 - -2 degrees and my local dealers recommend warming the car up for 5-10 mins as my journeys are so short. That's why I let it warm up for 10 minutes As when I'm starting work at 5 and leaving for work at 4.30 I am at work by 4.43.

Your dealer probably needs to touch base with modern engines... -2 is not even proper cold   We get -5 / -10 easily over the winter on a daily basis here and everybody simply starts the car and sets off.

You obviously don't want to be taking it to 5K rpm right away or in fact for any part of your 10min trip (being so short) as the oil would probably still be closer to 60-70 deg by the time you reach your destination in that temperature, but letting it idle does not help at all and is just a waste of time and fuel.

25 minutes ago, newbie69 said:

Your dealer probably needs to touch base with modern engines... -2 is not even proper cold   We get -5 / -10 easily over the winter on a daily basis here and everybody simply starts the car and sets off.

You obviously don't want to be taking it to 5K rpm right away or in fact for any part of your 10min trip (being so short) as the oil would probably still be closer to 60-70 deg by the time you reach your destination in that temperature, but letting it idle does not help at all and is just a waste of time and fuel.

Lol, tha k you very much for your input, I certainly don't take the car to high Rpms at all and infact I should have mentioned from the start that this 38-40mpg is done on Eco mode and doing the same journey is normal mode I only get around 31-33mpg.

Edited 6 March, 20215 yr by RCW89

8 miles each way in urban city 22 to 39 mins. Lockdown has meant journeys are quite smooth, couple of traffic light sets and a few rolling entry roundabouts gives around 26 average, up to just on 30 on good days, 24 if there's more stop / start. 

The average can be up to 28 within 10 mins. 

The days you dont care are the most fun though.

28 miles each way (24 if I go a different route through a nearby major town) with the first 8-10 miles being back roads then motorway for my work and I get around 30-34 going in (downhill to motorway) then between 24-28 coming home depending on if I behave or not. Overall average is around 27.5mpg for me after 5-6k miles ownership.

Lovely car to drive but it’s not ever gonna be economical! My last superb was a diesel 140bhp and that only averaged around 38 on the same driving....

6 hours ago, SkudMissile21 said:

28 miles each way (24 if I go a different route through a nearby major town) with the first 8-10 miles being back roads then motorway for my work and I get around 30-34 going in (downhill to motorway) then between 24-28 coming home depending on if I behave or not. Overall average is around 27.5mpg for me after 5-6k miles ownership.

Lovely car to drive but it’s not ever gonna be economical! My last superb was a diesel 140bhp and that only averaged around 38 on the same driving....

Thank you for your reply, I have alot to think about after all these replies.

9 hours ago, Chazzy said:

8 miles each way in urban city 22 to 39 mins. Lockdown has meant journeys are quite smooth, couple of traffic light sets and a few rolling entry roundabouts gives around 26 average, up to just on 30 on good days, 24 if there's more stop / start. 

The average can be up to 28 within 10 mins. 

The days you dont care are the most fun though.

Thank you for your reply, so I am seeing the average seems to be around 28-30mpg.

Also as above. Ten minute idle not good for your engine. I start the car and wait for it to come down off fast idle, then drive conservatively until it reaches running temp. 

2 hours ago, UndertheRadar said:

Also as above. Ten minute idle not good for your engine. I start the car and wait for it to come down off fast idle, then drive conservatively until it reaches running temp. 

Thank you very much

Has anyone modified their Haldex? Both United Motorsport and Van der Veer have units that allow you to tune the haldex to encourage more regular pushing to AWD 

 

https://www.vdveer-engineering.nl/index.php/en/shop/controllers/haldex-controller-gen5-0cq-detail

http://unitedmotorsport.net/products/haldex-software/