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Love how this 'scandal' isn't even news worthy anymore, dissapeared alot quicker than i'd expect.  :D :D

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There's a link on the german Skoda website to the following recall website:

http://skoda-recallactions.azurewebsites.net/de-de/?s=W&cd=0

When I enter my FIN number I get the all clear.

My VRS TDI is a EU5 model built in the 4th week of 2015.

 

This would confirm the initial comments that only the EA189 are affected and that the EA288 is the one we got...for now at least, who knows what they will find out in the future. But SKODA is definitely affected as some users with a 1Z (not the E5 as the octy 3) Come up as in need of an update).

HTH

thanks, for the info that's useful to know.

Yep I think we can safely say for now at least that an MQB car is safe.

For anyone still interested in the GTD v GTE debarcle (supposedly quicker than GTI....)......Ive done some looking up.

GTD

HP 181

Weight (as a 5 door DSG) 1425kg

Power to weight 129hp/ton

GTE

HP 201

Weight (5 door DSG only)......1599kg....yep you read that right straight from the VW brochure

Power to weight despite 20hp advantage...128hp/ton

Id wager once on the move there is very little to tell them apart.

A manual 5 door has a power to weight of 131hp/ton....the 3 door 134hp/ton......

I knew the GTE was heavy but almost bang on 1.6 ton.....that is one heavy Golf.

My van is EA189 2010 140ps and I got the all clear on that (as well as the octy)

 

From reading some of the van forums, mostly caddys have been affected not T5s

 

 

 

It seems to have been a bit of a non-event really, in general.... which must be really irritating for the media

There's a link on the german Skoda website to the following recall website:

http://skoda-recallactions.azurewebsites.net/de-de/?s=W&cd=0

When I enter my FIN number I get the all clear.

My VRS TDI is a EU5 model built in the 4th week of 2015.

 

This would confirm the initial comments that only the EA189 are affected and that the EA288 is the one we got...for now at least, who knows what they will find out in the future. But SKODA is definitely affected as some users with a 1Z (not the E5 as the octy 3) Come up as in need of an update).

HTH

 

Not sure if this checker is correct, you can enter any VIN in it and you get an all clear e.g. try 'abcdefghi12345678'

Thought I'd throw this one into the mix

The uncertainty hanging over VW ultimately hinges on whether or not European politicians decide to make a long-term issue out of it. The lawyers certainly will because there's (spurious) money to be made in settlements rather than long, drawn-out court cases.

Either way, this is a VW scandal, not a Skoda, Seat or Audi scandal. So most of the dirt will be attached to the VW badge, and if there is any customer backlash - surely the decisive factor - that's where it will be.

On that basis, VW has a vested interest in making sure that the likes of Skoda are in the best position to do well while VW remains at risk. Does that mean better deals, better spec, higher values? Discuss...

Check ur VIN number on the official skoda emissions scandal website. Then you will categorically know if your vehicle is affected or not.

At least until the next scandal rears it's head..!

If the VIN checker informs you all is correct with your car why would you waste time questioning it and actively seek to prove your car is affected by the so called emissions scandal.

The website says your car is OK, then forget about it why worry further.

Thought I'd throw this one into the mix

The uncertainty hanging over VW ultimately hinges on whether or not European politicians decide to make a long-term issue out of it. The lawyers certainly will because there's (spurious) money to be made in settlements rather than long, drawn-out court cases.

Either way, this is a VW scandal, not a Skoda, Seat or Audi scandal. So most of the dirt will be attached to the VW badge, and if there is any customer backlash - surely the decisive factor - that's where it will be.

On that basis, VW has a vested interest in making sure that the likes of Skoda are in the best position to do well while VW remains at risk. Does that mean better deals, better spec, higher values? Discuss...

 

I think if potential customers have the integrity to avoid a brand due to this scandal, they will likely be well informed enough to know that this impacts the rest of the group.

 

I reckon all this will accelerate the shift to hybrid or EV.

Entering my VIN into http://skoda-recallactions.skoda-auto.com/en-GB results in:

 

 

 

Dear ŠKODA customer,

We wish to confirm that your vehicle with the Vehicle Identification Number you submitted, is not affected by software that causes discrepancies in the values for oxides of nitrogen (NOx) during dynometer runs.

Yours faithfully,

ŠKODA.

 

 

Mine is a late 2013 vRS TDi collected in December 2013.

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Love how this 'scandal' isn't even news worthy anymore, dissapeared alot quicker than i'd expect.  :D :D

Media frenzy always involves who's blood is in the water. Last week VW, this week Russia. Google 'Bread and circuses'.

Expecting the media to give a balanced and objective view, is like trusting a politician to have your best interest at heart.

So, going by the "official" figures theres only 1bhp/ton difference?

 

I know for a fact the GTE  has more BHP than VW advertise, its actually neaer 225, no idea about the GTD.

 

and its not "supposedly" quicker than a GTI, it actually is quicker, 0-60 time. In the real world that is. Not on paper.

 

Cheers

 

:nerd:

 

Yep I think we can safely say for now at least that an MQB car is safe.

For anyone still interested in the GTD v GTE debarcle (supposedly quicker than GTI....)......Ive done some looking up.

GTD

HP 181
Weight (as a 5 door DSG) 1425kg

Power to weight 129hp/ton

GTE

HP 201
Weight (5 door DSG only)......1599kg....yep you read that right straight from the VW brochure

Power to weight despite 20hp advantage...128hp/ton

Id wager once on the move there is very little to tell them apart.

A manual 5 door has a power to weight of 131hp/ton....the 3 door 134hp/ton......

I knew the GTE was heavy but almost bang on 1.6 ton.....that is one heavy Golf.

So, going by the "official" figures theres only 1bhp/ton difference?

I know for a fact the GTE has more BHP than VW advertise, its actually neaer 225, no idea about the GTD.

and its not "supposedly" quicker than a GTI, it actually is quicker, 0-60 time. In the real world that is. Not on paper.

Cheers

:nerd:

225hp...thats *******s and not fact but its a free world, so feel free to believe what you like.

Lol. I said nearer actually. I'm guessing you've not seen one let alone drove a gte.

Just take Clarkson, or some other "car experts" word eh.

Just get over it man.

Gtd has had its day. Diesels are a dying bread, and will be obsolete soon enough.

Perhaps the whole episode will encourage Skoda to bring a broader spread of petrol models e.g the 1.8Tsi to the UK in the near future.

Here's hoping

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If you can back up with fact that the GTE makes "nearer" 225hp maybe ill believe it...you are mearly speculating.

Ive had a good look round a GTE....its no different from a GTD apart from the e-Golf inspired front end and blue detailing.

Not overly interested in driving one as im stuck with my car for 4 years and I certainly aint going to be buying one.

Practically every respected motoring institution has said the GTE as good as it is isnt as dynamically pleasing as a GTD or GTI...they cant all be wrong. Doesnr make it a bad car, but by making it a hybrid and loading it with 200ish kg of electric motor and batteries its going to compromise it...would do any car.

I also disagree...diesels are far from finished...they are getting forever cleaner and im certainly not letting VAGs mistake of not fitting SCR tech to their early clean diesels in the US alter my opinion of them too much......the press as usual are blowing the whole thing out of proportion and I wager the production of lithium ion cell and the emissions being dumped by petrol cars are killing their fair share of people too...diesel hatings the current buzz...it'll pass.

Still if they turn out to be a dying "bread" as youve described i'll happily eat humble pie.

I bet none of these "respected motoring institutions " never actually tested the 0-60 using the GTE launch control?

Think I'll just go with my real world knowledge, rather than some review.

As I said I've driven both, a couple of colleagues at work also have GTD'S.

I get way better mpg and pay less despite covering the same site to site mileage, pay less a month to lease from same place as them.

Oh free electric and free parking all over the place.:-)

Not disputing they arent quick off the mark....turbo augmented longer powerband, electric instant torque, DSG and likely shortened gearing to overcome some of its heft....6.3 secs is bloody impressive...ive seen the automann vid.

But that does only tell part of the story.....the car still has a GTDesque power to weight ratio..so the reality is it isnt going to be leagues faster real world (happily disagree on this)....the cars handling is hampered by the extra weight and its MPG potential can only be realised if you have regular journeys with which you can exploit its not particularly wonderful all electric range.....then youve got to be able to keep it charged up which for some just isnt feasible (if you live in a flat or have to park on-street for example).

You probably think I am knocking it...I really am not....I dont love diesels....I have one because it was the best performance/economy compromise open to me as a company car choice but given free choice I wouldnt necessarily buy one. You are however coming across pretty anti-diesel so think your viewpoints is perhaps tainted and coming across v hybrid-centric.....hybrids are good but they are a compromise just like the GTE is over a GTI and they wont work for everyone. It also still burns its fair share of petrol if in GTE mode and then really cant be anything like as clean as its test CO2 or NOx figures which are probably calculated making as little use of the engine as possible.

I do in excess of 30k miles a year...nearly all on motorways and I wouldnt get the oportunity or even the facilities to keep a GTE charged up whilst away for work....so it wouldnt work for me other than reducing my tax by some margin.

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Anyway I digress an awful lot chaps sorry....shall we perhaps rename this thread "GTE v GTD...who actually duckin' cares" or now go back on-topic ;-)

Edited by pipsypreturns

Anyway I digress an awful lot chaps sorry....shall we perhaps rename this thread "GTE v GTD...who actually duckin' cares" or now go back on-topic ;-)

Perhaps get a GTDE :D

An electro diesel, instead of electro petrol.

That way you keep the good fuel consumption when you run of of electrikity.

The uncertainty hanging over VW ultimately hinges on whether or not European politicians decide to make a long-term issue out of it. The lawyers certainly will because there's (spurious) money to be made in settlements rather than long, drawn-out court cases.

 

 

Of course politicians will make an issue out of it. It's blatant lies on a massive scale. Lies to consumers and governments all for a multimillion pound company to try to save a few quid. The incredible thing is that they thought they'd get away with such greed and lies.

 

As for residuals, it's hard to see how they can be affected much more. Half way through a PCP and mine is already worth £3k less than the minimum future value. No way I'll be keeping mine. I think that the damage to the reputation will be massive though which in turn may lead to bigger promotions which always affect residuals.

I think I'm even further away from ever buying a car again outright. Lease/PCP from now on, just like my current car.

Perhaps get a GTDE :D

An electro diesel, instead of electro petrol.

That way you keep the good fuel consumption when you run of of electrikity.

I think petrol is preferred within hybrid-EV's. It keeps the bucket-of-bolts startup noise down, removes the need for frequent load on glow-plugs, provides for quicker engine warn-up, and doesn't carry the dirty image of diesel. Yes, petrol is far less efficient than diesel but it is cleaner and easier to live with. Why spoil the near silence and non-existent emissions of an EV by adding an oil-burner to the mix? Petrol-hybrids are only a stop-gap until full-EV's obtain competitive range and performance. These are perhaps 10-20 years away,   

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