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Current tyre size 225/45/17 on 7J wheels. what can I fit that are a little narrower and possibly 50 instead of 45 without affecting the 4x4 system.  On the new SEL 4x4 it now is available with 16" as standard wheels, do they alter anyting to accomodate the smaller wheels or just put on taller tyres.

The 16" tyre for the Octavia is 205/55 R16 I think (6J approved with snow chains) and 6.5J (not with snow chains).

Providing the rolling radius is the same as the 17" (or <1% difference) I don't think there will be any differences/changes in the 4x4 system.

 

Its what I would have fitted if the 16" would have fitted my vRS.

I have 205/55/16 for wintertyres on my 4x4.

And they were provided by the dealer.

I have 205/55/16 for wintertyres on my 4x4.

And they were provided by the dealer.

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Thanks for that, but are your wheel sizes 7J or 6J in width. Mine are 7J 17" wheels and Skoda would not change to 16" at the time as the order had been made.

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I have 205/50R17 winter tyres on mine 7x17 Terons. These rims came with the car at delivery, and I had the summer tyres moved to another Skoda rims (Blossom black).

As long as all 4 are similar dimension (rolling circumference) the 4x4 system isn't affected.

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Hi Fatzy, My tyre dealership is not happy about putting 205's on 7J wheels they say that it stretches the tyre too much.  If fitted how much will that affect the speedo.

Hi Fatzy, My tyre dealership is not happy about putting 205's on 7J wheels they say that it stretches the tyre too much.

 

Really?

 

I have run 205/55/16” winter tyres on 3 sets of 7” wheels now... the tyres certainly are NOT stretched!

 

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7” = 177.8mm and a 205 tyre is ... well 205mm, so 27mm WIDER than the rim

Hi Fatzy, My tyre dealership is not happy about putting 205's on 7J wheels they say that it stretches the tyre too much.  If fitted how much will that affect the speedo.

Hi Channel. According to STRO (Scandinavian Tyre and Rim Organization), my reference, a 205/50R17 can be fitted on rims between 5.5 and 7.5 inch wide. So I would not be worried to use a 7 inch rim, mine isn't stretched. I don't have a good picture of mine, perhaps if you look into my gallery.

The circumference is 1934 vs 1946 millimeters and the speedo will be affected by 0.65%, next to nothing. So these rubbers are perfect if you want slighly narrower winter tyres.

Hi Fatzy, My tyre dealership is not happy about putting 205's on 7J wheels they say that it stretches the tyre too much.  If fitted how much will that affect the speedo.

205 on a 7" wheel will not be a problem in practice, I've run a car on that size combination for nearly 10 years with no problem but it came out of the factory like that. 

 

The problem is that there is a fairly short list of tyre and wheel combinations listed by Skoda for each model of car if you want to remain fireproof you need to stick as close to them. Most dealers would be reluctant to deviate too much from the approved size list I would imagine.

 

My question would be what is wrong with 225/45/17 winter tyres??

 

At the moment they are cheaper than 205/50/17 on most websites and the advice to put thinner tyres on in the winter really depends on what you are expecting. Continental even suggest putting wider winter tyres on! If you are running snow tyres expecting knee deep snow maybe, but for normal winter tyres I would say 20mm will not be a factor either way.

 

It will depend on whether you want to put them on your existing wheels or get some winter rims. If you get rims you should be good with 205/55/16 on a 6.5". what you will save on tyres going to 16" will go some way to the cost of rims.

 

I would first check what sizes are listed for your particular engine and then you can go from there

Re 205's on 7J x 17 rims.

that is the Standard fit on Fabia mk2 vRS / Monte Carlos.  

while the Polo GTI / Seat Ibiza Cupra, FR or A1 got 215's on 7J x 17's

 

Some Mk7 Golfs get 225/45 R17s on 7J x17" Alloys.

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So it looks like 225/45/17 in winter format.  The choice would seem to be either Nokian WR D3 which according to some tests is not that good in the wet, the Continental TS850 or the Goodyear Ultra Grip Gen-1 which has just won the Auto Express 2016/2016 winter tyre test.  Thge Nokian was third and the Continental fourth.  There is a new Nokian out called the WR D4 which is the first tyre to be awarded an A for wet grip but I have not seen any independant test regarding snow ability but as it is Finnish, they ought to know something.  Skoda themselves do not recommend anything other than 225/45 tyres on 7J wheels but are happy if the speed symbol is lower than the summer tyres which on mine is W.

Having three sets of Contis about to go on various machines for the winter you may be able to guess where my vote would go. I have had these since the previous generation TS830 and they have proved their worth to me beyond question.

 

Nokian are undoubtedly good tyres, have a big following and winter/snow tyres are their speciality (unsurprising for where they are based!) I would like to try a set but when it comes time for a new set I cant bring myself to move from the Contis. The Contis tend to do best in braking and that is where I need it

 

As to which one will depend on what you are getting them for. There are winter tyres and snow tyres and all shades in between. You can see by the tread what they are best at. The ones that have large groves and aggressive tread are more for the snow, the finer ones with more stypes are better for winter road use

 

In the majority of the UK I would say a "snow" tyre is overkill and will compromise the rest of the winter where you are driving on cold tarmac. Normal winters will give you on-road performance similar to summers, just maintain it below 10 degrees but also have 95% of the performance in snow as snow tyres. All will leave summers for dead in any conditions approaching 0 degrees (even as high as 5-10 degrees tyre depending)

 

Made that mistake with a set of Bridgestones a while back. Great for the days it snowed, useless for every other day of the winter.

 

As far as the speed rating goes it was done to death in another thread but suffices to say mine is listed as W or Y for summer tyres but V rated for winter tyres (but ratings above V don't really exist in winters anyway) so that is what I fitted, they were the same price as the H at the time anyway and not generally more than a couple of quid different.

 

 

Some Mk7 Golfs get 225/45 R17s on 7J x17" Alloys.

 

GT spec...................

 

 

I know I have two sets...............

I only knew that from the last thread on it in the Yeti section or where ever and your posts.

Then checking the spec of Golf wheels / tyres available in the brochure.

What about the New Michelin Cross Climate

Signed off for Winter in the Alps

And fully tested by TUV Sud

And the write ups/reviews look good

I am seriously looking at​ a set for my front wheel drive Octavia MKIII Estate – you have to fit as a full

http://www.michelin.co.uk/tyres/michelin-crossclimate

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/news/miscellaneous/2015-02/michelin-crossclimate-tyres/

6nations, I have a set a set of 225/50/17 on my 2010 scout and they are great in dry and wet, so bring in the snow!!!!

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