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repair for £1500 or replace 2005 Skoda Octavia II

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I wouldn't worry about changing from a DMF. The current one has lasted ten years, so assume you'll get a similar life from the replacement, by which time the car will be dead.

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sorry Dr Zoidberg do you mean not to worry about changing from dmf to smf or just fitting dmf again?

sorry Dr Zoidberg do you mean not to worry about changing from dmf to smf or just fitting dmf again?

 

I'd stick with a DMF as originally fitted.

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Having almost decided to fit the smf the garage (and I guess it makes no difference to them - the labour would be negligible?) say they have had problems with higher mileage vehicles and the crank shaft.  What to do?  They are getting back to me with another quote but bearing in mind I reckon we would get a new car in 5 years anyway (part guaranteed for two years) I may listen to them.

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Ordered the single.  The garage said they'd fitted more than 40 with no returns in the last 5 years and it's £150 cheaper.  Slightly concerned about crank shaft issues having 100K on the clock but....it's not like I'm doing major mileage annually.  At all.

If anyone wants to hold my hand and tell me it's going to be fine feel free!

Thanks for listening.

If I could fit an SMF on my DSG I would! Only choice is DMF for me.

Hope you get it all sorted and back on the road soon.

they have had problems with higher mileage vehicles and the crank shaft.  What to do? 

I hightlighted the key words - high mileage cars. Do you really think that less than 100k (no matter, kilometers or miles) is a high mileage? Actually it isn't. My car is ~160k km right now (~100k in miles) but the crankshaft is the thing I worry the least about. These cars are designed for 300k-400k km and many drive even 600k or so and usually they die because of other reasons - rust everywhere, everything is worn etc. Sure, there are always cases when something breaks after 10k or 20k or at 100k but would you change everything that is good right now but would die once?

Anyway, crankshaft change might be an expensive repair...

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Cheers.  Fingers crossed.  It will be a Valeo kit and I presume they will be fitting the appropriate clutch?  I am completely paranoid aren't I?

Thanks for the reassurance.  By the way Mike, the Skoda dealer quoted £800 just for the new clutch alone and reckoned the dmf would be another £400.  If my timer belt wasn't hanging at an odd angle I would travel north to do this but I just don't have time or luxury to do that.  I have assimilated the price and seeing as it is the first time anything has gone wrong in 5 years I can swallow it this once.

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by the way it is a TDI engine not PD..

by the way it is a TDI engine not PD..

 

PD is a type of TDI engine. It means Pumpe Duse (Unit Injector) and refers to the way the injectors incorporate high pressure fuel pumps driven from the camshaft.

 

This is why correct oil and service intervals are so important on these engines as the camshaft is prone to wear if not looked after due to it driving the injectors.

 

Phil

It's a TDI PD engine :)

 

The Valeo kit comes with the appropriate clutch for the flywheel.

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told you I wasn't techy.  I am going to sleep well tonight thanks!

1500 is cheaper than a new car plus even if you do sell it on its a good selling point. Plus that engine is very durable.

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I wonder if the quoted price includes a timing belt change as the aux belt are known to take the cambelt out as well if they go, hence £1.5kk??

How can the aux belt, which is outboard of the timing belt, damage the timing belt?

 

Unless it breaks the timing belt enclosure in the process, of course.

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It can end up getting wrapped round the pulley and pulled under the cover. Heard it happen a few times which is why the general advice seems to be to renew the aux belt regularly rather then the VAG recommendation of just inspecting and replacing if necessary. For the sake of £10 it's a no brainer.

the skoda technician who did my cambelt change advised me to change my aux belt as well as it only cost £10 extra

I had a Valeo kit fitted approx 8k ago, on my 1.9 TDi. As others have said on this forum, the single mass flywheel and clutch transforms the way the car drives. It is so smooth straight from tickover and doesn't produce the rattles and drones I used to get from the DMF when pulling in the 1200 1400 revs range.

Keep the car, you know it's history, the engines good for at least 200k I am told.

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So I should say that I just picked it up having had the smf in and was pessimistically anticipating the subtlety of a transit but it is like I got handed back a new car.  The clutch is like putting a knife through butter.  So much lighter and really, really creamy. There is pretty much nil vibration in the car and it is running/sounding beautiful.  I feel like the turbo is less noticeable kicking in but I wonder if that is just thanks to the work I had done.  No regrets so far  - it feels better than it ever did.  Thanks so much for all the advice and hand holding - fingers crossed it lasts a few more years.

Well, SMF should be eternal :)

Very pleased to hear that. Sounds like you made the right choice then.

 

With regards to the turbo I wonder if it's just that it feels smoother overall and therefore not as noticeable?

 

Coming from a PD130 where as soon as the turbo kicked in the tyres just spun to the PD105 it's isn't quite as savage as the boost comes in but should still give a nice kick. Mine still surprises me sometimes when I get my foot down as to how quickly it can get moving... mostly because the DSG kicks down and it's off like s stabbed rat!

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