shes a 2011 facelift VRS, car in my head is driving like new. She's in great nick.

 

But I have been tempted for long time to remap it. Ive been told by a tuner he could get it to 200/205bhp. which from what i see is a reasonable figure for a standard vrs.

 

My probs is the high miles of the car.

 

Any advice?

 

(I dont drive like an idiot, I drive normal most of the time with the odd time of horsing her on just to get the cobwebs out or if I want to overtake quickly . )

Personally I wouldn't be concerned with remapping a high mileage TDI, I'm planning on getting my PD 105 remapped fairly soon and that's just crossed the 190k mile mark!

I would. Be more concerned about the clutch. Been a few people with vag diesels having to replace very soon after remaps.

check cylinder pressure it should be 19-32bars

 

replace oil every 8k km

 

wait for clutch replacement

 

miles doesn't matter. my car has got 170k km and it is remapped but I use Hajes Racing technologies and know-how.

I've had 5 cars remapped over the years, only 2 had problems

 

80,000 mile Audi A4 2.0TDI140 - Clutch started slipping

125,000 mile Bora 1.9TDI150 - Turbo blew, vanes got injested by the engine, cylinder to valve strike and a £2000 bill.

 

Personally I wouldn't remap anything over 60,000 miles.

Just mapped mine at 90k and i aint worried,think my clutch has seen better days though

At 125k if it hasnt yet had a clutch then id factor in replacing it very soon after the remap,mine is on 70k & i wouldnt get mine remapped until ive replaced the clutch & upgraded the suspension & brakes as i personally think a standard vrs is ok but when you start remapping them they need better suspension & a brake upgrade to cope with the extra power & torque as standard stuff isnt enough....this is just my opionion though.

At 125k if it hasnt yet had a clutch then id factor in replacing it very soon after the remap,mine is on 70k & i wouldnt get mine remapped until ive replaced the clutch & upgraded the suspension & brakes as i personally think a standard vrs is ok but when you start remapping them they need better suspension & a brake upgrade to cope with the extra power & torque as standard stuff isnt enough....this is just my opionion though.

I think the stage 1 is fine on standard brakes and suspension, it's not crazy fast and still stops pretty well. Maybe the brakes would suffer if you thrash it everywhere, but I don't.

I've just done mine on 95k and the clutch is absolutely fine at the moment. It's in the back of my mind that it might need doing soon ish but I'll worry about it when it happens.

It wouldn't put me off doing it at a higher mileage. I'd just make sure there is a slush fund available for any possible issues that come up!

Enjoy the remap!

At 125k if it hasnt yet had a clutch then id factor in replacing it very soon after the remap,mine is on 70k & i wouldnt get mine remapped until ive replaced the clutch & upgraded the suspension & brakes as i personally think a standard vrs is ok but when you start remapping them they need better suspension & a brake upgrade to cope with the extra power & torque as standard stuff isnt enough....this is just my opionion though.

exactly mine and motorsport philosophy ;-) boy, how many "tuners" have I heard saying "it is great on straights but rubbish in corners"

 

if we consider eu-standard tuner with poor car balancing skills and absolutely no sense of tyre slip angle...it is obvious - every factory car is customised for comfort. What do you expect with remap.

 

My slightly modified Octavia HR I was rubbish with 140HP and it become nightmare at 190HP. Rear anti-roll bar helped a lot but car makes funny noise at limits. If I switch off all assistants, I'm on limits of chassis. All is sliding, spinning.

Of course it is all about your driving style. If you like highway chasing, than doesn't matter what you have. If you like Colin McRae style in mountains, then you're heading for disappointment.

 

LSD, Powerflex, Eibach/Bilstein would sort out this problem but this upgrade would cost me same as the whole car :-D

Edited 17 February, 201610 yr by sniper29a

People talk about suspension upgrades like there driving on brands hatch every day. End of the day it's ur car. Most people don't take roundabouts thinking there Lewis Hamilton.

I dont drive like that,however i feel that the standard suspension on my vrs is ok in standard form in everyday driving but should i chose to "push on" a bit then i feel that the standard suspension is not up to the job,whats the point in me spending £400-£500 on a remap only to find i cant enjoy it as it would feel like im pushing the standard car beyond its limits hence why i said id personally upgrade my suspension on my vrs before a remap so the car would be a much better car in general,in comparison my old Nissan Primera GT was one of the best handling standard cars ive ever owned & i would have happily remapped that in standard form.

I have had all of my cars and most of my families cars remapped over the years and never had a problem. Many of them were remapped at 100K+ miles. just do it but dont go silly.

I agree with Mikey VRS. Exactly my philosophy.

 

What is point of remap if you can't push it hard. And if you can't push hard enough in factory tune, then you don't need remap at all.

 

Decent remap cost 300€ and the best one from man who makes calibration data for Skoda cost 600€ in Czech Republic. In UK it might be double or triple price. For example brakes would be more reasonable upgrade...brakes are rubbish on standard car.

 

If you are consistent driver, you may get better fuel consumption. Filled gap in middle rev range. Clutch failure is imminent.

 

It is all old wives stories - it is all about owner. If you cannot take care of your car, it will break anyway. Follow these costly experiments and you car would last one million kilometres even if pushed over limits of factory tune.

 

I used to have 6.5l/100km before remap. Once, I have removed burning already burnt fuel (EGR) and engine finally started to combust effectively. I have got 7.1+l/100 but it is rocket ship now. I am unable to drive slowly so you may get usual 0.5l per 100km lower as old wives stories tell.

Slight thread hijack, but I'm constantly toying with the idea of a s1 remap for my petrol octavia vrs.  

 

Things that cross my mind:

 

1) Economy.  How much will it affect my MPG when the majority are short urban hops, to and from work, currently averaging me ~26mpg.  I'm led to believe remaps are more economical on such drives, but obviously demand more fuel when you boot it...

 

2) Performance. How noticeable are the gains from standard to stage 1?

 

3) Wear and tear. My car is currently on 68k, so it isn't a young'n anymore.  It has already had engine work done when the chain tensioner failed ~22k miles ago. The car has no warranty, so if anything goes, I'm looking at big bills. Do remaps add a huge amount of extra load that would noticeably increase wear and failure rates? I realise this would obviously depend entirely on the car itself, but as a general guide, is it something to consider?

 

4) Resale.  Do cars sold with remaps lose much value? I bought my car 1 year ago for £6'900, so I'd be hoping to lose as little as possible when I do come to sell.  Realistically, this will be in 2-3 years, so I'd be hoping to get £4k minimum then.

Slight thread hijack, but I'm constantly toying with the idea of a s1 remap for my petrol octavia vrs.  

 

Things that cross my mind:

 

1) Economy.  How much will it affect my MPG when the majority are short urban hops, to and from work, currently averaging me ~26mpg.  I'm led to believe remaps are more economical on such drives, but obviously demand more fuel when you boot it...

 

2) Performance. How noticeable are the gains from standard to stage 1?

 

3) Wear and tear. My car is currently on 68k, so it isn't a young'n anymore.  It has already had engine work done when the chain tensioner failed ~22k miles ago. The car has no warranty, so if anything goes, I'm looking at big bills. Do remaps add a huge amount of extra load that would noticeably increase wear and failure rates? I realise this would obviously depend entirely on the car itself, but as a general guide, is it something to consider?

 

4) Resale.  Do cars sold with remaps lose much value? I bought my car 1 year ago for £6'900, so I'd be hoping to lose as little as possible when I do come to sell.  Realistically, this will be in 2-3 years, so I'd be hoping to get £4k minimum then.

 

1) if you can tame yourself, you may actually get better economy. I didn't see much guys to get better economy because once you release beast it is hard to drive like family lost on shopping trip ;-)

 

2) on my Skoda Octavia HR I - it was noticeable. Improved mid-range revs performance. Dead in high-revs as usual (bigger injectors necessary).

 

3) clutch is usually the first to die. OEM clutch is designed for about 400Nm and gearbox for 500Nm. My car went from 320 to over 420Nm but I'm not idiot who believe car will drive fast at idle revs :-D Turbo has lower lag at around 2500-3500. Torque is lower at those revs. Expect turbo die first as my friend from Garrett says...we push design to the max, manufacturers don't want room for improvement. 10% remap is a half life span of turbo if you know how to look after your car.

 

4) I usually scrap cars :-D If you buy a car with finally warmed-up engine at around 160k km...then you run it for a while...in 2-3 years my cars have 60k more and nobody wants such a "wreck" 300k km on ODO. For some reason people are scared off from high mileage cars. But then they tell you "why the hell your cars runs better than my new car." Paradox ha?