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Why would you search for 98 ron, none is sold in the UK, just 97 min or 99 ron min.  and the car runs just fine on 95 ron Unleaded just like your 1.4tsi SEAT does 

& after all the NSL is half what the car can do. So just driving along singing the song using 95 ron.

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6 minutes ago, skidpan said:

 

Don't have a manual, have a brochure. Superb 1.4 TSi 150 PS arrives next Wednesday to replace the Leon 1.4 TSI 140 PS have have owned and run for almost 4 years on 95 RON petrol.

 

If the fuel flap says 98 RON then I will have to search our some fuel but if as expected (reading the brochure) its 95 RON then its business as usual.

 

The Skoda manual says that "Min 95 RON" means that you can use 95 RON without harming the engine [nb: this is EU law for all petrol vehicles], but that it will return better economy and produce more power on higher octane fuels". I have also written to Skoda for clarification and recently posted their reply in another thread, which confirmed the same. Whether you choose to use it or not is one thing, but one simply cannot argue that there is benefit to higher octane when it's what the OEM categorically states.

From the handbook:

 

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Look as for diesel i drive a van allday yes its diesel and i never use supermarket diesel but thats it this van i have at the moment has done 230k miles with no engine issues  had it from new so yes i will use normal diesel in my car not from any supermarket only branded shell,jet,esso ect 

I have had vans that had to be filled up at morrisons they all needed fuel filters every 10k due to moisture breaking them down si it was found to not be cost effective to carry on fuelling up there since using branded fuel i have not had any problems  my 115 bhp transit flies and suprises allot of flash motors on the back roads of the north east  especially  merc and bmw drivers they dont like getting whooped by an old 59 plate tranny van ........lmao:tongueout:

Edited by Windscreenman

I have a 2016 2.0TDI 150ps SCR and it is loving supermarket filling station DERV.

As all my previously basic diesels have including Transits fueled from well used filling stations without much H20 in their Stations Tanks.

If they do have tanks that have condensation / H20 that is as bad as to affect customers vehicles then there is something far wrong with Morrisons.

 

As to the Majors Branded fuel that is being delivered and stored it is very odd if it is less hygroscopic during winter than Super Market Deliveries or when the Summer formulation arrives next month.

 

PS.

ESSO filling station fuel in much of the UK is delivered and supplied by GREENERGY that supplies and delivers to TESCO and others.

http://greenergy.com/uk/independent

 

Edited by Awayoffski

3 minutes ago, Awayoffski said:

I have a 2016 2.0TDI 150ps SCR and it is loving supermarket filling station DERV.

As all my previously basic diesels have including Transits fueled from well used filling stations without much H20 in their Stations Tanks.

If they do have tanks that have condensation / H20 that is as bad as to affect customers vehicles then there is something far wrong with Morrisons.

 

As to the Majors Branded fuel that is being delivered and stored it is very odd if it is less hygroscopic during winter than Super Market Deliveries or when the Summer formulation arrives next month.

Im talking 10+ yrs ago but it was an expensive route as we were using genuine ford filters had to change approximately every 10 weeks  if i remember rightly it was around the time we had the fuel shortages 

Once bitten twice shy and all that !!:blink:

Memories.  Those good old days before Euro 4 or Euro 5 emissions, DPF's or Catalytic Converters, no Ad-blue and all that nonsense.

 

I dream of the good old days and leaded fuel and 2 shots.  

Or oil changes every 3,000 miles then 6,000 miles as technology improved.  Funnily fuel consumption was better then even in DERVs.

3 hours ago, skidpan said:

Pointless continuing.

 

If I drove to the red line on every trip I would only be wasting fuel and getting Argos points by the dozen.

 

You drive how you want, I will drive how I want as well.

 

Main difference is I have a cabinet full of trophies from my racing days and bar room talk does not win those. And I used 95 RON petrol.

 

Lol !

2 hours ago, Awayoffski said:

Will you fill with Diesel or Premium Diesel though, and do you benefit in any way with more efficient running with a higher cetane and possibly detergents.

Just a quickie have you seen the price of super derv at esso 136 a litre  i think i will stick to normal derv and use super unleaded in my fazer 1000  as it only costs £22 to fill she purs like a kitty kat and flies like the wind  and avarages 46 mpg ish on super i always run my bikes on higher octane fuel they start better ,smoother ,faster, more efficient :D:D

Years ago when first available i used to buy my Super Unleaded for bikes in February to get the Winter Spec and keep it for using on Special days in the summer.

Now i like 102 ron Hyperflo 250 for high days and holidays.

Edited by Awayoffski

I used to put Leaded Petrol in my old Mini, and wrap the alternator and leads in a rubber glove with the tips of the fingers cut off and cable tied to stop it getting damp in the winter. And a tune up consisted of turning a screw on some carbs I got off an MG, only needing a flat screwdriver and a good ear.

Local Jet garage was overpriced and not used by most people, so fuel was always bad, somethings don't change.

My 280 certainty runs sweetest on Tesco99. When I can't find it and run on 95 the difference is noticeable.

  • 1 year later...

I realise this is an old thread, but just to reiterate Rainmakers point that the Skoda owners manual (2017/11) does indeed state clearly that if the fuel cover flap states min 95 RON then

 

On vehicles using prescribed petrol of  min. 95  RON, the use of petrol with a higher octane number than  95  RON can increase the power and reduce fuel consumption.

 

This is what my 1.4tsi has on the flap.

And it suggests to me that the 1.4tsi ECU does adapt to higher octane, after all it has variable valve timing capability as well as the obligatory knock sensor which is probably all that's required to take advantage.

 

Again Rainmaker is correct (and Skidpan missing his point) that because higher octane fuel burns slower and is more knock resistant, this can be used to advantage at lower rpm, provided the ECU adjusts parameters accordingly.

 

One last point, I would advise against the use of Miller's ECOmax petrol additive. As a long time fan of their diesel additive, I used this petrol additive for a considerable time on one of our 1.2tsi engines and was alarmed to find the plugs caked in a bright red hard ceramic type substance. Although Millers deny it, I  suspect the additive may contain MMT

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylcyclopentadienyl_manganese_tricarbonyl

 

If it is, it could damage your engine and block your catalytic converter.

 

Skoda warn

 

The following additives and auxiliary products may not be used - there is a risk of engine damage or damage to the exhaust system!

■ Additives with metal components (metallic additives), in particular with manganese and iron content.

 

Some pictures here of MMT damage

 

Whether the power or fuel economy benefits of using higher octane fuel are worthwhile is an unknown quantity.

 

Edited by xman

After 16 months our 1.4 TSi 150 PS is still going well on an almost exclusive diet of Asda and Tesco 95 RON. I say almost exclusively, when on holiday (3 times) we have had to fill up with BP 95 RON because its the only garage for miles, the nearest Tesco is a  mile round trip. Using BP makes the car no different at all, car runs perfectly all the time.

 

As for MPG the calculated so far its averaged about 46 mpg in mixed use. Late May we did a 1000 mile road trip and it averaged 56 mpg calculated. Did not drive for economy, average speed there and back was approx 63 mph. It could have been higher but we hit the late May monsoon about 100 miles from home and the roads had some standing water, and as well all know that creates drag and does not boost your mpg.

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