19 minutes ago, Offski said:

What is the story then in Australia,  fuel prices, tax etc. 

Is the government going to make it worth while buying and using EV's?  What is happening with the purchase price of them, and charging costs etc?

Sheesh! 

We have only just managed to panic over energy insecurity due to our hopelessly divided government allowing exports of gas without a domestic supply guarantee in place.

Wedging the opposition by suggesting that taking ‘warming’ seriously equates to higher taxation is just another depressing situation we find ourselves in.

Rational policy making for long term business planning?

Forget it !

 

(In Oz the private sector wants a government with vision and a spine only when it suits, it seems)

Tesla’s oily bits after 1M -

https://electrek.co/2018/10/15/tesla-drive-after-million-miles-test/

Hard to believe lack of car building experience and unnecessary complexity -

http://www.autonews.com/article/20181017/OEM05/181019639/tearing-down-a-model-3-profit-potential-huge-but-this-body-is-their?cciid=email-autonews-daily

Maybe soon we can see what DYSON can build with 'All the new gear' and employees and a boss with more than an idea and lots of technical knowledge between the ears.

 

As for all the Experience of established manufactures and engineers in the Motor Manufacturing industry, 

they keep turning out the occasional lemon and failing vehicles with poorly manufactured parts and are doing recalls , service campaigns or are under investigation.

 

Decades and over a century of vehicle manufacturing and still established companies sell unreliable vehicles with short life expectancy and high pollution.

Dyson, guaranteed to suck.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/secret-tech-behind-tesla-model-3

 

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The discs themselves have been designed to last for the life of the car (about 150,000 miles), which is possible because the Model 3’s regenerative braking system reduces how much the conventional brakes are used. Rust could be an issue over that time, so engineers developed new anti-corrosion techniques. Such attention to detail is indicative of the development team’s ‘more and’ mantra: if an improvement is made in one area, whether for performance or cost reasons, Tesla’s team commits to making another improvement elsewhere. 

Nice! Great to see Tesla are not just buying COTS parts and sticking them on without second thought.

 

Meanwhile the disks on my Leaf are rusting away, I have to do brake scrubbing (in a quiet road, drive up to 30mph, put it into N and hit the brakes) everyday to keep it at bay.

 

 

Advancing through Motorsport is OK, and trickle down to road cars, 

but why do TESLA or others keep bothering with 155 mph even for tyre development since that is a tiny market with the countries allowing high speed roads and the need for high speed passenger cars.

Reliable and economic and safe transport should be the priority surely, and discussions with governments on what speed limits they wants cars travelling at,

 

If there are Continental countries allowing high speed travelling on public roads then fair enough if buyers are going to have to pay a premium on those vehicles 

but getting cars for the masses that can travel long distances at a decent pace in comfort and legally surely should be the aim of Governments and New World Order IT megamaniacs.

Edited 18 October, 20187 yr by Offski

4 minutes ago, Offski said:

Advancing through Motorsport is OK, and trickle down to road cars, 

but why do TESLA or others keep bothering with 155 mph even for tyre development since that is a tiny market with the countries allowing high speed roads and the need for high speed passenger cars.

Reliable and economic and safe transport should be the priority surely, and discussions with governments on what speed limits they wants cars travelling at,

 

If there are Continental countries allowing high speed travelling on public roads then fair enough if buyers are going to have to pay a premium on those vehicles 

but getting cars for the masses that cab travel long distances at a decent pace in comfort and legally surely should be the aim of Governments and New World Order IT megamaniacs.

Because those figures keep selling cars to men with dreams of having a super fast and amazing car but soon to be put down to earth while being stuck in queue of traffic and after one 1 year of use with children kicking their seat when the glamour of a new wears off,  and so the economy rolls on.

 

It's all great and all over engineering cars but I don't think people want cars anymore that will last 20 years, anyone who buys a Tesla will surely be changing after 3/4 years when the PCP is due to renew.

Edited 18 October, 20187 yr by TonyTonic

Wake me up when there is a Tesla dealer in my area where I can test drive one.

 

I'll set my alarm to 2022, the year, not the time. Might still be too early or maybe they wont be around then. Suppose then I'll have to go to Dixons/PC world to test the Dyson.

 

Never mind, I can always look forward to catching the hyperloop to London.

https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/richard-branson-high-speed-trains-virgin-rail-uk-hyperloop-fast-a8373246.html

 

It does not help you live in ****sville with no TESLA dealers near.  Tesla Dealers have Demonstrators and used cars and happily lend them IME, 

just they can not have what many want to buy then and there of cars with waiting lists.'

 

Borrowing a TESLA to try in Scotland is easy and Scotland is not in or near London.

Re the Economies rolling on with car manufacturers globally, and Ev's.

Time will tell who has invested in mining for Cobalt and other minerals and who has not, and has TESLA.

 

Which countries that have Cobalt to be mined are going to be sure their economies are the ones that prosper.

I imagine Norway has that well sorted. No point investing more in mining until the product really is worth as much as it can be.

I suspect Australian nickel mines will dominate supply once demand justifies extraction and and further searching.

Its always the bottom line in Australia that determines policy.

There's now a $45k mid-range RWD Model 3.

 

This would be ideal for UK: £39,500 mid-range Model 3 with premium interior add paint option.

Then buy EAP after the car has been delivered to avoid £40k luxury car tax.

I'd like the midnight silver with aero wheels please.

An icy cambered road with max torque from zero revs...........the stability control would be working overtime.

Australia will dig for the world and the European Car makers will get batteries from the factories getting the investment in Hungary.

After all Putin / Russia are investing billions in Nuclear Power Stations in Hungary, and Hungary has the Gas and Oil pass through it that Europe uses.

No wonder Audi / VW Group, BMW, Suzuki and others are building cars there.

'What is the worst that can happen?'  No wonder Hungary's leader can stick a middle finger up the rest of the EU every day.

Australian Mines shares surge on cobalt deal with SK Innovation _ Reuters.mhtml

Love Offski and his crystal balls....

Common sense, which nations & countries have the minerals and control of them, and which have the Nuclear Power Plants or Build them & can control them?

Who has the IT and control of IT Globally?

The Answer to this is not The Super Power the United States of America or EU Countries.

They are into Coal & Drilling or Fracking for Oil & Gas and controlling Oil & Gas supplies.  A bit of renewables for the Climate change, but that is not the North Americans way.

Edited 19 October, 20187 yr by Offski

If you say so, I couldn't possibly comment....

 

Edited 19 October, 20187 yr by xman

On 19/10/2018 at 08:03, Ryeman said:

An icy cambered road with max torque from zero revs...........the stability control would be working overtime.

  the main advantage to a Tesla   which is never hardly mentioned is torque and it's control along with the traction it gives, I understand it is possible to do donuts under the worst conditions with a brave driver but at two tons not something I would be crazy enough to do unless it was someone else's  

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/tesla-removes-‘full-self-driving-capability’-options-list

 

Apparently more bits glued and riveted results in greater crash safety -

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1119508_tesla-model-3-teardown-underscores-missed-opportunities

 

positively gravity defying 

A Tesla short now long  -

https://electrek.co/2018/10/23/tesla-tsla-short-change-of-heart-earnings-duh/

Tesla plans for Europe -

http://europe.autonews.com/article/20181025/ANE/181029841/tesla-targets-vw-bmw-as-model-3-heads-for-europe?cciid=email-ane-daily

https://insideevs.com/tesla-model-3-rhd-england-australia-mid-2019/

 

Tesla Model 3 Coming To England And Australia Mid 2019, in Tesla time.