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  • With 22 pages of thread to read through, I must confess I haven’t bothered BUT have actually now had a test drive of a Model 3 and thought I’d share the impressions here.   As a background,

  • I got quite angry about the luxury car tax thing yesterday morning and cancelled. If they can bring a version in under that 40k threshold I might jump back in. Keeping an eye on the VW ID too.

  • Autopilot saves the day - https://electrek.co/2018/07/28/tesla-model-3-autopilot-avoid-crash-nearmiss-dashcam/

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When an old established industry is subjected to a new disruptive entry the only truth is the money flow.   Elon Musk’s financiers are gambling on his vision being representative of the future.    Articles undermining that vision can be expected from supporters of the established players such as the oil industry revenue collectors and the dealerships etc.   I would also expect pension fund managers need to be influenced by scare stories and ‘who’s side are you on ‘.

Musk is like Branson, unlikely to go away.

20 hours ago, vrskeith said:

Were you Trumping me?

 

 

 

noB)--  just the usual lazy----he said,  she said--- journalism from The Times  et-al   who had read something from one of(can't find it now) articles by the hoo-ha yanky "press", based on some ex employees ,  (isn't it always?)  there is an extensive reply from the company,     but it prob'ly had the desired effect of trying to help the shorters who have recently lost an estimated  $1.4 billion (don't quote me) and still don't seem to have learned their lesson  --most likely it was investors money  -they just collect the commission/dealing fees  so that's OK then:blink:

17 hours ago, Ryeman said:

When an old established industry is subjected to a new disruptive entry the only truth is the money flow.   Elon Musk’s financiers are gambling on his vision being representative of the future.    Articles undermining that vision can be expected from supporters of the established players such as the oil industry revenue collectors and the dealerships etc.   I would also expect pension fund managers need to be influenced by scare stories and ‘who’s side are you on ‘.

Musk is like Branson, unlikely to go away.

Trump took his businesses  to near bankruptcy but the Banks ,who were  s...ing themselves,said he was too big to fail.

Look what they left us with.

Blue sky thinkers can be very good but also dangerous, unless they have a good business team around then and the owner listens to their views in running the business.

Tesla --thursday close $336 --------Monday close $345.86   some fall !

6 hours ago, vrskeith said:

Trump took his businesses  to near bankruptcy but the Banks ,who were  s...ing themselves,said he was too big to fail.

Look what they left us with.

Blue sky thinkers can be very good but also dangerous, unless they have a good business team around then and the owner listens to their views in running the business.

Just don’t mention credibility and Trump in the same breath.

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at least they bought it in stead of hiring/strip/rebuild-----wonder who those  cheeky buggers could be ?

VW group spend millions,  billions really of borrowed money on Audi's Endurance Racing and developing diesel electric hybrids, building factories in South America,  Hungary and elsewhere and this is to be the great new future until the cheeky burgerers are caught,  and they are stuck with some not very good EV's yet have the nerve to comment on anyone else's endeavours. Or spin journalists.  

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On 04/12/2017 at 13:11, wyx087 said:

Hybrids are a cop-out, especially PH"E"V, where they are essentially a mild hybrid with a slightly bigger battery. It's the ICE I want to get rid of, it's just too inefficient and too costly to run. The only hybrid worth considering before going all battery are Range extended hybrids designed from ground up, unfortunately only Ampera and i3 REx available.

 

I do agree the money can be better spent on NHS. On the other hand, where are the pollution tax on combustion engines? If there are carbon tax on everything, EV have already been exceeding their mark. Current EV subsidy around the world only tries to balance that.

 

Model 3 is where EV will hit its mark for mass market. The new Leaf 40kWh and current Zoe 40kWh are already great cars for town driving and they are able to do occasional long distance drives. Tesla Model 3 with Tesla's supercharger network are actually very capable long distance cars. Unfortunately Tesla are the only ones building a charging networks, it is their car's biggest asset.

 

So Model 3 will have enabled long distance driving for the masses, it has also hit the mark on ownership cost (purchase price + running cost), it also has future autonomous capabilities unlockable via software instead of buying a whole new car. It's the perfect car to own for a long time!  and I plan to own one for at least 10 years.

Ditto

someone just reporting 400 horses on the dyno, ( I know I know:cool:)  for Model 3

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I’ve read reports of pretty appalling production line quality, as if a rushed job to convince Wall St of Tesla’s viability as judged by production numbers.    Strangely the owners don’t seem to care.

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So I test drove YouYou’s Model 3 last night, near ExCel centre. 
 
I lend him my Type 2 to Type 1 32amp cable for his time in UK while he sorts out supercharging issues. So I got an exclusive first look and test drive of the car. :D I was told I was the second person to drive Model 3 in UK. 
 
(That's my Leaf in the background of photo) 
 
Personally, I find it drive very well: a lot of instant torque, AP works great, off-centre screen isn't a problem, steering is fast and direct. Perfect size for UK roads. Only negatives I found is the rear seat floor is too high and a few noticeable "Tesla quality" panels.

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