Morning All,

 

New to this forum…..so Hello All.

 

Only came across this forum this week….and very very impressed with the amount of information and knowledge on here!

I’m in the South of Ireland and just about to purchase my 1^st Skoda.

 

Looking at the Skoda Superb III Sportline 190 Hatchback in Red. Have been to the dealer and pretty much on the verge of ordering.

 

Had pretty much fully decided on what I wanted until I came across this forum earlier this week…and now I have a few questions I need a little help with!!!

 

A lot of my questions are covered over various topics but I just wanted an updated opinion in one place please!

 

I moving from a 2011 Mazda 6 2.2D Sport Executive model 129Bhp

Before that I was driving a Mk V Golf Gti from new.

I love the Mazda but I miss the power in the Gti…understandably so!!!

So I always said when I changed again I’d buy something with a little more poke…hence the 190 Sportline

 

But from looking at this forum I have a few questions…

1. The most serious one is what the hell is Adblue? I never heard of this until reading this forum. Nothing was ever mentioned in the dealership. From what I can gather it’s an engine additive every 7000 miles or so anything up to 10 litres. But this is not required in the 150. Why so? Is it an emissions thing? It seems some people are favouring Adblue engines and some are against. What’s the difference??

 

2. The big debate…..150Bhp v 190Bhp. On paper there are some obvious differences……extra Horses…more torque….quicker 0-60 times etc….But from reading in this forum all those stats seem minimal in the real world and quite a few people are going for the 150 over the 190. I really don’t want an average car like the Mazda I currently have…I’m looking for something a little more powerful and fun to drive hence why I’ve been heading towards the 190. Anyone on here recently purchased a 190? Unfortunately I don’t even think there’s a dealer around that has a 190 in stock to test drive and there aren’t even too many 150’s I think…but maybe some of the Irish lads on here can correct me on this??

 

3. Over here there are only 2 alloy options for the Sportline. The 18” Zenith come as standard or you can upgrade to the 19” Vega. Personally I don’t want either and I asked the dealer could I get the 18” Phoenix Anthracite (1^st choice) or possibly the 18” Modus. He stated no way could it be done. So I asked if I order it with the 18” standard Zenith’s….would the dealer then maybe swap them out before I collect it…which seems reasonable considering the money I’m paying for the car over here. Again…told No…only 2 options available. This now has me bothered enough that I’m considering not ordering the car & looking at some other brand…as I do not like the 2 alloy options available. Any opinions  / Advice on this???

 

Excuse the long 1^st post…Hope I haven’t breached any newbie protocol!!!!

 

Thanks

 

Mr B

Morning All,

 

New to this forum…..so Hello All.

 

Only came across this forum this week….and very very impressed with the amount of information and knowledge on here!

I’m in the South of Ireland and just about to purchase my 1^st Skoda.

 

Looking at the Skoda Superb III Sportline 190 Hatchback in Red. Have been to the dealer and pretty much on the verge of ordering.

 

Had pretty much fully decided on what I wanted until I came across this forum earlier this week…and now I have a few questions I need a little help with!!!

 

A lot of my questions are covered over various topics but I just wanted an updated opinion in one place please!

 

I moving from a 2011 Mazda 6 2.2D Sport Executive model 129Bhp

Before that I was driving a Mk V Golf Gti from new.

I love the Mazda but I miss the power in the Gti…understandably so!!!

So I always said when I changed again I’d buy something with a little more poke…hence the 190 Sportline

 

But from looking at this forum I have a few questions…

1. The most serious one is what the hell is Adblue? I never heard of this until reading this forum. Nothing was ever mentioned in the dealership. From what I can gather it’s an engine additive every 7000 miles or so anything up to 10 litres. But this is not required in the 150. Why so? Is it an emissions thing? It seems some people are favouring Adblue engines and some are against. What’s the difference??

 

2. The big debate…..150Bhp v 190Bhp. On paper there are some obvious differences……extra Horses…more torque….quicker 0-60 times etc….But from reading in this forum all those stats seem minimal in the real world and quite a few people are going for the 150 over the 190. I really don’t want an average car like the Mazda I currently have…I’m looking for something a little more powerful and fun to drive hence why I’ve been heading towards the 190. Anyone on here recently purchased a 190? Unfortunately I don’t even think there’s a dealer around that has a 190 in stock to test drive and there aren’t even too many 150’s I think…but maybe some of the Irish lads on here can correct me on this??

 

3. Over here there are only 2 alloy options for the Sportline. The 18” Zenith come as standard or you can upgrade to the 19” Vega. Personally I don’t want either and I asked the dealer could I get the 18” Phoenix Anthracite (1^st choice) or possibly the 18” Modus. He stated no way could it be done. So I asked if I order it with the 18” standard Zenith’s….would the dealer then maybe swap them out before I collect it…which seems reasonable considering the money I’m paying for the car over here. Again…told No…only 2 options available. This now has me bothered enough that I’m considering not ordering the car & looking at some other brand…as I do not like the 2 alloy options available. Any opinions  / Advice on this???

 

Excuse the long 1^st post…Hope I haven’t breached any newbie protocol!!!!

 

Thanks

 

Mr B

 

 

 

Welcome to the forum

 

1) - Adblue - take a read here - http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/technology/diesel/adblue   - 

 

2) I have a 150, friend has a 190bhp Passat, they both feel the same under normal driving. I went 150 due to tax (Company car)  - The 150 can feel a little lacking mid range i find and could do with been a little quicker when pushed, but this is not a major negative.

 

3) Not sure with the wheels.... Unless you can find a local member to swap with !

 

3)

As Rick alluded the AdBlue is urea (synthetic liquid pee, basically) which is added to a tank in the rear. It is sprayed into the exhaust gases (after the DPF) as a catalyst to react with the fumes and reduce NOx (nitrous oxides). The 190 requires it because without this SCR (selective catalyst reduction) system it wouldn't meet Euro VI emissions regulations. The 150 is a smaller engine and meets the regs without the need for SCR. 

 

What is your annual mileage? I don't want to sound like I'm proselytising but is it worth you even getting a diesel? If you're harking back to your GTi and want something a bit lively what about the 2.0 TSI 220 or 280? The former uses the new GTi engine and the latter is the same engine as the Cupra R. If you're doing less than 20k miles a year (~30k KM) then it may not be worth you buying a diesel anyway. Definitely check the maths on that one including total cost of ownership.

 

I can't help with the wheels issue either, sorry. 

Hi,

 

On the issue of adblue, I have recently collected a 190 dsg estate that uses adblue. as other posts say, the adblue is there to reduce emissions. I went for the 190 for 2 reasons - firstly power - whilst some say on here that there isn't much difference between them, clearly a 190 is going to be quicker than a 150 - whether you want that extra power is down to individual choice. The other issue was road tax - the 190 with lower CO2 emissions is in a lower road tax band so for me this partly reduced the extra cost of the 190. There are discussions on this forum about opinions on the 150 vs 190 you might want to read through.

 

On the wheels issue, I have gone for the Modus wheels and like them. If it is important to you I think I would sort everything else out and say to the dealer you are prepared to order if that change can be made. You could contact Skoda UK on that point before you order and see what they say - I did this for a couple of questions before ordering through the online contact form and each time they called me with an answer within 48 hours.

Thanks RickTT....Interesting info on the Adblue

Morning All,

 

New to this forum…..so Hello All.

 

Only came across this forum this week….and very very impressed with the amount of information and knowledge on here!

I’m in the South of Ireland and just about to purchase my 1^st Skoda.

 

Looking at the Skoda Superb III Sportline 190 Hatchback in Red. Have been to the dealer and pretty much on the verge of ordering.

 

Had pretty much fully decided on what I wanted until I came across this forum earlier this week…and now I have a few questions I need a little help with!!!

 

A lot of my questions are covered over various topics but I just wanted an updated opinion in one place please!

 

I moving from a 2011 Mazda 6 2.2D Sport Executive model 129Bhp

Before that I was driving a Mk V Golf Gti from new.

I love the Mazda but I miss the power in the Gti…understandably so!!!

So I always said when I changed again I’d buy something with a little more poke…hence the 190 Sportline

 

But from looking at this forum I have a few questions…

1. The most serious one is what the hell is Adblue? I never heard of this until reading this forum. Nothing was ever mentioned in the dealership. From what I can gather it’s an engine additive every 7000 miles or so anything up to 10 litres. But this is not required in the 150. Why so? Is it an emissions thing? It seems some people are favouring Adblue engines and some are against. What’s the difference??

 

2. The big debate…..150Bhp v 190Bhp. On paper there are some obvious differences……extra Horses…more torque….quicker 0-60 times etc….But from reading in this forum all those stats seem minimal in the real world and quite a few people are going for the 150 over the 190. I really don’t want an average car like the Mazda I currently have…I’m looking for something a little more powerful and fun to drive hence why I’ve been heading towards the 190. Anyone on here recently purchased a 190? Unfortunately I don’t even think there’s a dealer around that has a 190 in stock to test drive and there aren’t even too many 150’s I think…but maybe some of the Irish lads on here can correct me on this??

 

3. Over here there are only 2 alloy options for the Sportline. The 18” Zenith come as standard or you can upgrade to the 19” Vega. Personally I don’t want either and I asked the dealer could I get the 18” Phoenix Anthracite (1^st choice) or possibly the 18” Modus. He stated no way could it be done. So I asked if I order it with the 18” standard Zenith’s….would the dealer then maybe swap them out before I collect it…which seems reasonable considering the money I’m paying for the car over here. Again…told No…only 2 options available. This now has me bothered enough that I’m considering not ordering the car & looking at some other brand…as I do not like the 2 alloy options available. Any opinions  / Advice on this???

 

Excuse the long 1^st post…Hope I haven’t breached any newbie protocol!!!!

 

Thanks

 

Mr B

Here in Ireland the 1.6 TDI will be the volume seller so as you say a 150 can be hard to find in a dealer.  You've probably seen much of the debate on the 150 v 190 on this forum as of course the 190 has to be quicker in some respect but the extra 40nm torque just isn't really obvious.  Personally I would save the €1,400 or so maybe even use it for an extra option or two but I see where you're coming from with having a quick car.  You will be surprised (in a positive way) by the 150 however, trust me so I wouldn't write it off.  Not sure where you are based but are you dealing with a large dealership?  It will be hard to find a 190 in Ireland, I've seen a few for sale late last year but I think they were earlier models that have been shifted now - some of the early demos were 190s I think.

 

On the wheel issue, I don't have direct experience myself as I ordered 18" Pegasus for a Style model but I would simply put your choices it to them as a deal breaker and be prepared to walk away from them. If it is a larger dealership, will they be shifting more Sportlines that they could potentially do a swap with?  The problem is they are selling so many cars now that they are becoming a little picky about sales.  It is a lot of money though as you say and your request is not unreasonable.

 

The Superb will be a more comfortable and relaxed car than the 6.  You're right to stick with 18s as well considering the general state of our roads!

Rainmaker...we do not have the 220 as an option in Ireland...otherwise I would have considered this option! Only a 1.4 petrol 125ps or a 2 litre 280ps....but the price of the 280 is ridiculous over here

Hi MrB,

Welcome , I'm from roscommon in Ireland so might be of some local help to you.

I have a sportline 190 due for collection any day now . I'm moving from a mk7 gtd with 184bhp so I went for the 190 sportline . My dealer had both 150 and 190 cars in stock so I got the chance to test drive both .

The 150 is pretty good in fairness, in normal driving the difference is small enough but once you give it some beans it starts to run out of puff above 120kms whereas the 190 just keeps on pulling .

I felt the 190 was almost as quick as my gtd which is no slouch at all.

You would need to drive both yourself to make up your own mind though.

There should,nt be much of a problom getting a test drive in both , I spoke to 3 dealers when I was buying mine and they were all had sportline,s on order or in the forecourt.

I know Micheal Moores, s Athlone have a 150 hatch in stock now (I bought the 190) and monaghan,s Galway have one as well but I can't remember what bhp that one is.

The adblue is no big deal , I think a tank full is about 12ltrs and should last about 7000kms depending on driving style . You can buy it in a 10ltr drum from vw for €15. Maybe cheaper if buying in larger quantities elsewhere. The car will tell you in lots of time when it is time to top up .

Strange on on the wheels issue , I thought they would have been more accommodating , did you try another dealer ? I've heard of dealers swapping wheels for customers in the past.

^{@SportlineBri....Good info there. I had been told there were no 190's in the country!!! so it was going to be difficult to get a test drive. Definitely going to take my time now and shop around. Had told my Dealer that the Alloys would be a deal breaker...but there was nothing to be done..so I'm more than happy to go elsewhere} 

Rainmaker...we do not have the 220 as an option in Ireland...otherwise I would have considered this option! Only a 1.4 petrol 125ps or a 2 litre 280ps....but the price of the 280 is ridiculous over here

 

Ah that's a shame. It's a shame you can't order one over here and jump on a ferry... I imagine the import taxes and whatnot would be a bit of a nightmare. As others have said don't write off the 150 so quickly, in real world driving there's not much in it. In fact one guy on here put his 190 on a dyno because he wondered why it felt so similar to his last (less powerful) car, and it only came out around 170. Have you looked at Seat/VW? One of those might have something more suitable for you using the same components with an engine you'd prefer.

 

Also, the new Mazda 6 is a decent steer as well and I would imagine is not only available in the 2.0 165ps SkyActiv engine over there but even fully loaded it'd be cheaper than a mid-range Superb. I loved our 6 and I'd have another if we didn't have to squeeze the car seats in the back. Ford Mondeo 1.5 EcoBoost? Another nice motor and the new one not only looks good but it's bigger than the Superb! I know this is the Briskoda forum but it'd be stupid not to shop around and make sure you're getting the best for your buck, especially in a market where your choices have been limited by Skoda. Best of luck either way mate. :thumbup:

^{@SportlineBri....Good info there. I had been told there were no 190's in the country!!! so it was going to be difficult to get a test drive. Definitely going to take my time now and shop around. Had told my Dealer that the Alloys would be a deal breaker...but there was nothing to be done..so I'm more than happy to go elsewhere} 

I doubt that to be honest ? I'd go to another dealer any try them . Maybe a bit far away from you but I was happy with Michael Moores Athlone and the salesman was knowledgeable and accommodating,they have a 150 white hatch in stock which is int sold afaik? I can pm you additional details if you want?

If all fails you can come and drive mine when I get it no problom.

Well.....you're gonna love this then!! The dealer that I was buying from has a white 150ps sportline in the showroom. I was able to sit in it...look at it...but when I enquired if I could test drive it I was told NO!! I enquired why and he said he could let me drive a similar non-Sportline model even though the one in the showroom was for sale!! I asked was it just for Display purposes only but was told again No..it is for sale. Very strange considering I was a serious buyer!

Well.....you're gonna love this then!! The dealer that I was buying from has a white 150ps sportline in the showroom. I was able to sit in it...look at it...but when I enquired if I could test drive it I was told NO!! I enquired why and he said he could let me drive a similar non-Sportline model even though the one in the showroom was for sale!! I asked was it just for Display purposes only but was told again No..it is for sale. Very strange considering I was a serious buyer!

 

Not going off topic.. but this is sometimes as cars in the showroom have been provided by HQ as display models only with the view of selling them (no test drives) but can test drive a similar model..

 

Plus its a nightmare to sometimes get the cars out !

Do not rely on "some" guy that has done testing on DYMO, attached you will se test from well respected motor magazine from Sweden that has been thoroughly tested Superb TDI 190
 
 https://1drv.ms/i/s!AgOhAwGbj-oKpy47xSZ5uug3aSoi    

 

I have a 2015 170 bhp and I found it was a nice bit quicker than the 140bhp. I test drove the 190ps DSG and was'nt blown away by it though - if you look at the stats it seems that both engines are almost identical up to 3000 rev's but the 190 pulls better after that. Ultimately its 1400 quid which isnt nothing but not bad value for 40bhp. Im thinking the Sportine spec does look great and its good value for money as you get a lot of toys and it looks quite different from other Superbs - the only thing its missing is sat nav (but it does have smart link)

 

To be honest I wouldnt be put off by not driving the car in the showroom, if I was buying a new car I wouldnt like if it had been used for test drives, this is why they have demo models on. Also I think technically they are not allowed drive a car without vrt paid on it legally

 

Not sure if its happening, but I read that Skoda were hoping to bring in either a 1.8 or 2.0 TSI with 190bhp, but with so few petrols sold in Ireland, your probably better off still going for the diesel for re-sale regardless of the miles you drive

 

Your cost to change to stick with Mazda might be better - are you considering the 175bhp Mazda 6? Its really loaded with toys and should be a good few grand cheaper with another Mazda to trade-in

Well.....you're gonna love this then!! The dealer that I was buying from has a white 150ps sportline in the showroom. I was able to sit in it...look at it...but when I enquired if I could test drive it I was told NO!! I enquired why and he said he could let me drive a similar non-Sportline model even though the one in the showroom was for sale!! I asked was it just for Display purposes only but was told again No..it is for sale. Very strange considering I was a serious buyer!

Can't really blame them for not letting you drive it. It a new car and if you didn't purchase it after driving it it would have a few more kilometres on the clock and then it would be an ex demo. Imagine if every customer asked to drive a new car they'd have a showroom full of used/ex demo cars.

They should have a specific demo available, which may not be the exact spec you are after but at least it should give you some idea.

SportlineBri has made you a fantastic offer of trying his when he gets it - sounds a top guy to me.

Hi MrB1

 

I bought a 150BHP Style last August. Also debated over the 190 but after getting to drive both could not justify the extra €1400 for an extra 40BHP as it did not feel a huge difference on the open road. 

With the 150 you lose 0.8 seconds in the 0 - 100km/h time but I find it has more than enough poke when overtaking which is more important for me as overtaking opportunities are limited on the roads in Mayo

You should be able to find a 190 to test drive. I seen one on Monaghans, Galway and also a dealer in Limerick. I would not make a decision until you can compare both for yourself.

As regards the alloys, my dealer (Monaghans in Castlebar) had no problem swapping the standard 17" alloys fitted to the Irish spec Style with a pair of 18" Modus that were fitted on an ex demo in the showroom. I did have to pay extra for them but didn't mind as this would also be the case if ordering from the factory. 

What other cars are you considering? Ive been going around the dealers this week and have come to the conclusion that Superb is getting very pricy- two years ago when I bought my Superb Combi 2.0 Ambition, a Passat was coming in 4k more expensive on a like for like spec and engine, but now the Passat is looking great value  e.g. Passat Highline Business 150ps DSG is 40,185 versus Style 2.0 DSG at 40,595 - but the Passat has better spec - Keyless, Sunset,  ACC, Headlight Assist, Heated Steering Wheel, Spare Alloy rather than 16' steel wheel, Park Assist and best of all the excellent Active Info Display and also LED headlights - the last two of which aren't offered on the Skoda at all. Also VW are doing good discounts too

 

Im on my second Superb II and was attracted by the 'bang for you buck' and have generally been happy (despite a few expensive issues with the first one) but now Skoda seems to like charging a big premium and Im not sure its justified - i.e. apart from the extra legroom. If I had the money I think 46k (plus delivery) price on a new E200d looks serious better value than anything from Skoda. Going cheaper the Mondeo ST-Line is looking like a very attractive alternative at the moment too

 

What are other Irish Skoda owners thinking? At what point will Skoda have really shot itself in the foot?

What other cars are you considering? Ive been going around the dealers this week and have come to the conclusion that Superb is getting very pricy- two years ago when I bought my Superb Combi 2.0 Ambition, a Passat was coming in 4k more expensive on a like for like spec and engine, but now the Passat is looking great value  e.g. Passat Highline Business 150ps DSG is 40,185 versus Style 2.0 DSG at 40,595 - but the Passat has better spec - Keyless, Sunset,  ACC, Headlight Assist, Heated Steering Wheel, Spare Alloy rather than 16' steel wheel, Park Assist and best of all the excellent Active Info Display and also LED headlights - the last two of which aren't offered on the Skoda at all. Also VW are doing good discounts too

 

Im on my second Superb II and was attracted by the 'bang for you buck' and have generally been happy (despite a few expensive issues with the first one) but now Skoda seems to like charging a big premium and Im not sure its justified - i.e. apart from the extra legroom. If I had the money I think 46k (plus delivery) price on a new E200d looks serious better value than anything from Skoda. Going cheaper the Mondeo ST-Line is looking like a very attractive alternative at the moment too

 

What are other Irish Skoda owners thinking? At what point will Skoda have really shot itself in the foot?

Yes, I agree with you although I have just forked out €42K on a new Superb myself!  I was seriously tempted by other 'premium' makes and TBH if the A6 and 5 series were not run out models I might have gone for one (or even very slightly used).  However, the other side is that I think prices for those will jump to €50K plus once the new models arrive and Mercedes' temporary 10% price reduction across the board will be short-lived anyway, meaning that the difference between a decently-spec'ed Superb for say, €40ishK might make more sense.  There is no doubt that Skoda prices have jumped up though and I feel their brand identity may be getting lost - is it budget or premium or what now??

 

The 10% Mercedes price reduction wasn't there when I was changing but if it was, I might just have been tempted but then again once you start ticking a few option boxes there.....  BTW, is there a catch there with that reduction - I haven't looked at it in detail but it seems too good to be true or are they under pressure with the current Audi and BMW prices still being sub €50K?

Also, the trade-in value you get from a Audi or BMW dealer (if you're trading a Skoda) versus what you get trading a Skoda for a Skoda is a factor.  I know I wouldn't have got near what I did if I was trading for something else.  I did many calculations late last year and I kept coming back to the Superb though and still reckon I saved at least €8K to €10K versus a premium equivalent, taking the overall cost of change, the cost of the options that I really wanted but would have had to pay handsomely for elsewhere etc.  Good point on the Passat though and goes back to my point on brand identity.  It will be interesting next time around - it will take a bit more to keep me buying Skodas if those prices keep rising as the gap is not where it was used to be.

Also, the trade-in value you get from a Audi or BMW dealer (if you're trading a Skoda) versus what you get trading a Skoda for a Skoda is a factor.  I know I wouldn't have got near what I did if I was trading for something else.  I did many calculations late last year and I kept coming back to the Superb though and still reckon I saved at least €8K to €10K versus a premium equivalent, taking the overall cost of change, the cost of the options that I really wanted but would have had to pay handsomely for elsewhere etc.  Good point on the Passat though and goes back to my point on brand identity.  It will be interesting next time around - it will take a bit more to keep me buying Skodas if those prices keep rising as the gap is not where it was used to be.

The resale is my biggest issue at the moment - Ive been bringing my 151 Superb around to the dealers and its obvious that they are pricing the trade in value against the cost of buying similar cars in the U.K. +Vrt to import - meanwhile the new price of the Superb keeps going up so the cost to change isnt anything like what it was previously. FYI Im looking at 15k to trade up two years to an 190ps Amibition Combi (and thats one without nav + leather which came 'free' on mine), which is more than I paid to upgrade 4 years the last time(previous 2011 Amition 140 Combi to current 170 Combi).

 

I agree that even with discounts the premium cars are still more expensive, but I think you can see the difference in quality/ performance. Fundamentally the Superb is competing against the Mondeo's. Passat's. Optima's, i40's, Mazda 6's and against those its looking more expensive across the board. If you ordered yours last year you avoided the latest price increase too. The 0% PCP that Skoda has differentiated itself by is now offered by Ford on certin models, Hyundia, VW and other direct competitors so I really see this having an effect on sales.

 

The new 520d is 52k+ delivery + met, but BMW are offering 5k discount in addition to the dealer discount (which is about 1200 I hear on a new 520d) so about 48k on the road inc met.  Jaguar are doing 4k 'support' again in addition to whatever discount the dealer would give. Mercedes have dropped 10% and the dealer discount % is the same. Audi have stuck firm to the pricing and have lost out to Mercedes from a sales perspective. These premium price reductions are coming in an effort to target the effect of Brexit so it looks like they will be around along as sterling to euro is less than 1: 1.20 I'd guess / and import taxes from U.K. dont alter.

The resale is my biggest issue at the moment - Ive been bringing my 151 Superb around to the dealers and its obvious that they are pricing the trade in value against the cost of buying similar cars in the U.K. +Vrt to import - meanwhile the new price of the Superb keeps going up so the cost to change isnt anything like what it was previously. FYI Im looking at 15k to trade up two years to an 190ps Amibition Combi (and thats one without nav + leather which came 'free' on mine), which is more than I paid to upgrade 4 years the last time(previous 2011 Amition 140 Combi to current 170 Combi).

 

I agree that even with discounts the premium cars are still more expensive, but I think you can see the difference in quality/ performance. Fundamentally the Superb is competing against the Mondeo's. Passat's. Optima's, i40's, Mazda 6's and against those its looking more expensive across the board. If you ordered yours last year you avoided the latest price increase too. The 0% PCP that Skoda has differentiated itself by is now offered by Ford on certin models, Hyundia, VW and other direct competitors so I really see this having an effect on sales.

 

The new 520d is 52k+ delivery + met, but BMW are offering 5k discount in addition to the dealer discount (which is about 1200 I hear on a new 520d) so about 48k on the road inc met.  Jaguar are doing 4k 'support' again in addition to whatever discount the dealer would give. Mercedes have dropped 10% and the dealer discount % is the same. Audi have stuck firm to the pricing and have lost out to Mercedes from a sales perspective. These premium price reductions are coming in an effort to target the effect of Brexit so it looks like they will be around along as sterling to euro is less than 1: 1.20 I'd guess / and import taxes from U.K. dont alter.

€15K sounds a bit on the high side.  It cost me just a couple of grand more than that to go from my 2014 (cost €37K in 2014 with 120k kms on the clock) to my current one costing €42K and although the new car was €5K more expensive, it was only marginally more expensive (less than a grand) to change compared to the last time I changed from my 2011 to 2014, so I was either being screwed the previously or I got a much better deal this time.  I presume you're looking in Dublin?  I wonder if you went outside the capital, even to Wicklow or Kildare would the prices quoted be the same or maybe you've already done that?  There was a difference of €5K on the cost of change between two dealers I went to!  I see where you're coming from though and I'd be tempted by those deals alright - as I said, it was a closer call this time for me and next time I might just take the plunge with the extra few bob and go for something more premium (or perceived to be anyway).  Having said all that, I'm quite happy with the Superb so far and consider it a rival to the Audi, sitting somewhere in between the A4 and A6.  The Merc would be something special though :)

€15K sounds a bit on the high side.  It cost me just a couple of grand more than that to go from my 2014 (cost €37K in 2014 with 120k kms on the clock) to my current one costing €42K and although the new car was €5K more expensive, it was only marginally more expensive (less than a grand) to change compared to the last time I changed from my 2011 to 2014, so I was either being screwed the previously or I got a much better deal this time.  I presume you're looking in Dublin?  I wonder if you went outside the capital, even to Wicklow or Kildare would the prices quoted be the same or maybe you've already done that?  There was a difference of €5K on the cost of change between two dealers I went to!  I see where you're coming from though and I'd be tempted by those deals alright - as I said, it was a closer call this time for me and next time I might just take the plunge with the extra few bob and go for something more premium (or perceived to be anyway).  Having said all that, I'm quite happy with the Superb so far and consider it a rival to the Audi, sitting somewhere in between the A4 and A6.  The Merc would be something special though  :)

I need to get more quotes for sure - only talking to the Dublin lads so far- sounds like you got a great deal as although the L&K is lovely you'd expect to to have to pay a bit more for the privilege. I'm not too pushed about trading now as mine is a great car and Im happy keeping her for another year or two but I think I might see what other value is out there too and travel a bit further

So...an update!!

Finally bit the bullet and have my 1st Skoda ordered!

Went with the Sportline Hatch 190 in Corrida Red.

I was happy enough with what comes with the car so wasn't too interested in extras. The only extra I ordered were the upgraded 19" Vega Alloys and a rear wiper as well as a query for an alarm...which I'm not sure is even an option!

Now the wait begins!!

So...an update!!

Finally bit the bullet and have my 1st Skoda ordered!

Went with the Sportline Hatch 190 in Corrida Red.

I was happy enough with what comes with the car so wasn't too interested in extras. The only extra I ordered were the upgraded 19" Vega Alloys and a rear wiper as well as a query for an alarm...which I'm not sure is even an option!

Now the wait begins!!

Well done! Corrida Red is nice and distinctive and suits the Sportline. Not sure about the rear wiper from an aesthetics point of view but it's practical of course. What kind of lead time are you looking at?