Diesel engine software update! Yes or No?

[yesman]

Hi all, I know there has been plenty of threads about this but I've just had my letter requesting me to book my Superb in for the update, I use it for towing a caravan so can't afford any of the negative effects that I have read about that some VAG cars seem to have suffered! So my question is do I get it done, Yes or No? whats your experience if you had it done or if you decided not to have it done, why?

Cheers 

Edited 6 February, 2017 by yesman

[jafo]

If you read them all - why do you ask ?

 

If you need "insurance" - ask them to do dyno before and after - if they refuse then tell them to go to hell - or pay for it yourself. 

[Breezy_Pete]

If you don't want anything to change, don't have the software changed. It's as simple as that.

[kevberlin]

No.

Potential losses outweigh non existent gains.

[yesman]

4 minutes ago, jafo said:

If you read them all - why do you ask ?

 

If you need "insurance" - ask them to do dyno before and after - if they refuse then tell them to go to hell - or pay for it yourself. 

Yes I have read them but all the opinions get lost in all the technical gumpf posted on those threads! Just wanted one place with answers to one subject.

[jafo]

??? If you read them all then you should at least know that this "fix" comes with a price - somewhere. They can't make car more eco without sacrificing something - either dynamic, fuel efficiency, top speed, noise, etc.

[Ootohere]

'Some say'  their vehicle goes better after The Fix', but maybe it was needing a Software Update anyway so now has that in new engine management that suits how their vehicle is driven.

[yesman]

1 minute ago, jafo said:

??? If you read them all then you should at least know that this "fix" comes with a price - somewhere. They can't make car more eco without sacrificing something - either dynamic, fuel efficiency, top speed, noise, etc.

Yes your right but as I said I just thought one place with peoples experience or reasons for and against the upgrade would be easier to view!

[jafo]

Why do you think your thread would be better than others? There is already few threads that have enough info why not to do it - and are properly titled.

 

To answer your question - no, don't do it. Why? Just because.

[yesman]

10 minutes ago, jafo said:

Why do you think your thread would be better than others? There is already few threads that have enough info why not to do it - and are properly titled.

 

To answer your question - no, don't do it. Why? Just because.

What is your problem! I was asking for specific advice from fellow Skoda owners on this issue and thought that one place to go would be helpful, I never said it would be better just hopefully helpful! If you have nothing helpful to say yourself please leave the decent advice to others!

Edited 6 February, 2017 by yesman

[eribaMotters]

Yesman,

I had my 110bhp Yeti "done" a couple of weeks ago. First impressions were slightly increased fuel consumption on early morning short drive to work, but this is a bit unfair as temperatures are low and this seems to have improved as the weather has warmed up.

Engine seems a bit more responsive around 70 mph. This would tie in with another post that showed dyno results on a 140bhp peak torque now comes in 300rpm higher.

If you message me end of next week I should be able to give you feedback on a long run and towing a caravan. I am due a 250 mile solo run next weekend, and have to pick up a new van on way back, towing it about 150 miles. It's empty weight will be very close to full weight of last van so it should give a good comparison.

 

Colin

[jafo]

I don't have a problem - you do.

You can't understand that you are not asking any new/different question(s) that has been already asked and answered - either by simple "yes"/"no" or long technical explanation.

So you are just duplicating what was already discussed. 

[yesman]

6 minutes ago, eribaMotters said:

Yesman,

I had my 110bhp Yeti "done" a couple of weeks ago. First impressions were slightly increased fuel consumption on early morning short drive to work, but this is a bit unfair as temperatures are low and this seems to have improved as the weather has warmed up.

Engine seems a bit more responsive around 70 mph. This would tie in with another post that showed dyno results on a 140bhp peak torque now comes in 300rpm higher.

If you message me end of next week I should be able to give you feedback on a long run and towing a caravan. I am due a 250 mile solo run next weekend, and have to pick up a new van on way back, towing it about 150 miles. It's empty weight will be very close to full weight of last van so it should give a good comparison.

 

Colin

Ok mate, thanks for your reply, nice to get a decent one!

Edited 6 February, 2017 by yesman

[yesman]

20 minutes ago, jafo said:

I don't have a problem - you do.

You can't understand that you are not asking any new/different question(s) that has been already asked and answered - either by simple "yes"/"no" or long technical explanation.

So you are just duplicating what was already discussed. 

All the other threads are either speculation about what the update is or might do with the odd Skoda owners experience mixed in it! I am looking for advice and experience from people who have it done or decided not to have it done and theres been no specific thread asking that! As my thread seems to offend you that bad that you feel the need to criticise me for starting it I suggest you don't read it and then you won't have a problem with me or it or a need to add your unhelpful opinions! Cheers!

Edited 6 February, 2017 by yesman

[Danny 57]

I had the update done and now after quite a period since, wish I had not. I thought that the car was doing more regents and I am now convince of it. Today I waited for one to stop and gave up after 28 minutes as I knew that once I got back in the car I had a journey of 25 miles. Starting to annoy me now as I have had the car for nearly five years now and this, more regents to this degree has only happened since the "update". 

[jafo]

5 minutes ago, yesman said:

All the other threads are either speculation about what the update is or might do with the odd Skoda owners experience mixed in it!   

Without dyno before and after - all opinions are just speculations without any real proof.

Danny57 just mentioned more often regens - without detailed info - fuel quality, temperature, driving conditions, etc.etc. it's just his feelings - not a real proof that fix is the reason - no offence Danny57

Also - like Offski said - something else could have been updated in the ECU so all opinions are just a "feelings"/speculations.

So, I'm sorry but your thread is still a bunch of speculations.

 

Once again - if you need assurance why you shouldn't do it - read technical explanations - not someone else's feelings.

[yesman]

22 minutes ago, jafo said:

Without dyno before and after - all opinions are just speculations without any real proof.

Danny57 just mentioned more often regens - without detailed info - fuel quality, temperature, driving conditions, etc.etc. it's just his feelings - not a real proof that fix is the reason - no offence Danny57

Also - like Offski said - something else could have been updated in the ECU so all opinions are just a "feelings"/speculations.

So, I'm sorry but your thread is still a bunch of speculations.

 

Once again - if you need assurance why you shouldn't do it - read technical explanations - not someone else's feelings.

As VW/Skoda wont release any data about the upgrade, what it entails and any affected on the engines true performance then its hard to go by any they are or aren't saying!

Real world experience is much more valuable than dyno testing as has been proved by this whole scandal! Most car owners know their cars inside out and will notice any difference how ever small! This isn't speculation in anyway! If Danny57 is saying his car is doing more regens he will know! I know how often my car regens so will also know if it's doing more, some say theirs are using more fuel! Again this isn't speculation as owners know how much fuel they put it! So you are effectively insulting everyone by say no one has the right to have an opinion on how their car is behaving from their own experience without having concrete technical data! I will more happily go by what owners who use their cars on a daily basis than by a car company that have been out to defraud their customers!

I really don't know why you seem to have taken so much offence to my thread so if you really haven't got a different record to play or anything helpful to say would you please keep opinions to yourself as your beginning to get tiresome now! Thanks 

Edited 6 February, 2017 by yesman

[Danny 57]

Jaf, no offence taken. The journeys and fuel have not changed in over four years, only temperature change is the seasons and as someone who is quite anal about his car and the speeds have also remained the same.

[jafo]

16 minutes ago, Danny 57 said:

Jaf, no offence taken. The journeys and fuel have not changed in over four years, only temperature change is the seasons and as someone who is quite anal about his car and the speeds have also remained the same.

Ok, but regens can occur more often also because of the age/mileage - how old is your car and what mileage - or bad oil - was your car serviced when fix was applied? And few other reasons so you can't be 100% sure that the fix is the main reason

[lichfielddriver]

Ive heard nothing for ages

 

But I have joined the joint action on emissions... maybe they know

 

 

[yesman]

4 minutes ago, lichfielddriver said:

Ive heard nothing for ages

 

But I have joined the joint action on emissions... maybe they know

 

 

I hadn't heard anything for months and was only chatting about it at work today so typically when I got home a letter was waiting for me to book it in for the upgrade, that's why I thought I'd ask my fellow Skoda owners for their opinions/experience before I decide what to do!

[Ootohere]

Best do nothing other than tell any Dealership you might take your car into to not do the FIX.

 

What benefit to you is there in having it done?

[yesman]

Just now, Offski said:

Best do nothing other than tell any Dealership you might take your car into to not do the FIX.

 

What benefit to you is there in having it done?

Don't use stealers anymore as the car is well passed it's warranty, use a VAG specialist that are a lot more reliable and reasonable! From almost everyones helpful replies think I'm just going to sit on the letter for now as I can't risk any performance loss when towing our caravan and as I've been toying with getting a new Superb might get it done to sell or part-ex it. 

[Googolplex]

I checked where I stood on this at the recent service.  They said that if I didn't want it done, I didn't have to.  All I had to do was sign a sheet of paper for Skoda UK stating that I didn't want the update.  Apparently refusing it doesn't affect warranty.  If, at a future date, I change my mind then they will do the update free of charge.  

 

I'd say it's best not to have it done if you're happy with the way your car drives.

[yesman]

2 minutes ago, Googolplex said:

I checked where I stood on this at the recent service.  They said that if I didn't want it done, I didn't have to.  All I had to do was sign a sheet of paper for Skoda UK stating that I didn't want the update.  Apparently refusing it doesn't affect warranty.  If, at a future date, I change my mind then they will do the update free of charge.  

 

I'd say it's best not to have it done if you're happy with the way your car drives.

Cheers, Seems to be the general consensus of most who have given a helpful reply. Cheers again.