Looking to replace my aging and untrust worth Golf (so much for their rep) with a Yeti but my regular use is around 10K & a less than 10 mile commute, so have been looking for a 1.4 (4x4) petrol, but am finding them either hard to find (& who thought brown was a good colour choice?) or the diesel versions are cheaper & much much more plentiful (& not poo brown). Part of my issues with the golf I believe has been due to my low mileage, so thought to avoid another diesel. Am I shooting myself in the foot, by ignoring the diesels?

 

 

The 1.2 TSi is worth considering although only 2WD available,have a test drive you will be surprised at the performance  

Get a petrol before they are lumbered with a particulate filter too (GPF).

It’ll see you though to a battery perhaps.

Edited 29 December, 20178 yr by Ryeman

The 1.2 tsi is defiantly worth considering if you can live without 4x4. I had one and loved it. Would avoid older dsg though. Surprised with the power for a 1.2. Although this was much reduced when fully loaded.

Changed this year from a manual 2litre Tdi 4x4 to a manual 1.2tsi non 4x4. Petrol one is very quiet and pretty much the same good fuel consumption as the diesel. Changed as the Yeti being phased out and wanted to update. So far it's good with a good turn of speed and acceleration. Winter tyres from the diesel now fitted and so far so good.

I changed last January. The 1.2tsi dsg has enough 'get up and go' for my needs even with 5 adults in. One of the few things I don't like is that it doesn't put the power down onto the road well at all. Anything more than gentle acceleration spins the wheels. Having said that I'm glad I got away from diesel coz I do very little mileage nowadays and what I do is in short journeys - 3,400 miles in the first year.

Zippy,

my annual mileage was similar to yours. It included a 10 mile return trip to work, a few 600 mile return trips up and down the country and up to 3,000 miles of towing a 1200kg caravan. I went for the 110bhp diesel because of the towing as the 1.2 petrol did not have enough torque. The 1.4 and newer 1.5 petrol engines would however have been enough for me and I would probably have bought one if available. I think this is the direction you should go. They are very capable engines and should meet your needs. Also, do you need the 4x4 as a good set of winter/all seasons tyres would appear to cope with most needs for the majority of owners.

I have had the "fix" done and in 3yrs of ownership have experienced no related issues to dpf egr etc. I have had one blip with a throttle position sensor.

 

Colin

 

The Peugeot website has emissions data for ‘in stock’ 1.2 engines and higher emissions data for 2018 manufactured stock engines.

There won’t be any promotion of GPF as a desirable feature for obvious reasons.

I assume it’s mandatory fitment for 2018 European cars.

..you are in the same boat as me. I changed from a 2.0 ltr diesel Octavia 3 years ago and got a 1.4 petrol Octavia. (lower annual mileage and I do not want a dpf).  These (1.4 petrol), engines are simply brill. Similar driving characteristics to the diesel, and similar mpg. (45 mpg actual). I have been looking for a 1.4 Yeti for the last 6 months but have yet to find one "local". I wanted the 1.4 as I also tow a caravan. I can't understand why the 1.4 petrols are not more popular. (Not heard about any problems relating to the 1.4 engine), if I was not towing I would probably be happy with a 1.2.

The search for a 1.4 continues.......

Edited 30 December, 20178 yr by Stubod

The 1.4 petrol Yeti was only ever sold in the UK as a 4 wheel drive L & K spec model, which pretty much explains why it is less than easily found. I've currently got one and the car drives very well, powerful and quiet but fuel economy is far from good. In milder weather expect low to mid 30's mpg, maybe approaching 40mpg on a longer, slower drive. In winter really cold weather it can start off first thing in the morning below 10mpg and get into the high 20's mpg on my ten minute commute to work, usually hit 30mpg though. I'd think it would do a lot better than that if it wasn't 4 wheel drive, hence most peoples suggestion to look at the 1.2 petrol which should be a more economical car to run.

I think you are having trouble finding a 1.4 petrol for 2 reasons; at the time they were on sale weren’t that popular a choice, so scarce; and those that have them hang onto them, so rarely hit the secondhand market

 

When you do find one advertised likely to go really quickly (unless stupidly overpriced for age/condition).

 

 

Hi AllanDJ,

 

Thanks for the heads up regarding MPG. Being a TOG (tight old git), this has put me right off. I may "bite the bullit" and look for a diesel, (really put of by all the reliability of those that have been "fixed")......or I may stick with my plan B which was to get a later 1.4 Octavia...but they too seem to be as rare as rocking horse ****!!...

 

thanks   

I had an Octavia before the Yeti, wish mine had been the 1.4 petrol too as it might actually have had some value in it at the end of the PCP contract!

 In your position the 2 litre diesel is a no brainer really, just look around and try to find the best car you can for your money. Quite a few online with the likes of Arnold Clark just now, SE spec at least for decent comfort and the runout models the SE Drive and SEL Drive had extra goodies chucked in too plus you get special editions like the Monte Carlo models last year that have a few extras too.

4 hours ago, Stubod said:

Hi AllanDJ,

 

Thanks for the heads up regarding MPG. Being a TOG (tight old git), this has put me right off. I may "bite the bullit" and look for a diesel, (really put of by all the reliability of those that have been "fixed")......or I may stick with my plan B which was to get a later 1.4 Octavia...but they too seem to be as rare as rocking horse ****!!...

 

thanks   

 

1.4 Octavia are much easier to find, there are currently over 240 (2015 on) on sale on autotrader, about half are manual and half DSG 

 

But only 10 Yeti currently listed with 1.4 petrol engines

 

The smaller Rapid has more than twice the availability of a Yeti with 1.4tsi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As said, if the 1.4 petrol had been made available below L&K spec. and 2WD it would be a no brainer and I reckon they would have sold well.

 

I do less than 10k. a year, commute 20 miles each way 3 days a week, only wanted 2WD but fancied another diesel so went for the 2.0 110 BHP.

 

On shorter journeys the MPG. is good but on longer runs it’s easily into the 50s. I like the effortless nature of the diesel. Give it a good run every week or so and it should be fine.

Once I finish work completely it will be a petrol though and fortunately the Karoq (probable choice so far) has the 1.5 petrol across the range which will be ideal.

Don’t know if your budget can stretch to it, but if you can (and you do go for diesel) go for the latest Euro 6 engines (around May 2014 onwards) as you don’t have to worry about engines ruined by the fix.

 

 

Hui Vag, and thanks for the info. I did not realise cars after 2014 are "post fix"...I may add them to my search as i am generally looking at cars under 3 years old. It does surprise me that most 2.0 diesels are only 110 hp, but I guess they should have good enough torque to tow with?

Studbod,

the 110bhp diesel has 250N/m or torque, sufficient for towing a trailer or lightweight van. What are you planning to tow?

 

Colin

Hi eriba,

 

We currently have a "small" caravan (Compass Lynx), which my 1.4tsi Octavia (122hp..) tows "OK 'ish". I am planning to "upgrade" to a slightly larger 2 berth caravan..probably around 1200kg?....

Stubod,

with the 1.4tsi the weight would not be an issue, but I'm afraid to say I think the frontal area of your normal van may prove to be a problem. I would be thinking of a diesel, although I hope others out there may have better news for you.

 

Colin

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eribaMotters

I have had the "fix" done and in 3yrs of ownership have experienced no related issues to dpf egr etc.

Umm what is the fix your all mentioning? 

 

I've my heart set on a 4x4, and have no interest in the 1.2 petrol, though I appreciate the sentiment.

I know the 1.4 petrol 4x4 was a limited-ish run, and only in the L&K spec but as one of my unequivocal requirements is a heated windscreen (I've lived without it for 4 years and that been 4 years too long..) I can live with that, but that does put me looking at a small segment of the yeti range (just currently out of reach, with my savings).

I'll keep on saving, but am being drawn towards those diesels, and I'm not seeing the kick back about diesel motors you find on my other (non-motoring) forums (or the ruination of the environment), so I will be looking at them closer.

First  year and 6000 miles in my 1.4 L&K got 38mpg - rural driving ( no city and little  built up areas). Motorway get ~43mpg.

Would have gone for  2WD 1.2 but getting the spec I wanted meant there wasnt much difference in getting the 1.4L&K on PCH.

On ‎31‎/‎12‎/‎2017 at 20:34, Stubod said:

Hui Vag, and thanks for the info. I did not realise cars after 2014 are "post fix"...I may add them to my search as i am generally looking at cars under 3 years old. It does surprise me that most 2.0 diesels are only 110 hp, but I guess they should have good enough torque to tow with?

Sorry should have said 2015, was getting mixed up with the TT! But basically just look for Euro 6 cars that have an Adblue tank in the boot which is easy to refill - plenty of threads on here.

 

I haven't looked at the market recently and am also surprised that most are 110BHP. I guess like me many owners wanted 2WD and you can't have that with the 140/150/170 versions, if you were able to I would have gone for the 150. There is also a 110 4WD but there aren't many around as the extra weight of the 4 wheel drive takes the edge off the performance.

 

Folks do tow with the 110BHP but must admit if I was towing a caravan I'd have bought a 150 4WD which also has the advantage of a six speed box. For some mad reason the 110 2WD only has a five speed box. Others think it is fine (and for most of the time it is for me) but on some occasions I find the gaps between the ratios a little too large. The fuel consumption would be even better than it already is as well. 

Hi Vag and thanks for the update...does "ad blu" mean no dpf problems?...

6 hours ago, z1ppy said:

Umm what is the fix your all mentioning? 

 

I've my heart set on a 4x4, and have no interest in the 1.2 petrol, though I appreciate the sentiment.

I know the 1.4 petrol 4x4 was a limited-ish run, and only in the L&K spec but as one of my unequivocal requirements is a heated windscreen (I've lived without it for 4 years and that been 4 years too long..) I can live with that, but that does put me looking at a small segment of the yeti range (just currently out of reach, with my savings).

I'll keep on saving, but am being drawn towards those diesels, and I'm not seeing the kick back about diesel motors you find on my other (non-motoring) forums (or the ruination of the environment), so I will be looking at them closer.

The requirement for a heated windscreen is really going to limit your options. Even if going for diesel, as you know it was only available as standard on the L&K.  Some folks did spec. it on other models but probably only on quite a small percentage of sales.

 

I would have specced it but bought my car from stock. Next car will have it though even though I will have retired and won't quite have the same need on some mornings!

17 minutes ago, Stubod said:

Hi Vag and thanks for the update...does "ad blu" mean no dpf problems?...

Well no one can say there will be no problems but it's around 2 1/2 years since the Euro 6/Adblue cars were introduced and I haven't read of any problems so far.

 

They still regenerate now and then as designed for but the big plus is that unlike the Euro 5 cars which have had the fix with the result that the EGR (exhaust gas valve) is now working overtime and there are more frequent regenerations, with the Euro 6 cars the exhaust emissions are further cleaned up by the Adblue being injected into the exhaust system and the EGR and DPF are working as they were designed to do.

 

I thank my lucky stars that I delayed buying a Yeti (luck not planned!) and that when I did buy the Euro 6 was out and that was despite moaning about the hassle of refilling the Adblue which was in practice unfounded. 

Edited 1 January, 20188 yr by VAGCF