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How come our Fabia vRS tops out at 110.Is it electronically limited like an M5/RS4?

Out of diesel? Needs a service? Less pies at dinner time? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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Oh dear. There's an awful lot of nonsense (and some correct stuff) on here...

Newton's 2nd Law can be expressed as follows:

Force=mass x acceleration,

so,

acceleration=force/mass

torque can be thought of as rotational force, *but* you have to factor in the gear ratio. i.e wheels turning slower than the engine raises the effective torque at the wheels and vice versa. (remember, Diesels are geared higher than similarly powerful petrols)

At a given point in time and assuming that the 'torque' (geared up or down), can be *applied* to the road. NB. engines don't produce maximum torque at all rpm.

acceleration='torque'/mass

From Newton's First Law:

An object will accelerate until the 'force' propelling it is matched by the 'force' trying to slow it down. e.g Gravity, air resistance etc.

Power= Torque x speed.

Generally, the highest gear will allow the maximum speed at around maximum power, although if the highest gear reduces the torque too much the power applied to the wheels will be insufficient to allow it to travel faster than in a lower gear.

Whatever powers your vehicle, whether that is diesel, petrol, lpg, electricity, rocket (with a few more calcs to determine the 'power' :) )

2 similar cars with similar power (or torque as applied to the road) will perform in a similar way.

Hence the VAG TDI 150 and 1.8T 150 covering the ground at a similar rate, albeit with different torque-speed characteristics.

I'd be surprised if a Fabia vRS was faster in a straight line than a Bugatti Veyron.

ps. I've baited the incredibly proud Fabia drivers on here before and they usually bite ;)

Oh dear. There's an awful lot of nonsense (and some correct stuff) on here...

Newton's 2nd Law can be expressed as follows:

Force=mass x acceleration' date='

so,

acceleration=force/mass

torque can be thought of as rotational force, *but* you have to factor in the gear ratio. i.e wheels turning slower than the engine raises the effective torque at the wheels and vice versa. (remember, Diesels are geared higher than similarly powerful petrols)

At a given point in time and assuming that the 'torque' (geared up or down), can be *applied* to the road. NB. engines don't produce maximum torque at all rpm.

acceleration='torque'/mass

From Newton's First Law:

An object will accelerate until the 'force' propelling it is matched by the 'force' trying to slow it down. e.g Gravity, air resistance etc.

Power= Torque x speed.

Generally, the highest gear will allow the maximum speed at around maximum power, although if the highest gear reduces the torque too much the power applied to the wheels will be insufficient to allow it to travel faster than in a lower gear.

Whatever powers your vehicle, whether that is diesel, petrol, lpg, electricity, rocket (with a few more calcs to determine the 'power' :) )

2 similar cars with similar power (or torque as applied to the road) will perform in a similar way.

Hence the VAG TDI 150 and 1.8T 150 covering the ground at a similar rate, albeit with different torque-speed characteristics.

[/quote']YES MR SPOCK ! ;)

GEEK or unique?

You cant argue with physics.

You cant argue with physics.

You can argue with anything, you just look a prize donut ;)

Chris

GEEK or unique?

:cool:

what about wind speed, rotation of the earth, height above Sea level,

rotation round the sun, and centre of our Galaxy, they all need to be taken into account if your wanting an accurate reading of the speed :P

oh yeah and driving into the sun and away from the sun

The Sun's Photons will slow you down or speed you up

hehehehe

oh yeah and the Temperature, humidity, road surface

does your car not have a rear view mirror??? They work both ways you know!!

I tried this this morning (just picking on random slow cars I could keep up with :rofl:) and the only time I could see the driver in his rear view mirror was when I was queueing in traffic and even then, I couldn't see their expression, only their eyes! :confused:

Chris

Perhaps the Scoob in question was fitted with an extra large, wide angle projector mirror ?

I was trying hard to resist commenting on that, Chris - glad you got there first.

Brings back memories of the S2000 driver that "was really trying, you could see it in his face" (presumably he had the roof down and kept looking over his shoulder)

yeah yeah, well he did keep looking in the mirror to see if I was still there, so I assume he was slightly puzzled and would have looked so if I could see his expression.... and before you say it, i shouldn't assume because it makes an *** of U and ME!

But anyway, remapped Fabias are bloomin quick for the money!

As I'm posting, the dealership I work at has a used Octavia 4x4 estate in, in white which has been an 'ambulance' according to the v5. This car is seriuosly quick (quicker than an Octy vRS). Does anyone know if there was such thing as a Police or Ambulance spec with a different motor, as it all looks standard to the techies in the workshop, but the performance is making us all look PUZZLED!!!

Perhaps the Scoob in question was fitted with an extra large' date=' wide angle projector mirror ?

[/quote']

maybe an aftermarket bathroom mirror mod...?

is there a big difference between a revo remap and an amd one-click? the video evidence would seem to suggest that a wrx would whoop a one-clicked'd fabia :rubchin:

;)

  • 4 weeks later...
Oh, so it's you, you swine! :handshke:

Takes a bow :)

A remapped Fabia VRS would give a good accounting of itself if "playing" with an Impre(t)za WRX on the road with other cars around.

Main reason is no-lag, instant grunt and go... On cruise, the Impreza won't be in a part of the power band where instant acceleration is necessarily available. Yes, he could drop it down the box but the turbo still needs time to speed up.

J.

Main reason is no-lag, instant grunt and go... On cruise, the Impreza won't be in a part of the power band where instant acceleration is necessarily available. Yes, he could drop it down the box but the turbo still needs time to speed up.

My classic didn't need time for the turbo to speed up. Drop it down a gear and plant the throttle and the Scooby would fly ... and keep flying ;)

The Fabia vRS I drove had serious lag up until 2k rpm so if I was cruising in that (revs under 2k rpm for better mpg), it would be in exactly the same situation..... :D

Chris

A standard WRX 01 bugeye is no quicker on a straight from a rolling start than my vRS. But in the following:

corners

top speed

standing start

track

It is a lot faster, dont be fooled into thinking even a remapped vrs can match a WRX and certainly not a PPP or STi.

Jeez, even my brothers 172 cup can make light work of my Fabia. Admittadly with no back seats and a hillpower induction kit.

A standard WRX 01 bugeye is no quicker on a straight from a rolling start than my vRS. But in the following:

corners

top speed

standing start

track

.

True.And the whole reason why as an everyday straight road package it (fabia) whoops tons of cars.

Where else can you show the skills of your sports car and its grip on corners apart from on a track?

Makes you wonder why people plod around at 18 mpg in an impreza for everyday use.

Accelerating away from cars in a straight line(within all appropriate speed limits:rolleyes: ) is more fun

Accelerating away from cars in a straight line(within all appropriate speed limits:rolleyes: ) is more fun

Not sure about where you live, but we have lots of corners down our way :rofl: My Scooby averaged 27mpg and very little of it's life was spent plodding ;) Overtaking cars on nice sweeping bends and leaving them behind "in the twisties" is much more fun than straight line accelerating, imho :D

Chris

Not sure about where you live' date=' but we have lots of corners down our way :rofl: My Scooby averaged 27mpg and very little of it's life was spent plodding ;) Overtaking cars on nice sweeping bends and leaving them behind "in the twisties" is much more fun than straight line accelerating, imho :D

Chris[/quote']

:D

No one chases people in the 'twisties' though.Unless you overtake a 182 or another impreza:D

Most people think they are king of the quick burst on the straight and it is nice to surprise them.

Not that I don't want an Impreza,I'm just not allowed one::thumbdwn: :D

  • 2 weeks later...
My classic didn't need time for the turbo to speed up. Drop it down a gear and plant the throttle and the Scooby would fly ... and keep flying ;)

The Fabia vRS I drove had serious lag up until 2k rpm so if I was cruising in that (revs under 2k rpm for better mpg)' date=' it would be in exactly the same situation..... :D

Chris[/quote']

I s'pose if you're talking about UK cars, especially cars with a decat, then OK, zero(ish) lag.

On mine, the turbo starts boosting from somewhere north of 3K rpm. In a race on the track, I'm sure my Fabia wouldn't see which way it went but real world, I could easily be caught out unless I caught a whiff of something in the air beforehand.

Also, I like my gearbox too much to do standing starts on warm, dry tarmac with 18s and F1 GSD3s.... and it still whines :(

J.

On a track? I reckon mine would be a very good match for a Scoob, be it PPP or otherwise - must give it a go sometime ;)

And it ain't as quick as my old 1.4 16v was :D

Was thinking more of the Scoobs.

Oh and the Focus is actually used in the Castle Combe race series :(

Was thinking more of the Scoobs.

It was funny when I was handed that mag. Pointed out to my Manager (owns a scooby best thing on the planet type person) that a humble flat cap diesel skoda was kicking ****.

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