Hi everyone I thought I would ask on here to see if anyone has come across the  problem I have with my Scoda . When I opened my boot  a couple days ago my horn was going off and hazards and same  eveytime I closed the boot .Next day my window wipers would not turn off so I took it to a garage near by not Scoda. When I turned up the mechanic noticed an earth wire in on the top of my boot was in half so thought that was the problem they were too busy so was going to book in . On starting my car to drive off the horn sounded and would not turn off along with the hazards and the central locking was going on and off all at once . So had to leave it there as was impossible to drive as could not turn anything off. Got a phone call saying they think it could be the control box and will order one next morning . Today I got a call to say they had to manually connect box back up and for some reason now the speedo do not work or the central locking !! It has cost £448.00 but car is still not right . The garage said they cant programme it anymore so not I am going to have to put it in Scoda which I do not mind but nearly £500 so far I am a bit concerned this could run into many hundreds . Has anyone ever had this problem ? I loved this car when I got it a year ago and maintain it so but clueless to whats happened . My 12 volt supply do not work any more either bizarre .

 

Many thanks 

Edited 20 March, 20188 yr by deflated

Hi Deflated,

What year is your Roomster, when was it built? It's a Skoda BTW, not a Scoda.

Mine is nearly 11 years old, I had a problem about a year ago, hatchback lock wouldn't engage, whilst all other doors locked.

 

Quite a number of us owners of older Roomsters have had assorted faults that stem from broken wires within the gaiter that carries wires and screenwash pipe from the NSR body pillar to the hatch/bootlid.

 

I don't understand electrics, gather there's something nowadays called a canbus that shares electrical messages around the car, and can/does affect more circuits than those that have broken within the gaiter.   This set of wires, and that in the similar arrangement feeding the driver's door, are flexed the most on most cars, being opened/closed more than any other doors. 

 

If your garage has already found one broken wire, there may be several more either broken, or whose insulation has already broken. They may well be the next ones to break. If this is the case, my local garageman did temporary repair by soldering in and then insulation-taping new bits of suitable copper wire. This made the hatch lockable, and I then searched online and found an excellently-made repair kit, which I ordered and paid for online from a firm in Germany.

 

The link is http://www.sencom-kabeltechnik.de/shop#/SenCom-Kabelbaum-Reparatursatz-Skoda-Roomster-5J-Heckklappe/p/4100071/category=10608070

 

I hope I copied all that down correctly; the vital Sencom part number ("Artikelnummer") is SKU 888913, there's a picture of the kit on their website. 

I got mine 27th April 2017, price then was 58.67 euros, which equated to £49.51; there was a 9.90 euros Post & Packing charge quoted, but they didn't charge me that, so I'm guessing this is older stock that they're glad to shift!

 

The kit is beautifully made, the soft new wires all come with crimpable connectors at both ends of the new gaiter, the hose has push-fit connectors, my garageman found it easy to fit;  the wiring colours are different from Skoda's, but there's a chart supplied to explain what colour does what.   I gather he carefully cut the old gaiter away first, to expose the old bundle of wires and hose, then connected the new stuff one wire at a time.  I haven't got my car logbook to hand, but recall the labour bill to do the temp repair, and then fit the kit about a week later, was around £50, I can check and update you tomorrow. So around the £100 mark all-in.   And no further electrical gremlins since!

Let us know how you get on; towards £500 sounds a rip-off...

HTH

Richard.

 

Hi Richard 

Thanks for responding . It’s a 2010 Reg . Scoda roomster 1.6tdi scout. Interesting read sounds similar . They have changed control box now which got rid of the horn hazards flashing and central locking locking and unlocking . But now new problems . The garage says it locks but won’t unlock . The Speedo does not work either ! Which is did before ? I am going to take to scoda today as I don’t think they know what to do the garage I am at now . Will phone them and let them know to check the wires more .Defintly sounds like another broken wire somewhere . Will keep you posted later on today see what they find . Kind regards Michelle 

Hi just to let anyone know whi was reading this and has suffered the same with there roomster . Mine was main control unit in the end . Had an Earth wire split in boot which caused a spark to kill my control unit . Just under 600 later all done . Had to replace control unit and have everything retuned back in . Computers and new cars today .Bring back simple cars !!

Hi Michelle,

Sorry for delay responding, been away looking after a friend recovering from a fall..

Wow, you've been very unlucky there, bet you are feeling financially deflated, not heard of the broken hatch gaiter wires doing so much collateral damage, ouch!

Yes, definitely worth getting the other hatch gaiter wires checked carefully. On mine, a 2007 car, we found one snapped and several with insulation already split.

Thanks for keeping us all posted.

Richard.

Edited 26 March, 20188 yr by RichardatWakefield
Add name.

Glad I found this thread.  My Roomster is making random beeping noises and even makes the odd one now when locked up! Will investigate or get son to investigate wiring looms.  Hope it sorts it out.  Fed up of getting strange looks while driving! and unsure of damage it could cause long term

Thank you.

Did you get this sorted Angelita?

 

When you say random beeping noises, is it the horn?

 

Some Skoda models have a feature that beeps inside the car to alert the driver that the battery is dying, although it would be unlikely to hear it as the car is being driven, and therefore charging the battery. It is more for when the car is turned off and the ignition is left on, or the radio / interior lights etc. slowly draining the battery.

Hi there, no I haven't got it sorted. 

 

It is the horn, I think but not absolutely sure.  Had an incident at the end of July while driving to Wales.  No rain so can't blame the water.  Noise got more and more and then the alarm came on while I was driving.  Not a great experience!  After not being driven for the weekend it was okay on the way home.

 

It's been quiet since but started beeping again today after the rain.  I suspect loose wires or uncovered ones - just need to find them and cover them up, I think.  Work in progress.

 

Will update here when it's completely sorted.

On 24/08/2018 at 20:43, Angelita said:

Hi there, no I haven't got it sorted. 

 

It is the horn, I think but not absolutely sure.  Had an incident at the end of July while driving to Wales.  No rain so can't blame the water.  Noise got more and more and then the alarm came on while I was driving.  Not a great experience!  After not being driven for the weekend it was okay on the way home.

 

It's been quiet since but started beeping again today after the rain.  I suspect loose wires or uncovered ones - just need to find them and cover them up, I think.  Work in progress.

 

Will update here when it's completely sorted.

It's not the horn but the alarm.  Very sharp loud noise! After the rain last couple of days it's doing it all the time just now.  Need to get some investigation done urgently

 

On 20/03/2018 at 23:30, RichardatWakefield said:

Hi Deflated,

What year is your Roomster, when was it built? It's a Skoda BTW, not a Scoda.

Mine is nearly 11 years old, I had a problem about a year ago, hatchback lock wouldn't engage, whilst all other doors locked.

 

Quite a number of us owners of older Roomsters have had assorted faults that stem from broken wires within the gaiter that carries wires and screenwash pipe from the NSR body pillar to the hatch/bootlid.

  

I don't understand electrics, gather there's something nowadays called a canbus that shares electrical messages around the car, and can/does affect more circuits than those that have broken within the gaiter.   This set of wires, and that in the similar arrangement feeding the driver's door, are flexed the most on most cars, being opened/closed more than any other doors. 

 

If your garage has already found one broken wire, there may be several more either broken, or whose insulation has already broken. They may well be the next ones to break. If this is the case, my local garageman did temporary repair by soldering in and then insulation-taping new bits of suitable copper wire. This made the hatch lockable, and I then searched online and found an excellently-made repair kit, which I ordered and paid for online from a firm in Germany.

 

The link is http://www.sencom-kabeltechnik.de/shop#/SenCom-Kabelbaum-Reparatursatz-Skoda-Roomster-5J-Heckklappe/p/4100071/category=10608070

 

I hope I copied all that down correctly; the vital Sencom part number ("Artikelnummer") is SKU 888913, there's a picture of the kit on their website. 

I got mine 27th April 2017, price then was 58.67 euros, which equated to £49.51; there was a 9.90 euros Post & Packing charge quoted, but they didn't charge me that, so I'm guessing this is older stock that they're glad to shift!

 

The kit is beautifully made, the soft new wires all come with crimpable connectors at both ends of the new gaiter, the hose has push-fit connectors, my garageman found it easy to fit;  the wiring colours are different from Skoda's, but there's a chart supplied to explain what colour does what.   I gather he carefully cut the old gaiter away first, to expose the old bundle of wires and hose, then connected the new stuff one wire at a time.  I haven't got my car logbook to hand, but recall the labour bill to do the temp repair, and then fit the kit about a week later, was around £50, I can check and update you tomorrow. So around the £100 mark all-in.   And no further electrical gremlins since!

Let us know how you get on; towards £500 sounds a rip-off...

HTH

Richard.

 

Hi Richard is the repair kit you found for the boot or for the driver's door please?  Have found it on the website but can't tell if it's for the driver's door which is what I think I need.  Thank you

Angelita xx

Hi Angelita,

Just had to do the driver's door wiring on my 2007 Roomster, Sencom don't seem to offer this, so local DM Keith parts counter, wiring loom/harness, part number 5J0971120AN, £99.13 plus £60 labour to fit, local garage. Quite a faff to fit, its a complex loom.

Did get a sencom repair kit, but had to post it back to Germany, has the big connector and gaiter, but insufficient wires, so probably for passenger door.

HTH. Richard.

I've done this on my 57 plate Roomster. It's not that hard to replace the door loom. Basically it's remove the door card, drill the 4 speaker rivets out. Unplug the old loom from the A Piller, the gator unclips from the top on the A Pillar and all the door items it connects to. Replace with the new loom, re-rivet the speaker back. Fit the door card back on with new clips, as the old clips break when you pull the door card off. It must of taken me about 2 hours max as a 1st attempt but honestly nothing is that involved and it all just unplugs and plugs on.

I would recommend you order the loom part number as written on the current loom tag. There are a few different part numbers.

 

Good work Aubrey, you have more confidence than me with electrics!

New driver door loom part number is:-

5J0 971 120 AN.

£99.13 from local Skoda dealer.

And good news, Sencom have refunded me the full £77.26 cost of what turned out to be not the right repair kit.

All door electrics working fine (though haven't yet checked the heated mirrors function......)

There are different loom part numbers depending on electric mirrors, rear electric windows and build year variants.

 

Look at all the different item 1 part numbers here

https://skoda.7zap.com/en/cz/roomster/ro/2007-481/9/971-972035/

 

I got the wrong loom first attempt because my 57 Roomster was built right on the 04/11/2007 changeover date. The electric window motor changes between 1 and 2 plugs. My loom was the later BQ version with 1 window motor connector and front/rear electric windows. Your AN version is the earlier version with 2 motor plugs and I think only front electric windows (that web sites descriptions are not too clear), has your car got manual rear windows ?

 

By just ordering the part number already on the white wrap on label on the currently fitted loom then it must be correct. 

 

I was driving for a week with no door card, unable to open any windows and opening my driver's door by pulling on the cable end you see coming from the door lock in my above photo. After a week the new loom fitted perfectly and I could fully replace it all.

 

Edited 29 August, 20187 yr by aubrey
Updated some more

Aha, excellent points there, Aubrey, yes mine is June 07 build and "2" trim, manual rear windows. DM Keith took my reg number and ordered on the basis of that info, which brought the correct loom.

Cheers for your detailed responses, and I still haven't a clue how you all post pictures here!

Hi there it's me again! 

Lovely son had a look at wiring loom at the weekend and could find no obvious breaks between car and door.  Is it common for the break to be inside the door itself?  Car is still beeping!  Very annoying too!  Considering removing wiring loom to see if noise stops.

 

thanks

Angelita xx

The wires break where they bend. Inside the rubber gaitor between door and A Pillar. The same for the hatchback loom. These are my inside gaitor wires. My fault was windows stopped working and door led locked flashing led didn't work. All door problems.

But reading your original problem, I've never read about anyone having horn and hazard problems due to these looms. They normally cause window and door lock issues.

So nothing wrong in gently pushing the release catch at the top of each door gaitor on the body side and having a look for broken wires or broken core insulation which causes shorts. But be careful your original problem would not direct me to investigating door and hatchback looms, except for one important point you made in when the fault occurs. When the hatchback is opened. I would be very suspicious of the area that causes the problem.

Interesting statement you make about removing the loom to see if the problem goes away. They do just plug onto the body side. In my photo here the loom is unplugged. You can see the plug on the left. That yellow handle on the plug locks and releases the connection. The hatchback loom doesn't unplug at the body, it must be just inside but I've never unplugged it so I don't know exactly where. Has to be behind C Pillar trim at a guess. I have had exposed cores with breaking insulation in the hatchback loom. But I fixed those issues by soldering and insulating the original cores.

 

Edited 30 August, 20187 yr by aubrey
Added a bit more

Thanks Aubrey.  Really helpful posts.

Angelita xx