@vrskeith  I have one just now in orange.  Loaned for a week and i am treating it with great care.  

Covered over 630 miles with it on 3 full to 100% charges and one to 80% and it has over 150 mile range just now.  All charges have been free.

Just now, Roottootemblowinootsoot said:

@vrskeith  I have one just now in orange.  Loaned for a week and i am treating it with great care.  

Covered over 630 miles with it on 3 full to 100% charges and one to 80% and it has over 150 mile range just now.  All charges have been free.

George,

Enjoy! Ongoing review awaited with baited breath.

Which Journalist will it be getting a poor range out of the same car while others do quite well.

I do wonder if any of them have bothered checking what the tyre pressures are at, or taken the car to a weigh bridge.

 

I find it so odd that reviewers talk about the change in throttle response when the mode has you getting different torque and ps equivalent.

80 / 110/136 ps

As to the cost of a 3 pin charger.  I paid £240 for a good one which was less than half what Vauxhall wanted, not that they had any in stock or knew when they would have any available.

 

 

 

Edited 1 July, 20205 yr by Roottootemblowinootsoot

The change in power with mode setting. Can you set to 80 PS eco mode and still access 136 PS via kickdown?

 

In Leaf, set eco mode reserves the last 2 power to kickdown. I drive in this mode because I like the throttle control for lower power, but use kickdown quite a lot.

@wyx087

Yes, you just potter around in an empty car except for yourself at low power as though in a 80ps petrol and if you floor the accelerator you have 136ps / 260 Nm.

Same in Normal.   But on light throttle it is like a lower powered petrol. 

In Sport response is sharper at all speeds and just blipping the throttle. Steering sharper as well.

 

Carry passengers and weight in the boot and 80ps / ECO feels like a 60ps N/A Fabia loaded because it is a heavy car.

 

The Heavier Unladen Peugeot e-2008./ DS 3 E-Tense & likely the Mokka Electric even more so.

 

These reviewers really need to put people or weight in these cars and try them.

Fold the seats down and load 400kg in the car maybe.

 

** On back roads, hills and glens and driving like a warm hatch, in Sport, point and squirt and stick in B, or between Drive & back to B and you can get as good a range as in ECO.  Much like driving a DSG quickly. Throttle to get a move on and gears to slow and no touching the brake pedal.**

 

There is one reviewer on youtube that seems to be taking the huff at me questioning how he is reviewing EV cars and showing the dash with the car in ECO but he says he was not using it in ECO.

They do need to check the cars weight, check the tyres, and comment on A/C on or not, heated seats / steering wheel etc 

as all they seem to do is go on about Motorways and talking in general terms.

 

It is like when they pick up a ICE vehicle from a Manufacturer.

They should run the tank empty, fill with a fuel like 95 unleaded or standard diesel, so that they know the car never came with Super Unleaded or Premium Diesel and higher pressure inflated tyres.

Edited 2 July, 20205 yr by Roottootemblowinootsoot

Renault Zoe for me........

 

 

https://www.renaultretail.co.uk/new-renault-cars/renault-zoe/  

What makes ZOE so special?

• Driving Range (WLTP*)Up to 245 miles
• Free Home Charging**9-10 hours
• Quick Charging†30 mins
• Charge your ZOE anywhereOver 9000 public Locations
• Max Speed135 mph

@lol-lol I assume the person doing the website mixed up the 135 PS and 135MPH Max Speed. 

 Unless that is Vmax speed when falling off a cliff.

 

87mph = 140 km/h

93mph = 150 km/h

135mph =217km/h

Edited 3 July, 20205 yr by Roottootemblowinootsoot

 

1 hour ago, Roottoot said:

@lol-lol I assume the person doing the website mixed up the 135 PS and 135MPH Max Speed. 

 Unless that is Vmax speed when falling off a cliff.

 

87mph = 140 km/h

93mph = 150 km/h

135mph =217km/h

 

 

135 kph might be its true top speed as I was playing with a new ZE50 in my Dacia TCE 90 and mid 80s seem to be it top wack and it was not great at climbing hills with all that weight.  

 

Still my EV of choice at present but more at home on the A roads and city streets.  

 

 

@lol-lol  Bit of a ****-up on a Renault site though.

45 minutes ago, Roottoot said:

@lol-lol  Bit of a ****-up on a Renault site though.

 

Just a slip up forgetting ye olde Imperial system rather than System Internaional units being pervasive.

Maybe some Motoring Journalist might catch onto the cars they are driving needing a software update or having had it done.

 

Do the Peugeot's and the DS EV's need a Software Update of cars already registered and new ones that are being held back the same as the Vauxhall and are PSA being a bit shy in actually saying why and what for?

Dealership staff can not say, but are going to have to find out and come clean on what it is all about.

 

So she has a car more expensive of 2 e-Corsa trims on 17" wheels / tyres, Matrix headlights,  with a 10" screen, privacy rear glass, heated front seats, steering wheel and electric windows front and rear.

He has one of the 2 cheaper of 4 trims for a e-208, so on 16" wheels / tyres, no heated seats, or steering wheel or electric rear windows and whatever sparse trim he might have bothered to check out.

 

The regen braking is designed/ engineered to be just were it can be before the rear brake lights would not need to come on.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 5 July, 20205 yr by Roottoot

'They' are all getting the same car to drive, so time will tell how that car lasts...   Still waiting for any to mention if they checked the tyre pressures before commenting on the handling.

Plus the pressure will affect the range, like putting people and stuff in the car.

(No 11kW charger available yet, or maybe they would be getting to drive one.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

She will just have made an error with the 0-30 which should be 2.9 seconds and not 3.9

 

 

 

Edited 25 July, 20205 yr by Roottoot

@Roottoot you got yournew corsa yet?Saw a post in an EV group earliertonight of one being delovered here in Livingston today

 

@domhnall

My car is still sitting at the dealers 1 mile away not registered, it came off a transporter last Tuesday after being 'Lost in space' since it was caught in transit at the day lock down happened and nobody released it after lock down was lifted.

I have had the use of a demonstrator and have been treating it with great care.

Edited 3 August, 20205 yr by Roottoot

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/advertising-promotion/promoted-how-honda-e-reshaping-electric-cars-future

 

https://dennis.slgnt.eu/optiext/optiextension.dll?ID=KghKhmEL2EhhLdfDIVASJYph3TSQvf19UXiEFldPaEMaO%2B%2B0SRBaZPxMJyesl4onW87cDhvIC%2B88A2YAjX%2BdMGmPzL88o

Edited 26 July, 20205 yr by vrskeith

 

Autoexpress verdict.......................................

Vauxhall Corsa-e vs Renault Zoe

Vauxhall breaks new ground with the electric Corsa-e supermini, but is it good enough to beat the Renault Zoe?  https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/electric-cars/352881/vauxhall-corsa-e-vs-renault-zoe

 

Verdict

First place: Renault Zoe

37

It's bigger battery means more range, and while the Zoe is slightly slower, there’s more than enough go. It lacks the Corsa’s greater charging capability, but 50kW compatibility is still good. The Renault packs more practicality and tech, lower running costs (although not by much), greater quality and more space at a similar price, so the Zoe proves yet again why it’s our favourite compact EV. 

Second place: Vauxhall Corsa-e

37

The Corsa-e is a solid all-electric debut from Vauxhall. Its range is respectable, it has excellent charging capability, and it’s quick and agile, but it’s not as comfortable as the Zoe and nor is the tech as advanced. It’s slightly less efficient yet will still be incredibly affordable to run, but the Vauxhall’s lack of quality and practicality does stand out when compared to the Zoe.

@lol-lol

The Zoe certainly has more room and softer suspension than the e-Corsa & you do sit higher. 

The Autoexpress reviewer is one that never bothered to answer in the Youtube comments if he checked the tyre pressures of that Media Car before commenting on the ride.

 

From the Youtube review i found the comment on discounting 'Sport Mode'  because it would impact on range very strange.

What does it matter if you are just out and about and doing nothing more than a 100 odd miles before charging again, 

use the car as you can in Sport if you want and you will be getting further than if in a MINI Electric.

You do need to kick down in ECO to get 136ps because you are running with 80 ps or 110ps in Normal, Normal is what the WLTP is taken from.

(Use Eco or Normal or even Sport and B and you can get the range that is claimed from the WLTP with the Zoe but A/C will need to be off.)

 

I am curious as to what they think the tech is that is more advanced on the Zoe over the e-Corsa.

 

PS

Finally my own EV is First Registered today and getting a PDI.

Done plenty miles in various borrowed EV's including the Zoe and the latest Zoe's R135 rapid charge.

Happy with the choice i made of an EV warm hatch that was really not a necessity.

 

This car on 17/45 R 17's and just a driver and 1,530 kg kerb weigh,  (weigh them!) and no idea what the tyre pressures are at, 

maybe fully pumped up by people handing ove.

Reviewers are not mentioning the SE Nav on 195/55 R 16's *ultra low rolling resistance tyres / crap grip)  and might well ride differently, deal with potholes a bit better if you are not avoiding, and the range if you were to run the 2 vehicles in convoy are not identical.

 

 

 

 

 

Roof bars and bike carrier ordered which will reduce range, and more so with a bike on the roof.

 

 

 

 

Edited 3 August, 20205 yr by Roottoot