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Interesting tread.

Most important is fully synthetic of course the manufacturers recommended viscosity.

I personally would never use other than Mobile1 or Castrol in my cars. 

Never even heard of Quantum and half the junk brands mentioned here. But im not from England so it is understandable.

 

On my motorcycles Castrol and Motul never used other brand and never will. 

 

I have a 12year old Passat Highline Kodiaq is ordered.

My passat only have seen Castrol full Synthetic in it so far 

BMP motor code / diesel.

Never had any problems, I change my oil every 10000km. I do it myself change all the filters as well.

Oil is cheap should not be the thing you save money on.

 

 

 

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  • Welcome. Sorry no idea about these brands you list.   The TSI engines are now leaving the factory with VW 508 00.   0w 20 FS Long life.  Expensive.   No longer the VW504 / 507. (TD

  • None, just paying a crazy price for oil. http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/448200-vw-508-00-oil 

  • VW 502 00 is *Fully Synthetic* oil of the correct spec for TSI engines which are on Fixed Servicing with oil changes @ 9,400 miles /15,000 km or 372 days. http://volkswagen.co.uk/owners/servicing

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17 minutes ago, Acidhburn said:

Interesting tread.

Most important is fully synthetic of course the manufacturers recommended viscosity.

I personally would never use other than Mobile1 or Castrol in my cars. 

Never even heard of Quantum and half the junk brands mentioned here. But im not from England so it is understandable.

 

On my motorcycles Castrol and Motul never used other brand and never will. 

 

I have a 12year old Passat Highline Kodiaq is ordered.

My passat only have seen Castrol full Synthetic in it so far 

BMP motor code / diesel.

Never had any problems, I change my oil every 10000km. I do it myself change all the filters as well.

Oil is cheap should not be the thing you save money on.

 

 

 

Here is a slightly out of date list of “ approved” oils...

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4651369/List_of_Volkswagen_Approved_Oi

There you go!

TY.

My oil is on the list! 😃

2 hours ago, Acidhburn said:

I personally would never use other than Mobile1 or Castrol in my cars. 

Never even heard of Quantum and half the junk brands mentioned here. But im not from England so it is understandable.

 

The "junk" oil you mentioned, Quantum, is VAG's own branded oil. Until recently is was manufactured by Castrol, more recently Fuch's.

 

It's an expensive Castrol branded container you're paying for, as often that's the only difference.

12 hours ago, xman said:

 

 

 

When you were chatting to the master tech, was he not able to substantiate his claims, with any official Skoda documentation?

 

What did Skoda UK say, did they side with the dealer and confirm VW 502.00 is suitable for the 1.4 TSI on fixed service intervals?

VW 502 so 5w 40 FS is perfectly suitable for Fixed Service intervals with a 1.4 TSI / 1.4 TFSI be they Euro 5 or euro 6 and ACT / COD or not ACT / COD 

(If someone at Skoda UK Customer Services says otherwise then they are so wrong.)

 

& this is for Variable / Flexible Servicing.   

Then the bottom diagram an oldie but a goldie. 

Pre VW 508 / 509 days of 0w 20 FS IV

 

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43 minutes ago, silver1011 said:

 

The "junk" oil you mentioned, Quantum, is VAG's own branded oil. Until recently is was manufactured by Castrol, more recently Fuch's.

 

It's an expensive Castrol branded container you're paying for, as often that's the only difference.

I understand your point only problem with it you can never be sure what cheap oil VAG buy and put in it. And you pay premium price for who knows what.

The Castrol container in the other hand is what it says on it.

 

" It's an expensive Castrol branded container you're paying for, as often that's the only difference. "

You are correct!

VW put in what ever it is that they buy at the factories, and as for Castrol it really is nothing special.

As it is German Cars have the highest failure rates out of Warranty and French Manufacturers can recommend TOTAL, and Japanese or South Korean Mobile.

Just now, Roottootemblowinootsoot said:

VW put in what ever it is that they buy at the factories, and as for Castrol it really is nothing special.

As it is German Cars have the highest failure rates out of Warranty and French Manufacturers can recommend TOTAL, and Japanese or South Korean Mobile.

I never said Castrol is the best.

For me it is but for others they use another brand. 

I like pancakes you might not  ;)

I like long lasting engines and consumables, or ones that are going to give reliability. I keep cars for a long time if i own and am not leasing.

VW Group care about as long as a Manufacturers Warranty lasts.  So i do not use their recommended oil or spark plugs.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/476057-vag-independent-uses-fusch-oils

 

 

 

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Fuchs / Quantum is manufactured in the UK too.

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On 15/05/2018 at 13:40, Roottootemblowinootsoot said:

Welcome.

Sorry no idea about these brands you list.

 

The TSI engines are now leaving the factory with VW 508 00.   0w 20 FS Long life.  Expensive.   No longer the VW504 / 507.

(TDI's leave with VW509 00)   

To get the WLTP results they need, supposedly better fuel consumption.

 

Maybe the 'best oil' for you if you own your car is not 'Long Life oil' but the Synthetic VW 502 00 that you want 5w 30. 

Do fixed servicing Oil & Filter changes.

 

Skoda / VW recommend 'Long Life' oil for Fixed & Variable servicing. 

That is regardless of how many TSI engines have failed over the years.

Where have you seen skoda tdi engine leaving with vw50900 ?? I have kodiaq 2019 and is written oil vw 50400_50700

@Ion82  Are you in a European Country or one where your Kodiaq required WLTP Certification?

For WLTP and RDE Skoda were using VW509 by 2019.

 

If that is what is on your vehicle for the oil spec then VW507 is what they recommend.

My Kodiaq has the same engine as you.  As I don’t have a Skoda Dealer close to me, I went to a VW dealer to purchase the correct spec Oil for the Engine and was told to buy Castrol Edge 5w30.

19 minutes ago, Gnockoff said:

...and was told to buy Castrol Edge 5w30.

 

Which is fine if it's had its first service already and the dealer put 5W30 in it.

 

If it hasn't then it'll have 0W20 in there.

 

For topping up it won't matter, but it would be better to top up with the same oil if at all possible.

On 27/02/2020 at 20:39, MrTrilby said:


My dealer was more than happy to provide the free services with the car set to variable servicing. First service at about 18k miles; second service at about 36k miles. 

 

Only just read this thread and I'm a tad concerned about that comment.

 

If that's true, and I hope it is, then you've got yourself a real bargain, but if the free servicing you refer to is the same free servicing that Skoda offer as a reduced price with a new car, then my advice would be to double check with your dealer that you know exactly what was agreed. Do you have this in writing?

 

The reason I say that?  First of all you'll find everyone has their own interpretation of VAG servicing ( so expect others to correct me ). 

 

1: The T&C of Skoda's free service offer is that it consists of two services - 1 x oil service  + 1 x oil and Inspection+pollen filter.  Now that equates to a car on fixed service intervals.

 

2: But your car is on a variable service regime, so your first service is due at 2yr or approx 20,000 miles ( whichever is sooner ). The 1st variable service is more or less equal to that oil and Inspection + pollen filter change.

 

3: The 2nd variable service which would be due at 4yr or approx 40,000 miles ( whichever is sooner ) should be same as the 1st variable service but also including a change of spark plugs if it's the TSI or a fuel filter if it's the TDI.  But the garage are effectively doing all that for the price of an oil service?

 

All sounds a bit fishy to me, that's why I'd double check with them. 

 

Furthermore, the free service offer is open throughout the franchased Skoda dealership network - in other words you can have those services carried out at any dealership. I very much doubt other dealers would carry out a 2nd variable for free. Can you guarantee your dealer will be around in 4yr time? Even if the dealership changes hands, then unless you have it in writing, I very much doubt the new owners would honour your 2nd free variable service.

 

Hope that makes sense.

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My local Skoda dealer used Shell Helix Ultra and I used it for one service. The dealership changed hands and Castrol Edge LL was used but the dealer said the contract was up and they probably will use Shell. Currently my local independent uses a Skoda recommended derivative of Comma and that is in mine at the moment. Another local independent uses Fusch oils which is based in Germany. So there you have it there is no set brand to use aslong it meets the Skoda spec. 

13 minutes ago, Scot5 said:

 

Only just read this thread and I'm a tad concerned about that comment.

 

Can you guarantee your dealer will be around in 4yr time? Even if the dealership changes hands, then unless you have it in writing, I very much doubt the new owners would honour your 2nd free variable service.

 

I appreciate the concern, but my car is now on 54k miles - the second free service was carried out a few months ago now, along with a (not free) gearbox oil change. My car is now telling me the next service is due in 1200 miles, and I'm expecting to pay for that one.

Does your second service invoice stipulate what was changed over and above the oil and oil filter i.e air and/or fuel filter?

9 hours ago, silver1011 said:

Does your second service invoice stipulate what was changed over and above the oil and oil filter i.e air and/or fuel filter?


It might do, but we moved house not so long ago and finding the box with the invoice in is not a high priority. When I come across it I’ll try and pop up the list of things that were changed. 

17 hours ago, MrTrilby said:

 

I appreciate the concern, but my car is now on 54k miles - the second free service was carried out a few months ago now, along with a (not free) gearbox oil change. My car is now telling me the next service is due in 1200 miles, and I'm expecting to pay for that one.

 

You've bagged yourself a bargain if it was two variable services but as silver1011 points out, I would have had my concerns.

 

However if it's all been done thru the same Skoda dealer you purchased it from, my assumption is they've serviced it according to the correct schedule. Nice one!

 

Having the 3rd variable done by a franchised dealership is something I've never come across - would be interesing if you could find out what work is involved. I'm guessing the work would be the same as the 1st variable.

 

If it's any help the garages around here were charging something like £220-£230 for a 1st variable. Being the cheapskate I am, I purchased the pollen filter seperately ( because a main dealer charges approx £40 for a £10 filter ).  I think I ended up paying £175 for the service and fitted a pollen filter myself which is a very easy 5min job. Hopefully variable 3 shouldn't be too much money.

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5 hours ago, Scot5 said:

Having the 3rd variable done by a franchised dealership is something I've never come across - would be interesting if you could find out what work is involved. I'm guessing the work would be the same as the 1st variable.

 

I was always on the understanding, that regardless of model / engine that nothing over and above the oil, oil filter and pollen filter were changed on either service interval prior to 3 years / 60,000 miles.

 

So I was on the same wavelength as you, being able to get the second service included on a 2-year service plan when on variable would be a challenge, as the fuel filter or spark plugs and air filter would not be covered under the service plan.

 

I wonder if these additional service items are now not changed until even later, and therefore a second variable service (upto 4 years or 36,000 miles) still only involves oil and an oil filter?

You really need to ask now if a 2nd 24 month service so at 48 months or sooner on a service plan includes any parts other than oil, filter and sump plug and top ups.

ie, Are you even getting things looked at like the air filter box opened. 

Nothing for nothing anymore really with the Fixed Price Servicing at Participating Dealers,  you need to be clear what the Service Plan is giving or is the Tech the one deciding.

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