Hi Guys,

 

I'm not new to diesels - I'm on my second yeti (2.0TDI 4x4 TourDeFrance Edition) - great car but now time to move on. And yes its probably going to be a Karoq - any advice  please?

 

I'm worried about this ad-blu malarky? Whats the cost is it worth keeping the diesel - cant seem to get 1.5 in the specs i want (looking at SCR edition models) - anyone running a 2.0 tdi whats the costs is it cheap - i'm told it wont run without ad-blu - i searched for a thread in case its covered but couldnt find anything. Whats peoples general experience? Guessing my annual mileage is about 18,000 tops

you will get a count down warning from around 1500 miles advising you to re fill tank ,when it gets to low you will get a mesage saying top up now no restart meaning it will run until you turn of but will no re start until tank re filled

thanks @patrolman what kind of costs is the adblu adding - fuel is already expensive enough. How much does a 'tank' hold of adblue? is it every 6000 miles to be filled?

 

any cheap places to buy ad-blu   - i assume you can buy 5 litre cans like screen wash comes in? - lol looks like chem toilet cleaner!

Edited 4 June, 20188 yr by yosser65
added missing parts

We pay about 5£ for 10 liters i Denmark from a fillerstation, cans are more than 3 times that price.

The addblu tank on my workcar ( t6 transporter) holds about 10 liters, thats enough for 7000 km.

10 minutes ago, Michael_DK said:

We pay about 5£ for 10 liters i Denmark from a fillerstation, cans are more than 3 times that price.

The addblu tank on my workcar ( t6 transporter) holds about 10 liters, thats enough for 7000 km.

i have a t6 all so and get about the same

My car has done 1400 miles and the adblu range on the computer is telling me I have 5000 miles left of ad-blue range (I don't know if they come with the tank full from the factory). The ad-blue range was 5500 when it came from the showroom. I can buy a 10 litre drum of ad-blu locally for £10 or thereabouts, similar price on Amazon. If you can find a filling station with an ad-blue pump it is even cheaper. 

 

I'm not worried about it.

Edited 4 June, 20188 yr by Luckypants

Thanks guys - that probably puts diesels back on the table for me now - thanks.

On the subject of ADBlue, does anyone know the size of the Adblue tank in the Karoq? Nothing in the owners manual and nothing I can find via google. It's worth knowing as overflowing urea is very bad for the paint.

5 minutes ago, Luckypants said:

On the subject of ADBlue, does anyone know the size of the Adblue tank in the Karoq? Nothing in the owners manual and nothing I can find via google. It's worth knowing as overflowing urea is very bad for the paint.

does that mean you can use **** instead - lol ;-)

1 hour ago, Luckypants said:

On the subject of ADBlue, does anyone know the size of the Adblue tank in the Karoq? Nothing in the owners manual and nothing I can find via google. It's worth knowing as overflowing urea is very bad for the paint.

 

It's about 12 litres - owners manual p263.

 

51 minutes ago, Arkaig said:

 

It's about 12 litres - owners manual p263.

Doh! I actually read that page and totally did not see it. One of those days today. Good job I'm not driving

 

Thanks.

Wilko sells 10 litres for £10.

Halfords 10 litres for £11. 

 

When I had a Yeti 2.0 150ps, I bought a couple of Adblue bottles from the local Skoda dealer. A bit pricey, but it was the bottles that I wanted. I fill these from a 10 litre can now and it means there is no chance of over-filling the tank and spilling it on the paintwork.

Local agricultural supplies does 10 litres for £8.40+VAT. The only way to get it cheaper would be to find a filling station with an adblue pump. About 80p a litre from those I understand.

Just a heads up for those that lease from 'Motability'.   

 

You do not have to pay for ad-blue top ups, main dealerships are required to do it for free to you.

Counts as part of the servicing regime, even if you are doing your allowable 20,000 miles a year.  Obviously you need to let them know you are coming in to have it filled up, but do not allow them to tell you that you have to pay.

Edited 5 June, 20188 yr by Offski

5 minutes ago, Offski said:

Just a heads up for those that lease from 'Motability'.   

 

You do not have to pay for ad-blue top ups, main dealerships are required to do it for free to you.

Counts as part of the servicing regime, even if you are doping your allowable 20,000 miles a year.  Obviously you need to let them know you are coming in to have it filled up, but do not allow them to tell you that you have to pay.

 

Already knew about this.  Our dealer told us.  Don't even have to pay for Washer Fluid if I wanted to use the official VAG group stuff... but I don't find it very good (They usually put a bottle on the front seat after its been to dealer for anything anyway!)

I have been running a Citroen diesel for quite a few years...and being Citroen they don't use Adblue,. They have their own proprietary system which the owner cannot service because the car needs to be attached to a computer to reset the engine management...or something like that. Puzzling, because in 10 years I have not seen any 'additive low' notification, but have regularly been topped-up. The cost of this was in excess of £140.00 each time.

 

I am looking forward to taking delivery of my 2.0 TDI DSG Karoq at £10.00 per Adblue fix.

1 hour ago, Persolus said:

I have been running a Citroen diesel for quite a few years...and being Citroen they don't use Adblue,. They have their own proprietary system which the owner cannot service because the car needs to be attached to a computer to reset the engine management...or something like that. Puzzling, because in 10 years I have not seen any 'additive low' notification, but have regularly been topped-up. The cost of this was in excess of £140.00 each time.

 

I am looking forward to taking delivery of my 2.0 TDI DSG Karoq at £10.00 per Adblue fix.

Thats a worry. We have a 2007 C4 Picasso thats only done about 36000 miles and only ever went to Citroen for servicing when the car was still under warranty. I don't ever remember a mention on the bill for adblue (or Citroens version of it) and we've never had a warning that it needs topping up

36 minutes ago, ashfan said:

Thats a worry. We have a 2007 C4 Picasso thats only done about 36000 miles and only ever went to Citroen for servicing when the car was still under warranty. I don't ever remember a mention on the bill for adblue (or Citroens version of it) and we've never had a warning that it needs topping up

 

you can buy the kits to do it your self, most independants do it nowhttps://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-Ltr-Litre-Pat-Fluid-Filler-kit-EOLYS-DPF-Fluid-for-Peugeot-Citroen-Ford-JLM/123171662650?hash=item1cad9a6b3a:g:Gn0AAOSwTapV6V1v

 

 

1 hour ago, ashfan said:

Thats a worry. We have a 2007 C4 Picasso thats only done about 36000 miles and only ever went to Citroen for servicing when the car was still under warranty. I don't ever remember a mention on the bill for adblue (or Citroens version of it) and we've never had a warning that it needs topping up

 

31 minutes ago, patrolman said:

 

you can buy the kits to do it your self, most independants do it nowhttps://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-Ltr-Litre-Pat-Fluid-Filler-kit-EOLYS-DPF-Fluid-for-Peugeot-Citroen-Ford-JLM/123171662650?hash=item1cad9a6b3a:g:Gn0AAOSwTapV6V1v

 

 

If patrolman's post is what you are talking about, it is different to adblue. This is talking about DPF (Diesel Particulate Filter) fluid for catching soot particles. Adblue is added to the exhaust gasses AFTER the DPF has done it's thing. Adblue is used to reduce NOx emissions, not particulate emissions. Adblue is sometimes referred to as DEF (Diesel Exhaust Fluid).

Edited 5 June, 20188 yr by Luckypants

1 hour ago, ashfan said:

Thats a worry. We have a 2007 C4 Picasso thats only done about 36000 miles and only ever went to Citroen for servicing when the car was still under warranty. I don't ever remember a mention on the bill for adblue (or Citroens version of it) and we've never had a warning that it needs topping up

2007 will be before adblue came out and probably before the dpf which I thought came in about 2010 at least it did with the land rover Freelander 2.

Ford and Peugeot were using a fuel adertive system instead of DPFS way befor adblue and DPF systems were common it’s not the same fluid and lasted longer ltr for ltr over adblue but this was only to control soot as Luckpants has said 

 adblue isn’t new it was around in the 90’s on PSV vehicles and some trucks I had a DPF on my 2007 Octy scout 

 I actually saw an advert for adblue deleat in a trade mag the other day ! 

 Back to the original post if you don’t want to be bothered to fill up your self your dealer will do it and look in your local area there’s a man in a van buy us and he goes round doing re fills at home 

Isuzu have launch a new advertising campaign to let those looking for a nice new pickup that their diesel engines do not use a SCR (ad-blue) emissions system.

'simply Clever'.   or Cleverer,

No AdBlue - Isuzu.mhtml