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3 hours ago, Carlston said:

 

Как Yeti справляется с повышением передачи на 5%? Особенно при трогании с места на крутом холме и движении на высшей передаче?

I did not notice any changes in the dynamics. Not so much a significant increase in circumference to be felt. The unsprung weight (I don't know how it is correct in English) affects this more, and it depends more on disks and rubber. Cast aluminum wheels on cheap winter tires can be 10 kilograms heavier than stamped on premium rubber. Incl. the size is not so critical.

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1 hour ago, VadimSK said:

I did not notice any changes in the dynamics. Not so much a significant increase in circumference to be felt. The unsprung weight (I don't know how it is correct in English) affects this more, and it depends more on disks and rubber. Cast aluminum wheels on cheap winter tires can be 10 kilograms heavier than stamped on premium rubber. Incl. the size is not so critical.

 

215/65R16 также будет хорошим выбором увеличенного размера, возможно, он будет установлен на диски 6.5Jx16 ET43 от Skoda Karoq. Есть хорошие шины AT (All-Terrain) такого размера, которые помогут буксировать караван по илистому полю.

11 hours ago, Carlston said:

 

215/65R16 также будет хорошим выбором увеличенного размера, возможно, он будет установлен на диски 6.5Jx16 ET43 от Skoda Karoq. Есть хорошие шины AT (All-Terrain) такого размера, которые помогут буксировать караван по илистому полю.

 

How come your post appears in a different language?

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It does appear out of character for @Carlston previous posts. All posts bar the odd one in the swedish members area should ideally be in english. ;) TY.

@ColinDIs @Carlstonactually a human member or a Bot?

I did wonder if it was a special feature of Briskoda.  

 

It is just that the member never says where they are, where they drive, what they drive, 

Then they have links to the full choice or Steel or Alloy Rims, Tyres, Suspension and brake parts world wide.

The obsession with smaller rims might be brilliance or some coding error.

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I am beginning to think that too. :)

 

Turing test time ;)

Wasn't Carlston simply answering in VadimSK's own language, because VadimSK had obviously translated Carlston's English post to Russian in his reply?

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4 hours ago, muddyjim said:

Wasn't Carlston simply answering in VadimSK's own language, because VadimSK had obviously translated Carlston's English post to Russian in his reply?

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I used google translator so that VadimSK was better able to understand my answer. Here is the English version of my reply.

 

"The 215/65R16 would also be a good oversized choice, perhaps fitted to 6.5Jx16 ET43 rims from the Skoda Karoq. There are good AT (All-Terrain) tires in this size that will help you tow a caravan in muddy fields."

 

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@Carlston thank you for helping our community.

 

I just get a bit twitchy when I see it happen randomly.

 

in context makes sense. 

1 hour ago, Carlston said:

 

I used google translator so that VadimSK was better able to understand my answer. Here is the English version of my reply.

 

"The 215/65R16 would also be a good oversized choice, perhaps fitted to 6.5Jx16 ET43 rims from the Skoda Karoq. There are good AT (All-Terrain) tires in this size that will help you tow a caravan in muddy fields."

 


теперь я понимаю

1 hour ago, Carlston said:

 

Я использовал гугл-переводчик, чтобы VadimSK лучше понял мой ответ. Вот английская версия моего ответа.

 

«215 / 65R16 также будет хорошим выбором увеличенного размера, возможно, установленного на диски 6.5Jx16 ET43 от Skoda Karoq. Есть хорошие шины AT (All-Terrain) такого размера, которые помогут вам буксировать караван по грязным полям».

 

Thank you for your concern!) I can read English well. It's harder to write. Especially technical terms.

By the way, my winter tires are 215 / 65R16. I agree with you that this is an excellent choice of size.

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Great stuff. Much appreciate your specific reply 👌🏻
 

I’ll get the mechanic perform this, when I remap my Yeti with http://revotechnik.com

On 21/01/2021 at 17:36, Carlston said:

 

It depends what the aspect ratio is.

 

For 215/50 to 215/65 tyres, ETRTO recommends a rim width between 6" and 7.5".

 

However, for a 215/55 tyre the suggested starting point is a 7" rim width as you can see from this link.

 

215/55R17 Approved Rim Width Range (inch) 6.0-7.0-7.5

 https://www.toyo.co.uk/tirefinder/index/width/215/aspect/55/rim/17

 

And for a 215/60 tyre the suggested starting point is a 6.5" rim width as you can see from these two links.

 

215/60R16 Approved Rim Width Range (inch) 6.0-6.5-7.5

https://www.toyo.co.uk/tirefinder/index/width/215/aspect/60/rim/16

 

215/60R17 Approved Rim Width Range (inch) 6.0-6.5-7.5

https://www.toyo.co.uk/tirefinder/index/width/215/aspect/60/rim/17

 

Notice that car manufacturers don't always go along with the suggested starting point. The Skoda Karoq uses a 6J rim for it's 215/60R16 tyre size, whereas the Skoda Yeti uses a 7J rim for it's 215/60R16 tyre size.

 

Also notice, that when selecting a rim width, there's no need to consider the rim diameter. For example, 215/60R16 and 215/60R17 have the same range of rim widths.

 

Although these links are to Toyo's website, Toyo don't make these rules/guidelines for approved rim widths. Toyo is simply following ETRTO which is the European tyre industry body. Even big name brands such Michelin, Continental, Bridgestone follow ETRTO's guidelines. I can't post a link to ETRTO's guidelines directly, because ETRTO doesn't make their information freely available. You have to pay to get information from ETRTO. Fortunately, Toyo does make ETRTO's guidelines freely available indirectly through their website but only relating to tyre sizes that they make.

 

Here's some more examples, this time relating to 185/55R15 and 185/6R15 tyre sizes.

 

185/55R15 Approved Rim Width Range (inch) 5.0-6.0-6.5

https://www.toyo.co.uk/tirefinder/index/width/185/aspect/55/rim/15

 

On the Citigo, Skoda uses 5.5J rims for it's 185/55R15 tyre size, not the suggested 6J rim width.

 

185/60R15 Approved Rim Width Range (inch) 5.0-5.5-6.5

https://www.toyo.co.uk/tirefinder/index/width/185/aspect/60/rim/15

 

On the Fabia, Skoda uses 6J rims for it's 185/60R15 tyre size, not the suggested 5.5J rim width.

 

So it sounds like with the 185/55R15 tyre, Skoda were trying to get the comfort of a 185/60R15 tyre by using a narrower rim...and with the 185/60R15 tyre Skoda were trying to get the handling of a 185/55R15 tyre by using a wider rim.

 

WoW — thanks for this reply!

 

I went with Goodyear Vector G3 (SUV) XL 100V tyres today.

All those letters in the name are relevant, so I emailed Goodyear to clarify why the ‘SUV’ distinction... and a super helpful mechanic CALLED me back! Great chap ;)

 

SUV model => As the yeti is tall, it’s all about keeping the leaning the car upright. Goodyear makes XL tyres without the SUV model, and he said either are fine, but with a taller car, I know my Yeti leans on corners do I got the SUV Tyre model (a bit more expensive).

 

Went from 225/50R17, to a taller but narrower 215/60R17 as the 50R is a harsh ride, while the 60R is said to smooth out the ride:

 

2 noticeable benefits:

— it is in fact riding noticeably smoother over small bumps. i was surprised to be able to notice that!?
 

— the speedometer is NOW accurate! knew it was 5mph off so going to a taller Tyre by 5% corrects this OEM error. It’s now reading 99% correct, not 95% correct.

 

 

225/50R17

  • Shows 70mph but going 66

215/60R17

  • Shows 70mph going 69.5
On 01/02/2021 at 16:36, Carlston said:

 

How does the Yeti cope with pulling the 5% higher gearing? Especially pulling away from a standstill up a steep hill and driving in top gear?

I’ve had no issues with this, especially cause I can put it in sport mode which works wonders too. Also looking at http://revotechnik.com for of better gearing and mpg interests.

2 hours ago, JamesWood said:

WoW — thanks for this reply!

 

I went with Goodyear Vector G3 (SUV) XL 100V tyres today.

All those letters in the name are relevant, so I emailed Goodyear to clarify why the ‘SUV’ distinction... and a super helpful mechanic CALLED me back! Great chap ;)

 

SUV model => As the yeti is tall, it’s all about keeping the leaning the car upright. Goodyear makes XL tyres without the SUV model, and he said either are fine, but with a taller car, I know my Yeti leans on corners do I got the SUV Tyre model (a bit more expensive).

 

Went from 225/50R17, to a taller but narrower 215/60R17 as the 50R is a harsh ride, while the 60R is said to smooth out the ride:

 

2 noticeable benefits:

— it is in fact riding noticeably smoother over small bumps. i was surprised to be able to notice that!?
 

— the speedometer is NOW accurate! knew it was 5mph off so going to a taller Tyre by 5% corrects this OEM error. It’s now reading 99% correct, not 95% correct.

 

 

225/50R17

  • Shows 70mph but going 66

215/60R17

  • Shows 70mph going 69.5

Although the speedometer now shows a more accurate speed, you may find that the odometer is now inaccurate. Odometers are normally pretty accurate as standard, but speedos normally err on the optimistic side for legal reasons.

 

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On 04/02/2021 at 11:16, JamesWood said:

I’ve had no issues with this, especially cause I can put it in sport mode which works wonders too. Also looking at http://revotechnik.com for of better gearing and mpg interests.

Hi @JamesWood really interesting reading this as I have a very similar spec Yeti to yours and am considering fitting a taller tyre to smooth out the ride and subtly fill the wheel arch a bit more. Do you have any photos of these tyres fitted? Have you noticed any impact on your mpg since fitting them? And last question... would ut also have been an option to stick with the oem width of 225 for the tyre? Thanks 😊

13 hours ago, KentYeti said:

Hi @JamesWood really interesting reading this as I have a very similar spec Yeti to yours and am considering fitting a taller tyre to smooth out the ride and subtly fill the wheel arch a bit more. Do you have any photos of these tyres fitted? Have you noticed any impact on your mpg since fitting them? And last question... would ut also have been an option to stick with the oem width of 225 for the tyre? Thanks 😊

James hasn't visited this website since 4/2/2021, ie. he's not a regular poster...so you may not get a reply from him.

 

I suspect James' decision to change his 225/50R17 tyres to 215/60R17 had a lot to do with him wanting to keep his current rims and the appearance factor of big wheels.

 

However, a similar improved ride could have been achieved by fitting the standard 215/60R16 tyres...although also needing new rims.

 

The standard Yeti rim width for 215/60R16 tyres is 7J which is quite wide for this size tyre. It's great for sharp responsive steering/handling but the trade off is a little less comfort than fitting 215/60R16 to a narrower rim such as 6.5J or 6J.

 

The Karoq fits its 215/60R16 to a 6J rim,  and the Superb MK3 fits its 215/60R16 to a 6.5J rim.

 

So to summarise, Skoda fitted the 215/60R16 tyre size to the following rim widths:

 

6J on the Karoq

6.5J on the Superb MK3

7J on the Yeti

 

215/60 is such a comfortable tyre size, that even fitting this size to a relatively wide 7J rim still improves the ride comfort compared to low profile 225/50R17 tyres...as James' found out. But for maximum comfort, 6J and 6.5J is even better...with the narrower 6J being the best out of all three 6J, 6.5J, and 7J rim widths. However, for a balanced approach regarding handling versus comfort then the Superb MK3's approach with its 6.5J rims could be the way to go...although my personal preference is usually for maximum comfort as that's something you can appreciate more on a long drive on UK roads.

Skoda Karoq 2017 1.5 TSi
Tire 
Rim 
 
 
 
215/60R16 95V 6Jx16 ET43 2.2
 
 
215/55R17 94V 7Jx17 ET45 2.2

 

https://www.wheel-size.com/size/skoda/karoq/2017/

 

Skoda Superb 2016 2.0TDi
Tire 
Rim 
 
 
 
215/60R16 95V 6.5Jx16 ET41 2.3 / 2.1
 
 
215/55ZR17 94W 6.5Jx17 ET41 2.3 / 2.1
 

 

https://www.wheel-size.com/size/skoda/superb/2016/

Skoda Yeti 2016 2.0TDi
Tire 
Rim 
 
 
 
215/60R16 95H 7Jx16 ET45 2.2
 
 
225/50ZR17 94W 7Jx17 ET45 2.2

 

https://www.wheel-size.com/size/skoda/yeti/2016/

 

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19 hours ago, Carlston said:

James hasn't visited this website since 4/2/2021, ie. he's not a regular poster...so you may not get a reply from him.

 

I suspect James' decision to change his 225/50R17 tyres to 215/60R17 had a lot to do with him wanting to keep his current rims and the appearance factor of big wheels.

 

However, a similar improved ride could have been achieved by fitting the standard 215/60R16 tyres...although also needing new rims.

 

The standard Yeti rim width for 215/60R16 tyres is 7J which is quite wide for this size tyre. It's great for sharp responsive steering/handling but the trade off is a little less comfort than fitting 215/60R16 to a narrower rim such as 6.5J or 6J.

 

The Karoq fits its 215/60R16 to a 6J rim,  and the Superb MK3 fits its 215/60R16 to a 6.5J rim.

 

So to summarise, Skoda fitted the 215/60R16 tyre size to the following rim widths:

 

6J on the Karoq

6.5J on the Superb MK3

7J on the Yeti

 

215/60 is such a comfortable tyre size, that even fitting this size to a relatively wide 7J rim still improves the ride comfort compared to low profile 225/50R17 tyres...as James' found out. But for maximum comfort, 6J and 6.5J is even better...with the narrower 6J being the best out of all three 6J, 6.5J, and 7J rim widths. However, for a balanced approach regarding handling versus comfort then the Superb MK3's approach with its 6.5J rims could be the way to go...although my personal preference is usually for maximum comfort as that's something you can appreciate more on a long drive on UK roads.

Skoda Karoq 2017 1.5 TSi
Tire 
Rim 
 
 
 
215/60R16 95V 6Jx16 ET43 2.2
 
 
215/55R17 94V 7Jx17 ET45 2.2

 

https://www.wheel-size.com/size/skoda/karoq/2017/

 

Skoda Superb 2016 2.0TDi
Tire 
Rim 
 
 
 
215/60R16 95V 6.5Jx16 ET41 2.3 / 2.1
 
 
215/55ZR17 94W 6.5Jx17 ET41 2.3 / 2.1
 

 

https://www.wheel-size.com/size/skoda/superb/2016/

Skoda Yeti 2016 2.0TDi
Tire 
Rim 
 
 
 
215/60R16 95H 7Jx16 ET45 2.2
 
 
225/50ZR17 94W 7Jx17 ET45 2.2

 

https://www.wheel-size.com/size/skoda/yeti/2016/

 

That's an incredibly helpful response - thanks @Carlston

 

Yeah like James I don't really want to change my rims at this stage, however do need new tyres which is why I'm looking into all of this... I'm after some 4 season tyres as am often driving in rough, wet and muddy conditions... and I have to say as much as i love the ride and style of the Yeti I've always felt the tyres look a little weedy in those big arches!

 

Going with 215/60 R17 as James did seems like a good option however I've noticed that the tyres I'm after - Bridgestone Weather Control a005 - also come in 225/55 R17 which seems like an interesting option? I've used a tyre calculator and this would have a more subtle change - closing the arch gap and raising the ride height by 11mm and only altering the gearing by 3% or so.

5 hours ago, KentYeti said:

That's an incredibly helpful response - thanks @Carlston

 

Yeah like James I don't really want to change my rims at this stage, however do need new tyres which is why I'm looking into all of this... I'm after some 4 season tyres as am often driving in rough, wet and muddy conditions... and I have to say as much as i love the ride and style of the Yeti I've always felt the tyres look a little weedy in those big arches!

 

Going with 215/60 R17 as James did seems like a good option however I've noticed that the tyres I'm after - Bridgestone Weather Control a005 - also come in 225/55 R17 which seems like an interesting option? I've used a tyre calculator and this would have a more subtle change - closing the arch gap and raising the ride height by 11mm and only altering the gearing by 3% or so.

 

The Karoq 4x4 uses 225/55R17 fitted to the same 17" specification rims as the Yeti, ie. 7Jx17 ET45 as shown in the chart below from wheel-size.com

Skoda Karoq 2017 2.0 TDi 4x4
Tire 
Rim 
 
 
 
225/55R17 97V 7Jx17 ET45 2.4
 

 

https://www.wheel-size.com/size/skoda/karoq/2017/

 

The load index of 225/55R17 is higher than 225/50R17, so you can lower the tyre pressures by 3psi when fitting 225/55R17 compared to 225/50R17. It's easy to notice the improved ride comfort with a drop of 3psi.

 

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8 hours ago, Carlston said:

 

The Karoq 4x4 uses 225/55R17 fitted to the same 17" specification rims as the Yeti, ie. 7Jx17 ET45 as shown in the chart below from wheel-size.com

Skoda Karoq 2017 2.0 TDi 4x4
Tire 
Rim 
 
 
 
225/55R17 97V 7Jx17 ET45 2.4
 

 

https://www.wheel-size.com/size/skoda/karoq/2017/

 

The load index of 225/55R17 is higher than 225/50R17, so you can lower the tyre pressures by 3psi when fitting 225/55R17 compared to 225/50R17. It's easy to notice the improved ride comfort with a drop of 3psi.

 

In that case I think I've made up my mind... 225/55R17 it is then!

 

Thanks for all the advice @Carlston, I'll post a photo on here once they're fitted so anyone else thinking of doing the same thing can see

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I had to try. 

Didin't fit. 

20x9 

255/35/20

 

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