Hi! I was due to sign up for a new VRS today but Ive been having doubts over what spec I want. Ive settled on moat of it but for the first time Im finding myself thinking about adding the DCC to the options list.

 

Ive never tried it myself and havent been in a car with it. No-one I know has it and theres none in the garage. 

 

Does anyone have any experience, positive or negative, with DCC that could share some thoughts? The roads here are pretty rough at times and I was wondering if it took some of the jiggly-ness out of the ride and made things a bit more relaxing?

Experienced it in a Leon Cupra and it's brilliant imo, if I was ordering new it would be the first option ticked, closely followed by active info display. Only reason my current one doesn't have it is I wanted the 245 edition and they're rare enough second hand never mind waiting for one that had DCC specced. 

 

All that said, the warranty would concern me a bit as the suspension is obviously more complicated and costly but I think the warranty still treats suspension faults as 'wear and tear' past the first 6 months of ownership unless a clear manufacturing defect, so if anything went wrong, you could find Skoda unhelpful and with an expensive bill. 

Thanks for the input @Kenai

 

Could you elaborate on what the differences were between the modes, was it noticeable? Best of both worlds?

1 hour ago, ExSEAT said:

Does anyone have any experience, positive or negative, with DCC that could share some thoughts? The roads here are pretty rough at times and I was wondering if it took some of the jiggly-ness out of the ride and made things a bit more relaxing?

 

Does just this on my R - would not now buy a motor without it. 

1 hour ago, ExSEAT said:

Thanks for the input @Kenai

 

Could you elaborate on what the differences were between the modes, was it noticeable? Best of both worlds?

In comfort it was by far the most compliant ride I've experienced in a car recently, was very surprised how comfortable it was, especially on 19s. In Cupra mode it was rock solid, very sharp. Very much best of both worlds in a way non adaptive suspension couldn't dream of. 

I have had both - O3 w/o DCC and 16 and 17 rims with mode selector

O3 FL with DCC and 18 rims (L&K) with mode selector too.

 

DCC is a very nice option you can make the ride like in a french car or you can make it like a sports car (to feel every bump). Additional thing on the DCC is if you have ACC - it changes the modes on the later one and there is quite different operation depending what you select.

 

On the DCC i see only one drawback and it is the cost of the shock absorbers if you need to change them....

 

P.S. Just to add that the ride with the bigger rims is and DCC is much nicer that without it and 17s.

Edited 27 October, 20187 yr by trimata

Good feedback so far. Im not too concerned about repairs, I do around 7000 miles a year and keep the car for 3 years, anything failing with that amount of use leaves a good 'fit for purpose' argument for me!

 

Im about 90% sold on this!

I've been told by dealer that everyone who has ordered it has been impressed with it and that it transforms the handling of the car. 

 

I'm looking forward to seeing what it's capable of and see if it improves the handling and ride of car as much as they say it does. 

Edited 27 October, 20187 yr by TheWanderer

40 minutes ago, TheWanderer said:

I've been told by dealer that everyone who has ordered it has been impressed with it and that it transforms the handling of the car. 

 

I'm looking forward to seeing what it's capable of and see if it improves the handling and ride of car as much as they say it does. 

I wish you had yours now so you could tell me your own impression! Im pretty much sold now after driving my current 220 vrs into town and back

Put it on the order, I've no idea how long it'll take for my order to arrive, all I know is that they're going to have to extend my PCP a bit longer. 

Last year when mine went into the dealer for it's service, I was able to 'encourage' one of the salesmen to give me a go of a vrs with dcc on it (mines a my16 and was never an option).

 

I can't say I was able to tell the difference between comfort and normal (both felt very similar), but I was certainly able to feel the difference to how the car felt in sports mode. Being a vrs, there's not a lot of roll anyway, however any change of direction with it in sports kept the car flat and rather stable. For a lot of people, I appreciate £860 is a steep price, but if you're buying a VRS then you're wanting a car with a bit of excitement, so this is a good addition.

 

 Hopefully, fingers crossed, when I'm back driving, I'll be investing in a set of coilovers with damping control.

I have it on my Cupra and I second what has been said already: In comfort mode it is more comfortable than a non-DCC model and in Sport mode it feels like a go-kart: Almost no roll at all. It is like the car is on coilovers.

I strongly recommend... I convinced my work mate that was ordering an Octavia to tick that box - when he gets his car around next month, I will ask him what he thinks.

I also like my DCC, the only drawback I can think of was the price.

It is usually set to Comfort but if I have to do a quick course correction it automatically changes to Sport mode for a while.

 

Yeah I've got DDC on my vRS245 & it's great, go-kart handling in Sport & SWMBO is very happy in comfort. It also adapts slightly to current use so, motorway journeys with the family become an effortless waft whilst, the harder you push it in Sport the more it grips.

 

Obviously, the 245 has the VAQ diff so powering through corners isn't all about the suspension but, as you get to know the car you find the cornering limits are quite staggering. So much so, that the 150 quid a corner for the best rubber you can buy seems very worthwhile.

 

If you want your family workhorse vRS to be a bit of fun when you are on your own, it's the very best option you can buy.

 

@TheWanderer your more than welcome to try a spin in mine whilst you're waiting for yours to arrive, there is a meet in West Meon 1st Tuesday of every month, which has some nice fast twisty roads. Alternatively, we can meet up somewhere between Farnborough & Guildford.

I'll see what time I have, it's very limited at the moment, thanks for the offer though. 

I bought mine nearly new and specifically had DCC as a deal-breaker option. I managed to find ONE vehicle in the UK for sale with it in three months of looking and was happy to forgo any and all other options for it.

It's a "must have" IMHO; as others have already said, it transforms the vehicle. 

IMHO, you would be absolutely mad not to spec it.......

 

 

So Im going to the dealers today. Im holding you all responsible for whatever happens 

 

Thanks for all the advice so far. Just to clear up, the sports setting on the DCC isnt just like a normal VRS suspension? Is it VRS+? 

Yes, it is a bit stiffer - at least on the Cupra.

Rolls less.

Thanks everyone, I signed up today and put it on the spec sheet!!

You wont regret it. I personally think the standard (non-dcc) suspension has some issues and indeed this has been mentioned in road tests on the web. The car in Normal Mode feels similar to a non-dcc equipped vehicle, perhaps slightly softer. Comfort is MUCH softer and its taken me 17K to use the thing because I found it pitched and rolled too much for my liking, but now I use it quite a lot on long runs. Sport is indeed VRS+ and I now wonder if there is an element of active roll-bar involved in the setup because of the cornering stance. Oh and the VAQ diff is an incredible addition and that and that alone makes the car stand head and shoulders over a preFL. Did you go for DSG? 

 

Edited 28 October, 20187 yr by wardth

1 hour ago, wardth said:

You wont regret it. I personally think the standard (non-dcc) suspension has some issues and indeed this has been mentioned in road tests on the web. The car in Normal Mode feels similar to a non-dcc equipped vehicle, perhaps slightly softer. Comfort is MUCH softer and its taken me 17K to use the thing because I found it pitched and rolled too much for my liking, but now I use it quite a lot on long runs. Sport is indeed VRS+ and I now wonder if there is an element of active roll-bar involved in the setup because of the cornering stance. Oh and the VAQ diff is an incredible addition and that and that alone makes the car stand head and shoulders over a preFL. Did you go for DSG? 

 

Yeah I went for DSG, im sick of riding the clutch in the often nose to tail traffic going to work. Im taking a chance on the DCC, in fact its a chance 100% as Ive not driven this new VRS and only tried DSG for the first time this afternoon. We have some awful roads round here, so the idea of a floaty soft car appeals greatly. My extras have added a fair bit to the monthly price, I could have given them my car and probably came away with a similar payment without a deposit in the end. But it has to be my spec or its pointless. 

 

Im lookong forward to the DCC and the virtual cockpit the most

You wont regret the DSG on bit. I took a gamble when I bought my MK2 Fl diesel years ago but never looked back. The DQ380 7 speeder in the 245 is a fabulous box and the same as the Golf GTI / R etc. Its strong and performs superbly. I never ever miss the manual. One thing I would suggest is getting a set of really decent alloy shift paddle extensions (I'll send you a link). They make the process of manually changing gear that much nicer.

 

Im probably going ti retrofit the virtual cockpit if possible to my MY17 but its nit a deal breaker. Personally I'd have the Canton over the virtual cockpit anyway and forget nonsense like Park Assist which is simply never used.

Park assist would be nice if it was included but im not paying 600 quid for me to use it when i have passengers in it once in a blue moon lol. I got in a DSG demo car today and first thing I tried to do was put the clutch in to start it. Its going to be a long learning process!

35 minutes ago, wardth said:

You wont regret the DSG on bit. I took a gamble when I bought my MK2 Fl diesel years ago but never looked back. The DQ380 7 speeder in the 245 is a fabulous box and the same as the Golf GTI / R etc. Its strong and performs superbly. I never ever miss the manual. One thing I would suggest is getting a set of really decent alloy shift paddle extensions (I'll send you a link). They make the process of manually changing gear that much nicer.

 

Im probably going ti retrofit the virtual cockpit if possible to my MY17 but its nit a deal breaker. Personally I'd have the Canton over the virtual cockpit anyway and forget nonsense like Park Assist which is simply never used.

Also interested in a decent set of paddles, amazon and eBay appear to be a minefield of cheap crap

Here you go - I bought mine in black. they fit perfectly, are extremely high quality, and look OEM.

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DSG-Rocker-Switches-Extension-Shift-Paddle-Aluminum-Silver-Golf-5-6-Gti-R-GTD/282812754956?fits=Model%3AGolf+V&epid=11013265012&hash=item41d8f42c0c:g:l~UAAOSwk1haBNnO:rk:2:pf:0