Guys,

I am thinking of getting an used superb (SEP 2014) which is 1.4tsi with mileage of 90k for 6k pounds. getting rid off my favourite Octavia (elegance) 2013 as it is diesel car. I do part time uber by the way.

Well, could somebody tell me how energy efficient this superb are? .in the car specification it says

Urban 36.2 mpg, Extra Urban 57.6 mpg, so Average 47.9 mpg, Annual Tax £140, Engine power 123 bhp and Acceleration (0-60mph) 10.1 seconds. SO, those who are driving this car, could you tell me in real life what is the urban mpg i can expect from this well used car? and also this car comes with no satnav. would it be possible to upgrade it with an aftermarket satnav with front/rear camera from halford (did any of you do it?)

i am thinking of part exchange with my elegance (101000mileage). they may give me 5k for mine and i have to add the extra 1k to get this superb.  i still didn't see the car physically. if i can have some idea and knowledge then i may travel to 150miles to do the deal.

 

please advise me as much as you can. i will be so grateful for your valuable advise. thank you.

What's the reason for wanting to change from the Octavia to the Superb?

 

I'd imagine as a part time taxi driver a diesel would be the obvious choice, making the change to petrol seem a little unusual.

 

Take the quoted / official fuel economy figures with a pinch of salt. The Superb is a bigger and heavier car and will likely be thirstier than the diesel Octavia.

 

I don't think Halfords do built-in sat navs, only portable ones. Do you have a link to what you're thinking of?

 

When you say "front/rear camera", are you talking a parking camera, or dash cam?

 

A link to the car advert would help, we can then see what specification it is and which head unit is currently fitted.

In terms of fuel economy, expect a good 10mpg less than your Octavia. I had a 2012 1.6TDi Elegance Octavia Estate, over 68,000 miles from new I averaged 58.56mpg, with the best '3 tank average' of 63.5. I swapped it for a used 2014 1.4TSi Superb hatch, which had 10,000 on the clock. Over 30,000 miles in the Superb I have averaged 48.06 with the best 3 tank average of 52.9. A high proportion of my mileage is non-urban though, but this ought to give an indication of the relative economy of the two vehicles.

 

I've not done anything with aftermarket satnav or cameras so can't help there. I use Waze on my iPhone for satnav, voice control with it is OK, but not perfect.

when i urban drive with my diesel mpg always ranges between  43 to 48. and i figured out already that real mpg is even 4mpg less than what it shows on the system. so if i can get 48mpg for city drive with that petrol i will be over the moon.

26 minutes ago, automass said:

if i can get 48mpg for city drive with that petrol i will be over the moon.

 

Dream on, depending on what you define as city driving, I would say you will be very lucky indeed to get 40 mpg average, be prepared to see it as low as 35 mpg.

 

1.4tsi superbs can return mid to upper 40s but only on motorway or long constant speed runs and when driving moderately gently and slowly.

 

If you are, like some taxi drivers I observe, in the habit of sitting when stood with the engine ticking over, the petrol will have abysmal consumption in comparison to diesel. Idling is where diesels really shine, sipping fuel while you keep warm/cool.

 

I'm guessing you are getting ready for the new ULEZ regs in London.

 

Edited 2 November, 20187 yr by xman

30 minutes ago, automass said:

when i urban drive with my diesel mpg always ranges between  43 to 48. and i figured out already that real mpg is even 4mpg less than what it shows on the system. so if i can get 48mpg for city drive with that petrol i will be over the moon.

 

Even the official urban figures show up as 36.2 mpg - well short of your 48mpg.

 

I'm getting a reasonable mpg  (see signature) with my 1.4tsi but my type of driving gives me closeish to the average official figures. ( My 30 mile commute is lots of A  roads with traffic, I do numerous motorway journeys and urban driving on a Friday/weekend). I suspect if this was just around town / urban  it would be late 30's.

 

 

Thanks for the reply guys..what about the reliability? Car is at 90k at the moment. Would it be worth buying for part time cabbing?

Mine has been bullet proof thus far but If I was cabbing I'd get a Toyota Auris Touring hybrid 

Just keep diesel and remap/chip it

2 minutes ago, jafo said:

Just keep diesel and remap/chip it

 

Unlike when I bough my petrol (pre dieselgate) - diesels are cheaper to buy now! When I bought mine (June 2015) no one wanted a big petrol car - how times have changed.

 

9 minutes ago, jafo said:

Just keep diesel and remap/chip it

i wish to keep it..but mine is euro5.. i am effected by new ULEZ

6 minutes ago, bigjohn said:

 

Unlike when I bough my petrol (pre dieselgate) - diesels are cheaper to buy now! When I bought mine (June 2015) no one wanted a big petrol car - how times have changed.

 

 

dont worry. by 2032 no one will want petrol as well..only electric car. So don't invest money for petrol car

Edited 2 November, 20187 yr by automass

2 minutes ago, automass said:

 

dont worry. by 2032 no one will want petrol as well..only electric car.

 

Hydrogen? - discuss.............

Edited 3 November, 20187 yr by bigjohn

17 minutes ago, bigjohn said:

 

Hydrogen? - discuss.............

 

Hindenburg......

9 hours ago, xman said:

 

Hindenburg......

 

Yes, but have you seen how badly electric cars burn - Richard Hammond tested this somewhat

 

In Japan they are accelerating the roll out of hydrogen filling stations. 

https://morningconsult.com/2018/03/29/hydrogen-cars-arent-the-hindenburg-and-other-marketing-hurdles-for-toyotas-mirai/

 

I'm not convinced yet by electric cars mainly because of inconsistent and now rip off charging points as well as the life cycle of the batteries.

 

Hydrogen (as per any petrol tank safety cut off valves fitted! ) technology kind of makes sense but it's all rather expensive for most of us - for now.

 

We shall see...........

 

On 02/11/2018 at 14:26, automass said:

.  i still didn't see the car physically. if i can have some idea and knowledge then i may travel to 150miles to do the deal.

 

please advise me as much as you can. i will be so grateful for your valuable advise. thank you.

 

You must check it out as condition is all. It should be very smooth and really quiet especially inside the car. Thoroughly check clutch.  When driving at about 30 in fifth gear, slip the clutch a little then floor the throttle at the same time as releasing the clutch - revs should snap back to where they should be.

 

With the bonnet up a little rattle from the direct injection is normal but there should be no noise from the timing chain area other than quietly for a very brief second on cold startup (oil pressurising last bit of tensioner). Check service history and look at the oil. This engine does darken the oil between services and it can sometimes smell a bit of petrol which is normal but long life services aren't good for this engine. Check the bumper around the rear of the exhaust, wipe with kitchen roll to see if there is any oil. It should feel pretty lively when driven pulling OK from 1500rpm with pull increasing as the revs rise to 3000rpm which is where it picks its skirt up and goes....

 

There are a few  things to know about the 1.4tsi S as well:-

• Facelift(post 63) has stop/start - which works well with the 1.4 (in fact it is hard to spot the engine turning off)
• It has a Single Mass Flywheel - ie NO Dual Mass Flywheel problems
• Water pump is not driven via the timing chain - it's a separate aux belt
• Obviously no DPF - Surprisingly simple catalyst with sensor either side of it.
• There is no EGR valve - this function is done by the variable valve timing
• It has an external Clutch salve cylinder (not the concentric one that goes pop inside the bellhousing)
• The sixth gear is a tall overdrive that it still pull it well - it's very quiet at motorway speeds (60mph is about 2000rpm in sixth)
• The standard 205/55 R16 tyres are cheap and seem to last a long time. Mine has responded well to Michelin Crossclimates which as well as driving well (especially in the wet)  are very quiet. Combined with the quiet engine makes this car a very refined ride.

 

You don't normally find integrated front/rear dash cams as they are illegal in some Europen countries (data protection). E.g. In Austria if you are caught with a dash cam inside the car (not even in use!) then it is a 10,000 Euro fine. Get caught a second time then it's 25,000 Euro!

 

Re Satnav - I'm sure I've seen stuff on this forum to install an Android head unit which looks interesting. However I have a Tomtom 5200 and a Brodit clip to neatly fit over one central air vent. I've tried allsorts of satnavs (built in, google etc..., other makes) and for me the latest Tomtoms work really well especially re the detailed traffic stuff:-

 

 

 

Edited 3 November, 20187 yr by bigjohn

I have found skoda octavia elegance which seems more efficient.

what got my attraction are

18inch alloy with 225/40

bhp 138, engine1.4tsi, combined fuel consumption is 53.3, acceleration 8.2

 

downside is

mileage 92k, road tax £120 and

price is £1000 over than the superb.

May 2014 1st registration.

 

1 OWNER - SERVICED @ 19K, 58K, 75K, 85K

 

NOW WHAT TO DO!!!

Forget about 18" unless you will be doing only motorway runs

 

Why such a big gap between 1st and 2nd service - 29k? 

@bigjohn"The sixth gear is a tall overdrive that it still pull it well - it's very quiet at motorway speeds (60mph is about 2000rpm in sixth)"

 

Interesting, my 6 speed will be sitting at about 1550/1600 rpm at 60.

 

Mines a 1.6 diesel FL though... it also has the single mass flywheel 

9 hours ago, automass said:

1 OWNER - SERVICED @ 19K, 58K, 75K, 85K

 

 

That near 30k mile interval between service 1 and 2 on the same oil would turn me away.

41 minutes ago, Shaunieboy said:

That near 30k mile interval between service 1 and 2 on the same oil would turn me away.

It's probably been on the motorway for most of that time.

 

92000 miles in 4 years points to a lot of long distance running.

8 minutes ago, chimaera said:

It's probably been on the motorway for most of that time.

 

92000 miles in 4 years points to a lot of long distance running.

That may be true (and indeed I bought my Superb with that mileage and age), but even the best modern synthetics should be changed at 20k. It points a little bit toward an owner who doesn't care or perhaps 'know'.

Or that they forgot to get the service book stamped. Certainly worth asking

 

I would stop going by Skoda Fuel Consumption figures for 'Comparisons' unless you drive inside a Temperature controlled building going no place with nobody in the car.

Your 0-62 mph times are also nothing to do with the seats occupied.

http://skoda.co.uk/pages/fuel-consumption-statement.aspx

 

9 hours ago, Shaunieboy said:

@bigjohn"The sixth gear is a tall overdrive that it still pull it well - it's very quiet at motorway speeds (60mph is about 2000rpm in sixth)"

 

Interesting, my 6 speed will be sitting at about 1550/1600 rpm at 60.

 

Mines a 1.6 diesel FL though... it also has the single mass flywheel 

 

Should I say tall for a small petrol. For a diesel yours is an overdrive as well - doing 1600rpm at 60mph means you'd be doing 150 mph at 4000rpm. Max power on petrols is at much higher revs. My Octavia (my sons now) does the same revs in 5th gear as my Superb does in 4th which then has two further gears to go.

 

I think the original poster is having to avoid Euro 5 or earlier diesels due to upcoming ULEZ London restrictions. I don't think any of the Superb II's were Euro 6.

 

 

Edited 4 November, 20187 yr by bigjohn