I'm just looking at putting some new tyres on. Although Elegance spec' a previous owner had put 16" wheels on, which I appreciate for the comfort however I'm thinking of changing these for 17s.  Tyre size needed is 225/45 R17 however I've never really looked at load ratings but seem to remember a specific rating is necessary for the Superb.

 

Can anybody tell me what I need?

Michelin Cross Climates?

 

Drefaldwyn

Quite a few Superb's require XL (Extra Load) tyres.

2 hours ago, drefaldwyn said:

Michelin Cross Climates?

 

Drefaldwyn

Thanks, they are actually top of my list!

1 hour ago, silver1011 said:

Quite a few Superb's require XL (Extra Load) tyres.

Thanks, any idea which ones? Maybe estates?

I think it's all 17" and 18" configurations.

 

The 16" set-up excluded.

36 minutes ago, Gdcobra said:

Thanks, any idea which ones? Maybe estates?

It's all in this thread:

 

Uniroyal RainSport 3

Seconded re Crossclimates -  great in all conditions especially really bad rain and they are really quiet. The original 205/55 R16 Continental tyres on mine were not XL but the Crossclimates are. Think all other sizes have XL as mentioned above. 

 

Suitable sizes, pressures etc are usually mentioned inside the fuel flap.

 

 

 

 

Edited 27 January, 20197 yr by bigjohn

Bridgestone A005 get my vote as  are wet rated A  compared to Crossclimates of B see YouTube

 

 

 

Edited 27 January, 20197 yr by Kenrw8

11 minutes ago, Kenrw8 said:

Bridgestone A005 get my vote as  are wet rated A  compared to Crossclimates of B

 

I had some 16" Bridgestones (not that model) on my Superb mk I way back when and they only lasted 18k miles. May not sound too bad but for comparison on the same car & driving, Michelin Energy tyres did 33k miles and Quatrac 5 tyres so far have lasted over 40kmiles (now under new ownership).

 

Edited 27 January, 20197 yr by bigjohn

10 hours ago, jafo said:

Uniroyal RainSport 3

I was a Rainsport Fanboy but since switching to Crossclimates they dont compare 
the Michelins will outlive my old Unis by two to one at this rate of wear and as said above they handle brilliant in the wet great in the dry very quiet and the past three days handled the snow superbly

5 hours ago, Kenrw8 said:

Bridgestone A005 get my vote as  are wet rated A  compared to Crossclimates of B see YouTube

 

Another test comparing them: http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2018-Auto-Bild-All-Season-Tyre-Test.htm

 

Probably not a bad tyre for most of the UK given the dry/wet performance although the snow performance and noise/wear let it down slightly.

As a private hire taxi driver for many years i’ve always bought premium tyres as no compromise on safety,I have tried all top brands. My conclusion a few years back was Michelin’s win hands down,now they have added the best all round tyre on the market the crossclimate + they are superb. Last year when the beast from the east decided to pay us a visit twice the crossclimates performed brilliantly and to get 32,000 miles out of a set of front tyres says it all,the rear ones have 42,000 on them and still have plenty tread left. These tyres perform brilliantly in wet or dry too and are planted to the road giving all the reassurance and confidence required,

8 hours ago, Errybee said:

As a private hire taxi driver for many years i’ve always bought premium tyres as no compromise on safety,I have tried all top brands. My conclusion a few years back was Michelin’s win hands down,now they have added the best all round tyre on the market the crossclimate + they are superb. Last year when the beast from the east decided to pay us a visit twice the crossclimates performed brilliantly and to get 32,000 miles out of a set of front tyres says it all,the rear ones have 42,000 on them and still have plenty tread left. These tyres perform brilliantly in wet or dry too and are planted to the road giving all the reassurance and confidence required,

Michelin Cross climates organised for fitting Thursday on my new (to me) 17" wheels!

I swap my wheels front to rear to even out wear and change all at same time.

3 hours ago, Gdcobra said:

Michelin Cross climates organised for fitting Thursday on my new (to me) 17" wheels!

I swap my wheels front to rear to even out wear and change all at same time.

 

Enjoy,

 

Remember when swapping around in the future that they are directional. I also swap front->rear rear->front but never OS->NS NS->OS.

I'm sticking with the Bridgestones

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2018-Auto-Bild-All-Season-Tyre-Test.htm

 

For safety they get Best in the dry and wet if wear is your reason then go for the Michelin .  As the above review states

 

The New Tyre

The most interesting part of this test must be the inclusion of the new Bridgestone Weather Control A005, as it's the first time this new tyre has featured in a full all season tyre test.

If you're just looking at the results as the overall standings, you'd be forgiven for dismissing the Bridgestone as a purchase option, but for the most of the UK this new tyre might actually be one of the BEST options for year round motoring in the UK.

Why? Because it has significant advantages in wet and dry braking, even beating the dry master the Michelin CrossClimate+, and matches the excellent performance in dry and wet handling. While it's snow performance is it's weakness, it's still significantly better than the reference summer tyre in the test. With the UK climate being dry or wet 99% of the year, the balance of performance the Bridgestone offers is more acceptable to our climate than it is to the German testers.

Edited 30 January, 20197 yr by Kenrw8

1 hour ago, Kenrw8 said:

I'm sticking with the Bridgestones

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2018-Auto-Bild-All-Season-Tyre-Test.htm

 

For safety they get Best in the dry and wet if wear is your reason then go for the Michelin .  As the above review states

 

The New Tyre

The most interesting part of this test must be the inclusion of the new Bridgestone Weather Control A005, as it's the first time this new tyre has featured in a full all season tyre test.

If you're just looking at the results as the overall standings, you'd be forgiven for dismissing the Bridgestone as a purchase option, but for the most of the UK this new tyre might actually be one of the BEST options for year round motoring in the UK.

Why? Because it has significant advantages in wet and dry braking, even beating the dry master the Michelin CrossClimate+, and matches the excellent performance in dry and wet handling. While it's snow performance is it's weakness, it's still significantly better than the reference summer tyre in the test. With the UK climate being dry or wet 99% of the year, the balance of performance the Bridgestone offers is more acceptable to our climate than it is to the German testers.

 

Except they came last overall in this test?
 
It's personal choice, for me the Crossclimates have been a revelation compared to anything else I've had. Previous Bridgestone and Goodyear tyres lasted half the mileage and Michelin Energy tyres were dreadful in the cold stuff. The Quatrac 5's were pretty good though except they felt a bit "squidgy" in really hot weather. You can go round in circles with reviews and you have to be careful with ones sponsored by the manufacturers (Michelin are bad for this as are Bridgestone, look at the banners on the earlier review quoted!). In real life I've found them to be fantastic be it cold, wet or hot but the best bit was how quiet they were. I suspect they will get replaced with more Crossclimates (my current ones are not the "+" though and the originals did get better wet weather rating)

 

 

 

 

Edited 30 January, 20197 yr by bigjohn

They may come last due to Snow & Ice rating but this review is based on the German winters. UK winters are shorter and not as bad.

 

As I my preference is UK conditions of over 11  months of wet / dry and periods below 5C and less than a month of Snow and Ice. The Bridgestones meet that criteria as best wet/dry and have better Snow performance than Summer tyres. My other choice would have been rainsport 3 but like all summer tyres  don't like temperature below 5C.

So overall its Bridgestone for the UK, climement + are only B rated for wet/dry.

If you want best then it has to be 3 sets, Summer tyres, All seasons for when temp is below 5C and Winter tyres. So comprises are needed and Bridgestone offer the best. 

If Bridgestone hadn't come along I would have comprised and got Michelin, I previously had TriStar all season 4S which saw me through 3 winters with ease, but wanted to better than budget 

F1 teams have tyres for varying weather conditions from summer soft to intermediates to wet tyres.

1 hour ago, Kenrw8 said:

 

If you want best then it has to be 3 sets, Summer tyres, All seasons for when temp is below 5C and Winter tyres. So comprises are needed and Bridgestone offer the best. 

 

 

As it happens at the moment I'm running my Crossclimates most of the year but still put on a set of Conti TS850 winter tyres when it get cold - more just to get value for money (I am in Yorkshire!) out of my winter tyres that were bought well before the Crossclimates as the car still had its original Continental summer tyres on still with loads of tread. 

 

Saying that I  probably left the TS850's on a bit late last year when it was warming up outside and had to do a full on 70mph to zero brown trouser emergency stop on the A1 and oh boy did thing stop, managed to avoid an accident -just.

Edited 30 January, 20197 yr by bigjohn

Did the sticky TS850's lose adhesion on the warmer surface even with ABS functioning?

I find winter / snow tyres are great at stopping in the Summer in straight lines and really good for acceleration and traction for Sprints / 1/4 mile strip etc.

How old are your winter tyres , newer ones are supposed to now have an expiry date.

Older tyres have earlier compounds compared to the newer tyres and don't have an expiry date. So there's a probability that the rubber has deteriorated beyond safety and need replacing.

1 minute ago, Kenrw8 said:

How old are your winter tyres , newer ones are supposed to now have an expiry date.

Older tyres have earlier compounds compared to the newer tyres and don't have an expiry date. So there's a probability that the rubber has deteriorated beyond safety and need replacing.

2015

31 minutes ago, Skoffski said:

Did the sticky TS850's lose adhesion on the warmer surface even with ABS functioning?

I find winter / snow tyres are great at stopping in the Summer in straight lines and really good for acceleration and traction for Sprints / 1/4 mile strip etc.

 

There was a bit of ABS chatter but no loss of adhesion. Stopped amazingly quickly and kept straight (well the car did - I was a wreck after. It was one of those life flashing in front of your eyes moments). It was a LHD lorry pulling onto the A1 (on one of those short slip lanes) that hadn't seen me then suddenly did and stopped halfway onto the A1, as the outside lane was busy there was nowhere to go. 

I would rather do an emergency stop in hot weather on hot / slick / low traction roads with 'winter tyres' fitted rather than with some of the Summer / ECO OEM tyres that cars have.

 

I would like to see tyre tests with cars with all seats occupied & the boot full and at revenue weight rather than at Un-laden / kerb weight.

Edited 30 January, 20197 yr by Skoffski