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1 hour ago, PetrolDave said:

I've bought tyres 5 times from mytyres.co.uk and have absoloutely no hesitation using them.

same here!

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  • Because there is a MASSIVE difference in price and performance where tyres are concerned... you know, just at a guess I would imagine the OP was after some real world reviews/experience on which tyres

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    I had Michelin cross climates on my 1.4tsi, they were a good tyre, good wear rates, lots of grip & a lot quieter.   Not the cheapest but, I don't skimp on tyres as they save lives

9 hours ago, TDIum said:

You've got 16 inch wheels so most likely your tyre size is one of the most common available. WTF do you need a recommendation from us on here? They are round and black. Go and buy some. 

 

4 hours ago, TDIum said:

:@  anyone got any more tyre recommends ?  :yawn:

 

Why be so horrible ?

I don’t think you’re comments are helpful or polite and not in the normal good spirit of this forum.

I got my wipers from Euro Car parts, Bosch ones using their discount code for about £27 the set a few months back. Think they got 55% off too at present 

ECP are ALWAYS discounting their massively inflated prices............

1 hour ago, Tilt said:

ECP are ALWAYS discounting their massively inflated prices............

Definitely! 

14 hours ago, courty said:

I got my wipers from Euro Car parts, Bosch ones using their discount code for about £27 the set a few months back. Think they got 55% off too at present 

 

+1 for Bosch.

 

I've just changed my blades, Amazon have the A860S (front blades) set for £24.24 and the A403H (rear) for £10.33.

I had Michelin cross climates on my 1.4tsi, they were a good tyre, good wear rates, lots of grip & a lot quieter.

 

Not the cheapest but, I don't skimp on tyres as they save lives

^^^ Tyres don't save lives.......................sensible driving saves lives, and a lot of heart-ache.

58 minutes ago, Tilt said:

^^^ Tyres don't save lives.......................sensible driving saves lives, and a lot of heart-ache.

 

Lots of things save lives on the roads including sensible driving but tyres can be a big factor. If I'd had a mixed bag of inferior tyres with little tread or a poorly maintained car I suspect the full on 70mph to zero emergency stop on the A1 I had a while ago would have ended differently. Possibly my tyres helped prevent what could have been a serious accident. Out of interest this was on a car shod in Continental TS850 Winter tyres.

 

My "summer" tyres are now Michelin Crossclimates which I think are great. The difference in noise compared to my original Continental summer tyres was amazing - they are really quiet. They have also performed well in hot conditions (summer driving through France etc) and cold They always feel surefooted - even in very wet conditions which is the usual "issue" on my commute. I'm still swapping to the TS850's for now in winter - just because I still have them and they have loads of tread on them - when these wear down a bit I'll be sticking to Crossclimates.

 

On my previous Superb I ran Michelin energy tyres and these were dreadful in the cold and wet.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited by bigjohn

36 minutes ago, Tilt said:

^^^ Tyres don't save lives.......................sensible driving saves lives, and a lot of heart-ache.

Sensible driving's all well an good until you need to brake & maneuver on a wet/greasy road and you've fitted the cheapest tyres money can buy......

 

My wife does around 2K miles per year, mainly the school run, rarely gets the opportunity to travel at over 50mph.  She is a REALLY careful driver (read "frustrating" when you're sitting in the passenger seat :D).

 

She went on a rare 40 miles round trip to a shopping centre with our 2yo in the back.  On the way home she was on a 50mph dual carriageway, massive gap between her and the car in front.

 

Some complete ****puffin decides to wait until she's very close and pull out from a business unit to the side of the road.  The road was a little wet, she slammed on, ABS cut in and thankfully, because I'd put half decent tyres on, she went in a straight line, stayed in her lane and avoided the collision.

 

There was nothing she could do about this other than react, she was already driving carefully.

^^^ I didn't say to put crap tyres on your car. But most tyres will deal with the conditions if a person drives with sensibility in those conditions, and pays attention to the road.

A driver can have the most expensive or the best tyres available on the market fitted on their car, but if they drive without due care and attention, or drive like an idiot (not saying anyone replying on this post does) then the tyres wont make much difference to saving a life, if any.

 

FYI I have Dunlop on the fronts and Falkens on the rears. All fairly new.

32 minutes ago, Tilt said:

^^^ I didn't say to put crap tyres on your car. But most tyres will deal with the conditions if a person drives with sensibility in those conditions, and pays attention to the road.

A driver can have the most expensive or the best tyres available on the market fitted on their car, but if they drive without due care and attention, or drive like an idiot (not saying anyone replying on this post does) then the tyres wont make much difference to saving a life, if any.

 

I disagree.

If we take a typical 'normal' driving scene, if you are driving considerately there will be maybe 1 in 5 (guess, could be more or less depending on location, time of day, etc.) who are not.  All this being the same, if you have a tyre that is known for good dry and wet performance fitted to all 4 wheels compared to a car with low spec tyres on mixed wheels, you are likely to have a dramatic safety difference.  No amount of driving "with sensibility in those conditions" will stop some idiot swerving without signally or some other unpredictable manoeuvre. 

 

Good/safe tyres don't have to be top spec but to say "most tyres will deal with the conditions" is quite naive in my opinion.

Elephant in the room or on the public highway is OEM Tyres that VW Group source and fit to new cars and then sell.

 

Pretty crap ECO Tyres even if supposedly performance tyres on performance cars, or All Season Tyres on AWD or SUV's or anything else.

Buyers / Drivers often can not wait to change these crap tyres for something better.

Then Dealerships hand over cars with tyres over inflated after a PDI where the tyres pressures are not checked / reset.

That and owners / drivers that do not check tyre pressures, or some that do then run the 'Eco' recommended pressures with these OEM ditch finders with 'Top Brand Names' 

and Top Brand poor performance 'all season' or 'all weather' or just generally.

38 minutes ago, MarkyG82 said:

No amount of driving "with sensibility in those conditions" will stop some idiot swerving without signally or some other unpredictable manoeuvre. 

 

But it is this same 'Idiot' that i was referring to. IE only an idiot driver would  drive on low spec tyres with mixed wheels.

And i was really referencing new tyres, new-ish, at least.

38 minutes ago, MarkyG82 said:

 

Good/safe tyres don't have to be top spec but to say "most tyres will deal with the conditions" is quite naive in my opinion.

 

I should have put most reasonable tyres, or something like that. 

 

I'm not naive at all. If the statement had have been that good tyres help save lives, then I probably would not have replied, because i would not have disagreed with that.

My main point is that the driver has a much more important role in saving lives than good tyres do. (crap tyres are not in the equation).

Good tyres may save you a few yards, or prevent you skidding (both of which are good) but the driver has to be paying enough attention in the first place to drive sensibly, or press the brake pedal, for any tyres to do their job.

 

So i should have said 'tyres alone, don't save lives'. 

That's fair enough.  It's a specific bugbear of mine.  There is a minimum standard for tyres in the UK (or EU?) and in my opinion it is far too low.  The cheapest tyres should be safe enough that you don't have to worry about safety in what is considered normal UK conditions (temps, wet, etc.).  The fact you can buy tyres that are considered 'ditchfinders' is scary.

Also I would make MOT requirements tighter on matching tyres etc.  My brother replaces tyres one at a time as they wear out and is always going on about how bad the roads are.  I've tried telling him to at least do an axle at a time and he'll notice a big difference but he wont listen.  He has a Nissan Xtrail too so no small runaround.

Don't forget there is a whole Thread on Tyres (in next section of index after model specific threads)

 

3mm is an advisory, I would wait 3-4 months then go with tyres with good ratings / reviews (sort by rating descending, not by price) 

Always best to go for a well rated tyre regardless of price, don't assume price automatically means the best

Obviously change them before the much wetter Autumn.

 

These days for UK makes much more sense to fit all season than summer tyres (even if originals are slightly cheaper summer tyres), Remember they are better below about +7c (happens a lot on winter mornings), no one in UK needs summer tyres designed for 40c (all season and summer are similar performance between +7c to +23c (exact temp varies by brand)  which is common in UK.

Generally only those in the Hills or North need full winter tyres.

 

Prices fluctuate with seasons, if going for all seasons, expect price rises about Sept-Oct when everyone realises their balding summer tyres need changing so demand goes up

 

I was under the impression that all season tyres are a similar compound to 'summer' tyres so temperature performance is similar.  Where they differ is construction and tread pattern/depth.  Isn't it the winter specific tyres that are rate for 7c and under?

1 hour ago, SurreyJohn said:

Don't forget there is a whole Tread on Tyres (in next section of index after model specific threads) :giggle:

 

 

 

53 minutes ago, MarkyG82 said:

I was under the impression that all season tyres are a similar compound to 'summer' tyres so temperature performance is similar.  Where they differ is construction and tread pattern/depth.  Isn't it the winter specific tyres that are rate for 7c and under?

 

All season tyres have a compound that doesn't suffer loss of performance under 7c, I know the CrossClimates are rated/certified as a full blown winter tyre

57 minutes ago, MarkyG82 said:

I was under the impression that all season tyres are a similar compound to 'summer' tyres so temperature performance is similar.  Where they differ is construction and tread pattern/depth.  Isn't it the winter specific tyres that are rate for 7c and under?

This will vary from manufacturer to manufacturer but I'd say in general no, the compounds will be (or should be) different.   All-season tyres will always have compromises/trade off between a dedicated Summer/Winter tyre but they'll share characteristics with both, allowing them to work all year round.  An all-season tyre would be pointless if it didn't work below ~5º so it will have a compound that stays supple when the temps drop but an overly soft compound would make them feel a bit squishy on dry roads, in Summer.  Likewise they'll have some siping or other propriety tread that makes them sticky in the snow but not so much that they again suffer in the Summer or under load/spirited driving.  It's all compromises and borrowing the 'best  bits' from a Summer and Winter tyre in an attempt to make something truly usable all-year round. 

 

Some all-season tyres are better in the Summer (Michelin Cross climates), some are better in the Winter (Nokian Weatherproof).  Having had well regarded, dedicated Summer and Winter tyres in the past and then switching to all-seasons (Vredestein Quatrac 5) I'd say the compromises at the weather/performance extremes are so marginal that I'm willing to take a hit and just have one set of tyres/wheels which I can use all-year round.  

 

This is a good video, which makes the point better than me! :D

 

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/7-of-the-best-all-season-tyres-for-2018.htm

 

& then there is rubbish like Bridgestone Duelers that are on Kodiak, Karoq, Ateca, Q3, and various other 'Softroads' that get delivered to the UK.

 

Globally, Internationally and even in Continental Europe or the UK there is a bit of confusion over, 

Summer / Winter / Wet Weather / All Season / All Weather / Winter / Snow tyres etc. 3 peak / M&S.

Lots crossing over seasons, and some all Season are summer not 3 peak certificated, they are all year round nothing specials. ie tyres.

& some 3 peak are summer tyres winter certificated.

Edited by Skoffski

My understanding (and happy to be corrected) is the compound (mixture of rubber and silica etc) is different, so that all season do not go hard until about -5c instead of about +7c of summer tyres

As it is physically impossible to make a tyre that is good when cold and not too soft when warmer each type has optimum temperature range (exact values differ by brand), as a rough guide :

summer tyre +6c to +40c

all season -5c to about +25c

winter -20c to +10c

 

performance falls off outside these ranges, but it should be usable,   colder and it will be harder and less grippy, much warmer and it is softer and wears faster

but clearly the middle one is closest to UK temperatures (although near South Coast could argue summer is more appropriate), simple solution in these areas, choose a summer biased all season

 

 

1 hour ago, SurreyJohn said:

My understanding (and happy to be corrected) is the compound (mixture of rubber and silica etc) is different, so that all season do not go hard until about -5c instead of about +7c of summer tyres

As it is physically impossible to make a tyre that is good when cold and not too soft when warmer each type has optimum temperature range (exact values differ by brand), as a rough guide :

summer tyre +6c to +40c

all season -5c to about +25c

winter -20c to +10c

 

performance falls off outside these ranges, but it should be usable,   colder and it will be harder and less grippy, much warmer and it is softer and wears faster

but clearly the middle one is closest to UK temperatures (although near South Coast could argue summer is more appropriate), simple solution in these areas, choose a summer biased all season

 

 

 

 

All season tyres can differ, buy the one that suits your driving and climate.

 

 

21 hours ago, Tilt said:

^^^ Tyres don't save lives.......................sensible driving saves lives, and a lot of heart-ache.

Why have you got the "L" in your name ?

I think we know what was meant.

Anyone with all the gear / best tyres and no idea / drives like a tit on the way to work early in the morning is still a liability.

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