So. Managed to vcds code the esc and traction control to totally off with a long press. However it still annoyingly comes back on when I get to 60mph. 

Car is a superb sportline 4x4 with front assist 

Have asked on the superb bit but no one in there appears to be modding lol. Booooring 

so has anyone on here had this issue and anyway it can be switched off and stay off regardless of speed. This would be most useful for trips to a certain place Germany if you know what I mean 

I have to ask!

Why do you want to completely switch off the safety systems that keep the car straight and true and can react way quicker than you, especially if you are going to 'storm an Autobahn ' at bonkers speeds? If you are losing traction on hard accels at high speed with a 4x4/AWD, I'd be looking at the tyres first.

I'll guarantee that when you are wringin' it out, somebody will pull out on you and ask a lot of your chassis and brakes and at that point, you may just have a smidgen of regret. Having a large family car squirming around under my pants at 150mph is not something I particularly found enjoyable when I was paid to validate chassis systems in a controlled environment, let alone on a public highway (yes I did that too).

Was talking about the Nurburgring. Massively interferes and over heats the brakes with its constant faffage. 

Autobahn yes it’s NEEDS to be very much on 

I always find it amusing that after every 'how do i switch this safety system off' there's the accompanying 'why would you want to'.

 

I appreciate that there are some plonkers out there who should not be allowed to switch it off (that's why it exists in the first place, no?)   but there are some of us who can cog a car pretty well and don't want their shenanigans interfered with (in the controlled environment of a circuit, naturally).  My track car has no electronic interference and it's not spat me in a hedge....yet  

 

To answer the OP question...I have ESP OFF coded on my mk3 VRS, haven't really used it much since i coded it in so will investigate whether it switches back on at 60MPH + today. There is a adaptation channel for ESP relating to speed from memory, but i haven't adjusted any of that, will see how ESP OFF behaves with speed and see how that channel differs from yours or not. 

 

 

Also interested how well the superb performs at the 'ring?  I'm tempted to take my VRS just to say both my cars have done a lap  

On 20/05/2019 at 11:09, uttanutta12 said:

I always find it amusing that after every 'how do i switch this safety system off' there's the accompanying 'why would you want to'.

 

I appreciate that there are some plonkers out there who should not be allowed to switch it off (that's why it exists in the first place, no?)   but there are some of us who can cog a car pretty well and don't want their shenanigans interfered with (in the controlled environment of a circuit, naturally).  My track car has no electronic interference and it's not spat me in a hedge....yet  

 

To answer the OP question...I have ESP OFF coded on my mk3 VRS, haven't really used it much since i coded it in so will investigate whether it switches back on at 60MPH + today. There is a adaptation channel for ESP relating to speed from memory, but i haven't adjusted any of that, will see how ESP OFF behaves with speed and see how that channel differs from yours or not. 

 

 

Also interested how well the superb performs at the 'ring?  I'm tempted to take my VRS just to say both my cars have done a lap  

Hi @uttanutta12

Do you have instructions for switching the ESP off on MK3 Octavias? (I have a MY19 non-vRS)

I have found it to be very intrusive when trying to chuck my Octavia around. It feels very much like a spoilsport taking control of the car when it thinks I'm doing something it doesn't approve of.

Ideally I'd like to be able to adjust the criteria when it kicks in, but I'd settle for being able to turn it off.

 

4 minutes ago, EnterName said:

Hi @uttanutta12

Do you have instructions for switching the ESP off on MK3 Octavias? (I have a MY19 non-vRS)

I have found it to be very intrusive when trying to chuck my Octavia around. It feels very much like a spoilsport taking control of the car when it thinks I'm doing something it doesn't approve of.

Ideally I'd like to be able to adjust the criteria when it kicks in, but I'd settle for being able to turn it off.

 

You'll need VCDS or similar to adjust the coding within the ABS module of the car. 

 

I did it as per this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lUtH012kec as the controller is the same. But you must check for your car, before adjusting anything! :) 

On 15/09/2020 at 08:52, uttanutta12 said:

You'll need VCDS or similar to adjust the coding within the ABS module of the car. 

 

I did it as per this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lUtH012kec as the controller is the same. But you must check for your car, before adjusting anything!

Thanks for the link, I'll check it out.

I actually had a little play with the car yesterday, and just turning the ESP off via the menu seemed to improve things WRT chucking the car around without the nanny stuff kicking in. I think the electronic diff  is still working with ESP switched off, though that actually seemed to be a good thing.

(Or it was my imagination and the Octavia actually handles pretty well with all the electronic stuff turned off.) Anyway, turning the ESP off solved my "I don't like this!" problem.

I suppose I'm still getting used to it.

4 hours ago, EnterName said:

Thanks for the link, I'll check it out.

I actually had a little play with the car yesterday, and just turning the ESP off via the menu seemed to improve things WRT chucking the car around without the nanny stuff kicking in. I think the electronic diff  is still working with ESP switched off, though that actually seemed to be a good thing.

(Or it was my imagination and the Octavia actually handles pretty well with all the electronic stuff turned off.) Anyway, turning the ESP off solved my "I don't like this!" problem.

I suppose I'm still getting used to it.

Was it ESC Sport or ESC off?

 

Sport relies more on the steering input, so if you're smooth it'll move around more. If you're aggressive it tends to think you're having an accident 

4 hours ago, uttanutta12 said:

Was it ESC Sport or ESC off?

 

Sport relies more on the steering input, so if you're smooth it'll move around more. If you're aggressive it tends to think you're having an accident 

This is what the car says. I was not in sport mode.

TC / Traction Control / ASR / Anti Slip Regulation / XDS / XDS+ or any other term being OFF is not the same as the ESC / ESP being off. Not just front but also the rear.

Electronic Stability Programme / Electronic Stability Control.

As @e-Roottoot says that is just traction control, not stability control i'm afraid!

Its there for a reason. ESC Sport function is really good , i have tested myself and it allows to do some sick sideways fun in the snow. While ASR OFF dont allow for such things.

14 hours ago, e-Roottoot said:

TC / Traction Control / ASR / Anti Slip Regulation / XDS / XDS+ or any other term being OFF is not the same as the ESC / ESP being off. Not just front but also the rear.

Electronic Stability Programme / Electronic Stability Control.

Thanks for that, I'll have a bit more of a play driving with the car and see how it goes.

Turning the traction control off certainly seemed to improve my driving experience going round islands. If the stability control remains in operation but doesn't get in the way, I can live with that.

@User-C

Which is why the advice is in Owners Manuals about those circumstances and also when using snow chains.

Well actually they say to free yourself if stuck in snow..

 

@EnterName

There are posts from members in Norway and elsewhere about 'Inhibiting / turning off' the ESP / ESC for fun in the snow, 

then also fun on Motorsport tracks.

As it is with XDS & XDS+ when the Brake Fluid or the braking system gets too hot it disables it's self anyway.

 

With a Mk2 Fabia vRS and others you could turn it down, or up or put 'Off'.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/227295-who-needs-a-lsd

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/474230-disable-esp-vcds

 

 

Edited 18 September, 20205 yr by e-Roottoot

12 minutes ago, e-Roottoot said:

@User-C

Which is why the advice is in Owners Manuals about those circumstances and also when using snow chains.

 

@EnterName

There are posts from members in Norway and elsewhere about 'Inhibiting / turning off' the ESP / ESC for fun in the snow, 

then also fun on Motorsport tracks.

As it is with XDS & XDS+ when the Brake Fluid or the braking system gets too hot it disables it's self anyway.

 

With a Mk2 Fabia vRS and others you could turn it down, or up or put 'Off'.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/227295-who-needs-a-lsd

 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/474230-disable-esp-vcds

 

 

I think the traction control was the majority of the problem, and switching it off will probably be enough for me.

It's still early days with the car yet, and I've barely put a couple of hundred miles on the car since I bought it during lockdown.

I'll see how I get on with it.

I think it'll be okay, but if it's not, I'll have to bite the bullet and swap it for something different.

Or just put up with it.

19 hours ago, EnterName said:

This is what the car says. I was not in sport mode.

If you only have those options then you cannot change the ESC mode.

 

My 1.4 Elegance didn't use to have the option for ESC Sport so I changed the coding of the ABS module with VCDS to add them, al I had to do was change byte 29 of the ABS coding from 02 to 09. I now have 3 options: ESC On, ASR Off & ESC Sport.

I'd say putting the car into ESC sport mode gives you a bit of 'slip', but you're still safe in the knowledge that if things go pear shaped, then the car still has the ability to right itself.

On 02/05/2019 at 16:24, BigEjit said:

I have to ask!

Why do you want to completely switch off the safety systems that keep the car straight and true and can react way quicker than you, especially if you are going to 'storm an Autobahn ' at bonkers speeds? If you are losing traction on hard accels at high speed with a 4x4/AWD, I'd be looking at the tyres first.

I'll guarantee that when you are wringin' it out, somebody will pull out on you and ask a lot of your chassis and brakes and at that point, you may just have a smidgen of regret. Having a large family car squirming around under my pants at 150mph is not something I particularly found enjoyable when I was paid to validate chassis systems in a controlled environment, let alone on a public highway (yes I did that too).

Race mode on the Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio turns EVERY drivers aid off

 

Yes that does include EVEN the ABS😳😳😳

There's a time and a place for all the knobs and buttons and the setting and functionalities in our cars.

I rarely switch my ESC to 'OFF', but it's nice to be able to when I feel the need.

 

 

 

On 15/09/2020 at 17:52, uttanutta12 said:

I did it as per this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lUtH012kec as the controller is the same. But you must check for your car, before adjusting anything!

 

Seeking some clarification here, all the acronyms and modes are confusing me. For simplicity's sake, let's say TC = traction control and SC = stability control (independent braking of corners). As is my understanding, stock setup is-

 

Default- TC & SC on

1 press- TC reduced, SC on

Hold- TC & SC reduced

 

Long code 06 as per video is-

Default- no change

1 press- TC & SC reduced

Hold- TC & SC 100% disabled

 

Am I close?

Edited 21 September, 20205 yr by TrinityJay
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10 hours ago, TrinityJay said:

 

Seeking some clarification here, all the acronyms and modes are confusing me. For simplicity's sake, let's say TC = traction control and SC = stability control (independent braking of corners). As is my understanding, stock setup is-

 

Default- TC & SC on

1 press- TC reduced, SC on

Hold- TC & SC reduced

 

Long code 06 as per video is-

Default- no change

1 press- TC & SC reduced

Hold- TC & SC 100% disabled

 

Am I close?

 

You're not far off, just the TC is only on or off, no reduced function.

 

All to remember on the skoda is ASR = TC and ESC = SC 

 

It's been a while but as I remember 

 

Default - TC & SC on

1 press - TC off, SC on

Hold - TC off, SC 'Sport/Reduced'

 

Long code 06 

Default - no change

1 press (it seems to change to a very firm, slightly elongated press from a quick flick of the button though?) - TC off, SC reduced

Hold - TC & SC off

 

14 minutes ago, uttanutta12 said:

You're not far off, just the TC is only on or off, no reduced function.

 

Oh really? That's interesting, because I've read that to get it OFF off requires VCDS. I'll have to test this tomorrow  

42 minutes ago, TrinityJay said:

 

Oh really? That's interesting, because I've read that to get it OFF off requires VCDS. I'll have to test this tomorrow  

 

Yes but just traction control, it still runs stability in the reduced function

 

Need VCDS to deactivate the SC fully

So after holding the button in I did a 1st gear pull. When boost came on I heard the tyres scrabbling and the revs squirmed a bit, I assume VAQ doing something. At around 4,500RPM I noticed the TC light blinking and the tyres were very much struggling, but it didn't feel or sound like power was being cut, then I backed off. What would the blinking light indicate if not TC kicking in? This was in a straight line so ESC shouldn't be a factor.