The Suberb is almost 5 years old...

[StuartTunstall]

Hi,

 

Not been on here for a while, well logged in although looked :)

 

Car went into Des Winks Volkswagen and Skoda in Scarborough yesterday for Service, MOT, Timing belt/water pump, DSG gearbox service and brake fluid change.... Oh and now front discs and pads :)

 

Sent me a health check video and the front brake inner surface was very badly scored and uneven, even though the outside was not too bad... so maybe worth looking at the inside of you discs...

 

Oh well just over £1300 lol.... only money and cheaper than swapping the car... besides it has only done 32000 miles in 5 years and is a fantastic car, my "pride and joy", keep thinking a new Superb would be nice but at 6000 miles a year it would cost me a damn site more to get a new one..

 

Problem is, same again next Friday when the Rapid goes in .. teach me to have two cars the same age..

 

Cant believe the Superb is 5 years old the end of June ... but at least it had FULL dealer service history and I know it's safe...

 

Yes, I know there are some great independent specialist out there that would have charged me half that, but the dealers have been good to me over the years even fitting a new engine as a goodwill in my old Ibiza when it was out of warranty at no cost to me, so in my opinion yes, I may a little more, but it does help if you need them...

 

I must say Des Winks Volkswagen and Skoda service is fantastic, very professional and nice to deal with, and the first thing I noticed when I drove away was how much smoother the gearbox was, you can hardly tell it changes gear...

 

Now, as the 5 year warranty runs out the end of the month I am looking at doing the Skoda extended warranty which, with a £250 excess is about £23 a month... mainly for the DSG gearbox, what do you think? looks to cover most stuff apart from "wear and tear" which is to be expected...

 

Stuart

[lichfielddriver]

32k in 5 years?....

 

6k a year?

 

why the cambelt?

Edited 2 June, 2019 by lichfielddriver

[StuartTunstall]

Yes, it only used at weekends (Friday to Sunday) and holidays... so does about 6-7000 a year, Rapid does 16000 a year ..

 

As per Skoda service schedule, 5 years or 80000 miles whichever comes first... I think prior to 2010 the interval is 4 years ..

 

Oh, and the Rapid goes in next Friday for the same stuff almost

Edited 2 June, 2019 by StuartTunstall

[Nathanio]

16 minutes ago, lichfielddriver said:

32k in 5 years?....

 

6k a year?

 

why the cambelt?

Probably because it's due every 5years.....

[TheRobinK]

5 hours ago, Nathanio said:

Probably because it's due every 5years.....

 

Yup, I got a letter saying mine is due soon. That will be 5 years since it was first registered.  

[lichfielddriver]

19 hours ago, Nathanio said:

Probably because it's due every 5years.....

 

Forgot that

 

Shame to spend that much on a little used car though

 

Id go for a petrol with a camchain engine 

[StuartTunstall]

IF I do change the Superb, and it is a big IF as I love the car I would look at a Superb 280 petrol, but at 6000 miles a year and it is in mint/perfect condition, although I have just spent £1300 it would cost me a lot more to change it... :)

[Nathanio]

If I only did 6000 miles a year I'd be in a 3.6 V6 at the drop of a hat!

[silver1011]

Wow, £1,300.

 

You'd have hoped given all you've had done they'd have offered you a slightly more generous discount?

 

These are Skoda UK's fixed price servicing and maintenance costs...

 

Major Service - £289

MOT - £39

Cambelt & Waterpump - £529

DSG Oil Change - £189

Brake Fluid - £60

Front Discs & Pads - £275

TOTAL - £1,381

[SuperbTWM]

8 hours ago, lichfielddriver said:

 

Id go for a petrol with a camchain engine 

 

I would but it wouldn't be a car from VAG with their track record with timing chains and petrol engines 

Edited 3 June, 2019 by SuperbTWM

[bigjohn]

I'd still say time to go to a good independent garage for some stuff.

 

Saying that I have found service at my Local dealer pretty good value at the cheaper rates for cars over three years (mine is 2014)  but I did take it to my independent to get front disks and pads (£155) which had failed in the same way as yours (disks OK on the outside but poor on the inside).

 

Mine is one the last 1.4tsi  cam chain versions so fingers crossed - always serviced at fixed 9500 miles as I don't like long life servicing. I chose this version for various reasons 

1. It was way way cheaper than the diesel used  (bought in 2015 at 14months old pre dieselgate)
2.  I was surprised how well it drove and how quiet it was
3. I also tried to test fuel economy on the test drive - showed up as 44mpg , in real life average has since been nearly 46mpg
4. External clutch slave cylinder - not a fan of concentric
5. Water pump fed via Aux belt - not the cam chain
6. No DMF
7. No DPF
8. No EGR valve(function done by variable valve timing)

Some potential downsides

1. The infamous 1.4 timing chain - hopefully OK with this later revision and very regular oil changes
2. Complicated direct injection - although the catalyst and sensors stiil fairly simple
3. Potential inlet valve carboning up - again this is a later version and oil breather / variable valve timing has been revised -time will tell
4. It doesn't like being overfilled with petrol - stop at one click
5. It's got expensive tastes - it rather likes higer octane petrol 🤑

 

We shall see - but running well at 74,000 miles and using very little oil. Economy still the same as when I bought it at 14,000 miles and performance is better than you would imagine for a small engine in such a big barge and it's a great long distance cruiser.

 

 

 

 

Edited 3 June, 2019 by bigjohn

[Raptor]

I am with Stuart on this one. I remember him buying his car about the same time as me. Mine is 5 years old and does 5k year, is in mint condition. 

Recently had a service and cam belt. I read somewhere that if a recognised local indi within a ( I  forget the number ) of miles radius to the dealer, then the Skoda dealer will match their offer and they did, saved me a lot of money.

 

A week or two later, heater fan failed.

Spoke to Skoda and they agreed 24000miles should not result in fan failure.

They spoke to the local dealer and gave me a very discount.

 Swings and roundabouts but for me, using the local skoda dealers has paid off over range years. 

Edited 7 June, 2019 by Raptor

[StuartTunstall]

Just had the Rapid in today, service, MOT, timing belt kit and water pump and a brake fluid change... same age as the Superb, registered two days different and Des Winks service again was fantastic..

 

I agree with the above, yes, there are some fantastic independents out there, and yes they are cheaper but it is swings and roundabouts... as I said Seat put a new engine in my Ibiza when it was out of warranty and above the 60000 miles at little charge to me.. I may have still got a contribution without dealer loyalty but would I have got it all? I suspect not, maybe 50% max... worth the extra in my opinion.. 

[26DIPP]

On 02/06/2019 at 17:31, Nathanio said:

Probably because it's due every 5years.....

Same car with LHD, same engine and drivetrain - cambelt change recommendation by Skoda Germany 210000 Km or about 130000 miles without time limit.

[StuartTunstall]

Skoda UK it is 80000 miles or 5 years,  If I remember correctly this is for cars from 2010, prior to that it was every 4 years...

[TheRobinK]

Skoda Ireland were saying 210,000 km (130,000 miles). There was some question about the age stipulation being 5 years or there being no age stipulation. 

 

Well,  I recently got a letter from them saying I'm just about to hit 5 years and it is their "guidance" that it is due. 

 

Current offer here from Skoda is €450 (that's about £400 sterling at todays exchange rate). The price is stated to cover a new timing belt, tensioners, water pump and coolant. I'll be taking them up on that...  

 

To quote the website on my Superb 2: Replace Timing Belt.  RRP: €450.00 -  "ŠKODA advise as a guide having your timing belt replaced within 5 years of driving. As part of the pricing we include Timing tension pullies, a new water pump and coolant ."

[StuartTunstall]

I paid £569 including vat for all labour, and additional parts required, rollers/bolts/coolant etc, and water pump on the Superb ... I suppose at 32000 miles i could have taken the risk and left it a bit longer, but if a belt went it would cost a damn site more...

[TheRobinK]

I'm at about 42,000 miles. I agree with being belt & braces on the timing belt and the coolant pump at the same time. A VW tech I met was highly insistent that the water pump was always trouble some after 5 years and the rule should be switched around to  "...do the water pump at 5 years and the belt while you are at it."

 

Seems to make some sense - there are lots of posts on the forums here about pump failures. 

[StuartTunstall]

I think that the water pumps do cause a lot of issues which is why they advise changing them both, but makes sense really as the belt drives the pump :)

 

Strange thing is why am I nervous  when I drive the Superb and the Rapid now they have been done lol... funny enough I was the same when I had one done on my old Leon :)

[ChrisRJ]

I had the cam belt and water pump done recently at a local indy, car 5 years old. Yhey showed me the old pump when I went to collect the car, it was very close to failing completely, which would have been an expensive failure.

[310golfr]

am i right in saying, when you get a genuine water pump from vw/skoda, its not a new one they give you

there all reconditioned     😭

[Tech1e]

Just now, 310golfr said:

am i right in saying, when you get a genuine water pump from vw/skoda, its not a new one they give you

there all reconditioned     😭

 

Matters not either way. The recon units pass the same end of line testing as brand new parts.

[310golfr]

never liked the idea of reconditioned though

its just the thought, that genuine pump might have done 100.000 miles or so   😩

[StuartTunstall]

From working at a dealer many years ago and in the after market as a VW specialist recon part numbers usually end the part part number with an "X" .. the part number fitted to both my cars did not have this so I suspect they are in fact new units

[tiffersdog]

I can confirm that the VW group are moving away from re manufactured units to new ones, the reman ones were as new anyway with anything that failed the tolerances required of a new pump basically being thrown out and a new part substituted hence re manufactured rather than reconditioned terminology being used.