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Merry Christmas and best wishes for the New Year to everyone.

 

I’ve recently bought a vRS 245, but I’m disappointed that it doesn’t have the performance gauges in/on the infotainment screen.

 

Does anybody know if these can be coded in, and if so, by who?

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What do you mean by "coded in" ?

If you mean modding Skoda firmware, you can forget about it.

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22 minutes ago, RicardoM said:

What do you mean by "coded in" ?

If you mean modding Skoda firmware, you can forget about it.

By 'coded in' I mean activating features of the car - via VCDS - that aren't activated by the factory. 

 

Someone will correct me if I'm wrong but I think it needs the next level up from VCDS, like Vagcom or whatever it's called. TBH I have the old RS245 which comes with the sport gauges standard and I never use them. The boost is inaccurate and the G meter is just a gimmick. Everything else is available on the gauge cluster.

3 hours ago, SmokinJoeFrazier said:

By 'coded in' I mean activating features of the car - via VCDS - that aren't activated by the factory. 

That is called 'unlocking'. Coding means writing additional code into an existing software.

If the feature you want to unlock is available, you'll need a VCDS interface. Or you can ask a member that has one to help you. See this map

4 hours ago, StealthRS245 said:

Someone will correct me if I'm wrong but I think it needs the next level up from VCDS, like Vagcom or whatever it's called. 

Vagcom = VCDS. Ross-Tech changed the name from Vagcom to VCDS several years ago after they were approached by VW claiming possible copyright infringement.

 

Maybe you are referring to VCP?

45 minutes ago, RicardoM said:

That is called 'unlocking'. Coding means writing additional code into an existing software.

If the feature you want to unlock is available, you'll need a VCDS interface. Or you can ask a member that has one to help you. See this map

I think this must be a language difference.

 

In English/American the phrase "changing the coding" when applies to firmware in cars is used to mean changing the string that selects which options in the firmware are enabled/configured but NOT changing the actual firmware ("the "code"). If you look at the appropriate VCDS screen it uses the word "Coding"... to select this option.

I have these gauges on my GTI.  If you lived closer, you could have a go in my car, and you'd soon get over your disappointment - it'd only take a few seconds.  As Stealth says, they're a bit of a pointless gimmick (IMO).

 

If you think about it, the more you use the car's performance, the less it makes sense to be looking at a couple of dials on you centre console as there'll be more important things to be paying attention to outside the car.

 

Gaz

 

RS mode in virtual cockpit will show you engine power in kw, revs and engine temp, but that's it. Info in infotainment  of course is lackluster.

rs mode.jpg

8 minutes ago, lazygh0st said:

RS mode in virtual cockpit

Doesn't answer @CallmeGaz point that you shouldn't be looking at the v-cockpit in performance driving.

Edited by KenONeill

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6 hours ago, RicardoM said:

That is called 'unlocking'. Coding means writing additional code into an existing software.

If the feature you want to unlock is available, you'll need a VCDS interface. Or you can ask a member that has one to help you. See this map

Technically you're right, but in England we usually refer to unlocking as coding. 

Thank you for the map.

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7 hours ago, PetrolDave said:

Vagcom = VCDS. Ross-Tech changed the name from Vagcom to VCDS several years ago after they were approached by VW claiming possible copyright infringement.

 

Maybe you are referring to VCP?

Is that what it's called now? 

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7 hours ago, PetrolDave said:

I think this must be a language difference.

 

In English/American the phrase "changing the coding" when applies to firmware in cars is used to mean changing the string that selects which options in the firmware are enabled/configured but NOT changing the actual firmware ("the "code"). If you look at the appropriate VCDS screen it uses the word "Coding"... to select this option.

The Carly App refers to it as coding too.

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4 hours ago, CallmeGaz said:

I have these gauges on my GTI.  If you lived closer, you could have a go in my car, and you'd soon get over your disappointment - it'd only take a few seconds.  As Stealth says, they're a bit of a pointless gimmick (IMO).

 

If you think about it, the more you use the car's performance, the less it makes sense to be looking at a couple of dials on you centre console as there'll be more important things to be paying attention to outside the car.

 

Gaz

 

They may well be a gimmick and pointless, and not having them isn't the end of the world. But I would like them, if it's at all possible to activate them.

After 30 years of driving 'performance' cars, I wasn't really looking for advice on driving, but thanks anyway.

 

John

 

 

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2 hours ago, lazygh0st said:

RS mode in virtual cockpit will show you engine power in kw, revs and engine temp, but that's it. Info in infotainment  of course is lackluster.

 

2 hours ago, lazygh0st said:

RS mode in virtual cockpit will show you engine power in kw, revs and engine temp, but that's it. Info in infotainment  of course is lackluster.

rs mode.jpg

2 hours ago, lazygh0st said:

RS mode in virtual cockpit will show you engine power in kw, revs and engine temp, but that's it. Info in infotainment  of course is lackluster.

rs mode.jpg

My car doesn't have the virtual cockpit. But thanks for the reply.

rs mode.jpg

 

14 hours ago, SmokinJoeFrazier said:

Merry Christmas and best wishes for the New Year to everyone.

 

I’ve recently bought a vRS 245, but I’m disappointed that it doesn’t have the performance gauges in/on the infotainment screen.

 

Does anybody know if these can be coded in, and if so, by who?

 

My vRS has them in the head unit. Go to Car and then they are in there somewhere. 

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10 hours ago, Steve vRS said:

 

My vRS has them in the head unit. Go to Car and then they are in there somewhere. 

Thanks Steve.

Mine’s a MY19 and it doesn’t appear in the ‘car’ menu. Since they introduced the Challenge, the normal 245 doesn’t have this function.

But the infotainment system is the same as the Challenge, so I’m assuming they just didn’t activate it at the factory on the normal 245.

 

John

19 hours ago, PetrolDave said:

Vagcom = VCDS. Ross-Tech changed the name from Vagcom to VCDS several years ago after they were approached by VW claiming possible copyright infringement.

 

Maybe you are referring to VCP?

Yes sorry that's it. I remember reading a post by Sasha about it, she would definitely be able to help here

 

Edit: @SmokinJoeFrazier check this thread for more info: 

 

Edited by StealthRS245

If you have the MY19 245 then or any Amundsen with 04xx firmware then you can activate the Off Road screen with VCDS level tools and enable the water and oil temperature gauges. If you want the Sport screen with a separate tab to open it and the G meter and lap timer then you will need ODIS-E to add the FeC to the radio. The workaround is much easier and gives you everything you really need with at home tools on the newer Amundsen’s.

On 26/12/2019 at 08:01, RicardoM said:

That is called 'unlocking'. Coding means writing additional code into an existing software.

If the feature you want to unlock is available, you'll need a VCDS interface. Or you can ask a member that has one to help you. See this map

 

It isn't, it is called coding.

 

To enable or disable features you change the long coding (bits and bytes) to enable or disable certain functions.

2 hours ago, SashaGrace said:

If you have the MY19 245 then or any Amundsen with 04xx firmware then you can activate the Off Road screen with VCDS level tools and enable the water and oil temperature gauges.

Got coding/adaptation changes please?

3 hours ago, silver1011 said:

It isn't, it is called coding.

Coding = Computer programming = Writing computer instructions or code (in a specific programming language) hence coding.

What you wrongly call "coding" is in fact SETTING on or off some variables using a graphic interface. A whole different thing.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_programming

Edited by RicardoM

When the two most popular tools in VCDS and OBDeleven both refer to the process as 'long coding' (as distinct from setting adaptation channels) I think it's safe to say everyone knows what is meant by coding when referring to making modifications on VAG group cars.

 

I've never seen anyone else ever refer to the process as unlocking rather than coding or long coding. 

 

Nor do people frequently actually delve into raw software code to modify that, so there's no potential for confusion about what is being asked for or what is being carried out. 

 

It's an entirely unnecessary 'correction'. 

1 hour ago, RicardoM said:

What you wrongly call "coding" is in fact SETTING on or off some variables using a graphic interface. A whole different thing.

 

I admire your persistence, but in this instance you're wrong.

 

Edited by silver1011

4 hours ago, PetrolDave said:

Got coding/adaptation changes please?

Menu Display Compass - OFF ROAD WITH AND WITHOUT NAV
1 - Module 5F - Electronic Information 1. Code (20103)
2 - Adaptation
3 - Select - Car Function Adaptations Gen 2
4 - Search submenu - Menu compass display (ON)
5 - Search submenu - Menu display compass over threshold (ON)
6 - Select - Car Function List Bap Gen 2
7 - Search submenu - Compass 0x15 (ON)
8 - Search submenu - 0x15 Compass msgbus (data bus comfort)
9 - Byte 24 Navigation System
10 - Change value to On.
This mod does not allow all functions without NAV.
Logically altitude and compass does not display data.
Also reports a fault in the module 5F saying that environmental data missing
(Only reports to do analysis with OBDeleven, nothing comes on screen)
With NAV everything works 100%
If you want to show the angle of rotation of the wheels on this menu you have to make the Slope Angle mod below.

 

Menu Display Angle of Slope - angle of rotation of the wheels 
With this modification you can add new functionality to Mod OFFROAD Display Menu.
This mod by itself does not work, you must have activated the OFFROAD menu.
This will show graphically the angle of rotation of the wheels to turn the wheel.
1 - Module 5F - Electronic Information 1. Code (20103)
2 - Adaptation
3 - Select - Car Function Adaptations Gen 2
4 - Search submenu - Menu display angle of slope (ON)
5 - Search submenu - Menu display angle of slope over threshold (ON)
6 - Select - Car Function List Bap Gen 2
7 - Search submenu - Angle of stope 0x24 (ON)
8 - Search submenu - 0x24 Angle of stope msg bus (data bus comfort)

 

Display Sport Temp gauges in Off Road Screen

With this mod the Off Road screen can be used to display water and oil temp gauges without activating the Sport screen via ODIS. Has been tested on all 04xx Amundsen FL software and on MIB2.5 Columbus 11xx software. Others may work.

1 - Module 5F - Electronic Information 1. Code (20103)
2 - Adaptation
3 - Select - Car Function Adaptations Gen 2
4 - Search submenu - Menu display Sport HMI – Enable
5 - Search submenu - Menu display Sport HMI after disclaimer – Enable

6 - Search submenu - Menu display Sport HMI Clamp_15 (Or Terminal_15) – Enable

7 - Search submenu - Menu display Sport HMI over threshold High – Enable 

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