7 hours ago, SashaGrace said:

If you have the MY19 245 then or any Amundsen with 04xx firmware then you can activate the Off Road screen with VCDS level tools and enable the water and oil temperature gauges. If you want the Sport screen with a separate tab to open it and the G meter and lap timer then you will need ODIS-E to add the FeC to the radio. The workaround is much easier and gives you everything you really need with at home tools on the newer Amundsen’s.

Brilliant, thank you Sasha.

Yes, it’s the Sport screen with a tab to open it that I want.

What is ODIS-E and FeC? 

Where can I get ODIS-E and is it something I can do myself, without any sort of expertise?

My knowledge of coding (or unlocking) is limited to what I can do with the Carly App, which isn’t a lot!

 

Edited 27 December, 20196 yr by SmokinJoeFrazier

On 26/12/2019 at 15:01, SmokinJoeFrazier said:

Technically you may be right, but in England we usually refer to unlocking as coding. 

Thank you for the map.

 

7 hours ago, SashaGrace said:

If you have the MY19 245 then or any Amundsen with 04xx firmware then you can activate the Off Road screen with VCDS level tools and enable the water and oil temperature gauges. If you want the Sport screen with a separate tab to open it and the G meter and lap timer then you will need ODIS-E to add the FeC to the radio. The workaround is much easier and gives you everything you really need with at home tools on the newer Amundsen’s.

Brilliant, thanks Sasha.

What is ODIS-E, and where can I get one from?

Is it something I can do myself without any sort of expertise? 

My knowledge of coding (or unlocking) is limited to what I can do with the Carly App, which isn’t a lot!

14 minutes ago, SmokinJoeFrazier said:

Brilliant, thank you Sasha.

Yes, it’s the Sport screen with a tab to open it that I want.

What is ODIS-E and FeC? 

Where can I get ODIS-E and is it something I can do myself, without any sort of expertise?

My knowledge of coding (or unlocking) is limited to what I can do with the Carly App, which isn’t a lot!

 

ODIS (Offline Diagnosis Information System I believe) is generally considered to be 'dealership level' software and while it's available outside of the dealership network it's not considered a DIY thing, it's much more specialist. FeC is a Feature Enable Code, which is (as I understand it) what is applied via ODIS to enable the sports dials. 

 

Having them in my car as standard I can safely say they're absolutely not worth going to any hassle or expenditure to add them. 

5 minutes ago, SmokinJoeFrazier said:

Brilliant, thanks Sasha.

It’s the Sport screen with the tab that I want.

What is ODIS-E, and where can I get one from?

Is it something I can do myself without any sort of expertise? 

My knowledge of coding (or unlocking) is limited to what I can do with the Carly App, which isn’t a lot!

PS

Apologies if my reply shows up twice. I couldn’t see my first reply so wrote it again.

Edited 27 December, 20196 yr by SmokinJoeFrazier

4 hours ago, Kenai said:

When the two most popular tools in VCDS and OBDeleven both refer to the process as 'long coding' (as distinct from setting adaptation channels) I think it's safe to say everyone knows what is meant by coding when referring to making modifications on VAG group cars.

Both software companies inherited the term "coding" by making a coarse, phonetic translation of German "Kodierung" (in VAS software by VW) which means programming. Two wrongs don't make a right. I rest my case. Happy coding!

2 hours ago, SmokinJoeFrazier said:

Brilliant, thanks Sasha.

What is ODIS-E, and where can I get one from?

Is it something I can do myself without any sort of expertise? 

My knowledge of coding (or unlocking) is limited to what I can do with the Carly App, which isn’t a lot!

I don’t recommend getting it for this job as it’s expensive, requires you to find someone who has access to VW servers etc. Not worth it. OBDEleven and the workaround coding I have posted above that will activate the off road screen and then the temp dials within it plus activation of the lap timer on the Maxidot or VC gives you everything the Sport screen does apart from the G meter and boost gauge which doesn’t accurately measure boost anyway. If you want those, download Skoda One App on your phone and run it via SmartLink.

7 hours ago, SashaGrace said:

I don’t recommend getting it for this job as it’s expensive, requires you to find someone who has access to VW servers etc. Not worth it. OBDEleven and the workaround coding I have posted above that will activate the off road screen and then the temp dials within it plus activation of the lap timer on the Maxidot or VC gives you everything the Sport screen does apart from the G meter and boost gauge which doesn’t accurately measure boost anyway. If you want those, download Skoda One App on your phone and run it via SmartLink.

Thanks Sasha.

Which OBDEleven would you recommend? I’m just looking on Amazon and they list four different ones - Pro, Standard, Ultimate & Starter.

16 hours ago, silver1011 said:

I admire your persistence, but in this instance you're wrong.

What RocardoM is doing wrong is not taking notice of the context.

 

In the context of changing the setup of vehicles "coding" means a USER changing a setup string.

 

In the context of a programmer writing software "coding" means the PROGRAMMER writing software code.

 

Context is all 

On 27/12/2019 at 16:48, SashaGrace said:

Menu Display Compass - OFF ROAD WITH AND WITHOUT NAV
1 - Module 5F - Electronic Information 1. Code (20103)
2 - Adaptation
3 - Select - Car Function Adaptations Gen 2
4 - Search submenu - Menu compass display (ON)
5 - Search submenu - Menu display compass over threshold (ON)
6 - Select - Car Function List Bap Gen 2
7 - Search submenu - Compass 0x15 (ON)
8 - Search submenu - 0x15 Compass msgbus (data bus comfort)
9 - Byte 24 Navigation System
10 - Change value to On.
This mod does not allow all functions without NAV.
Logically altitude and compass does not display data.
Also reports a fault in the module 5F saying that environmental data missing
(Only reports to do analysis with OBDeleven, nothing comes on screen)
With NAV everything works 100%
If you want to show the angle of rotation of the wheels on this menu you have to make the Slope Angle mod below.
 

Menu Display Angle of Slope - angle of rotation of the wheels 
With this modification you can add new functionality to Mod OFFROAD Display Menu.
This mod by itself does not work, you must have activated the OFFROAD menu.
This will show graphically the angle of rotation of the wheels to turn the wheel.
1 - Module 5F - Electronic Information 1. Code (20103)
2 - Adaptation
3 - Select - Car Function Adaptations Gen 2
4 - Search submenu - Menu display angle of slope (ON)
5 - Search submenu - Menu display angle of slope over threshold (ON)
6 - Select - Car Function List Bap Gen 2
7 - Search submenu - Angle of stope 0x24 (ON)
8 - Search submenu - 0x24 Angle of stope msg bus (data bus comfort)

 

Display Sport Temp gauges in Off Road Screen

With this mod the Off Road screen can be used to display water and oil temp gauges without activating the Sport screen via ODIS. Has been tested on all 04xx Amundsen FL software and on MIB2.5 Columbus 11xx software. Others may work.

1 - Module 5F - Electronic Information 1. Code (20103)
2 - Adaptation
3 - Select - Car Function Adaptations Gen 2
4 - Search submenu - Menu display Sport HMI – Enable
5 - Search submenu - Menu display Sport HMI after disclaimer – Enable

6 - Search submenu - Menu display Sport HMI Clamp_15 (Or Terminal_15) – Enable

7 - Search submenu - Menu display Sport HMI over threshold High – Enable 

 

On 27/12/2019 at 16:48, SashaGrace said:

Menu Display Compass - OFF ROAD WITH AND WITHOUT NAV
1 - Module 5F - Electronic Information 1. Code (20103)
2 - Adaptation
3 - Select - Car Function Adaptations Gen 2
4 - Search submenu - Menu compass display (ON)
5 - Search submenu - Menu display compass over threshold (ON)
6 - Select - Car Function List Bap Gen 2
7 - Search submenu - Compass 0x15 (ON)
8 - Search submenu - 0x15 Compass msgbus (data bus comfort)
9 - Byte 24 Navigation System
10 - Change value to On.
This mod does not allow all functions without NAV.
Logically altitude and compass does not display data.
Also reports a fault in the module 5F saying that environmental data missing
(Only reports to do analysis with OBDeleven, nothing comes on screen)
With NAV everything works 100%
If you want to show the angle of rotation of the wheels on this menu you have to make the Slope Angle mod below.
 

Menu Display Angle of Slope - angle of rotation of the wheels 
With this modification you can add new functionality to Mod OFFROAD Display Menu.
This mod by itself does not work, you must have activated the OFFROAD menu.
This will show graphically the angle of rotation of the wheels to turn the wheel.
1 - Module 5F - Electronic Information 1. Code (20103)
2 - Adaptation
3 - Select - Car Function Adaptations Gen 2
4 - Search submenu - Menu display angle of slope (ON)
5 - Search submenu - Menu display angle of slope over threshold (ON)
6 - Select - Car Function List Bap Gen 2
7 - Search submenu - Angle of stope 0x24 (ON)
8 - Search submenu - 0x24 Angle of stope msg bus (data bus comfort)

 

Display Sport Temp gauges in Off Road Screen

With this mod the Off Road screen can be used to display water and oil temp gauges without activating the Sport screen via ODIS. Has been tested on all 04xx Amundsen FL software and on MIB2.5 Columbus 11xx software. Others may work.

1 - Module 5F - Electronic Information 1. Code (20103)
2 - Adaptation
3 - Select - Car Function Adaptations Gen 2
4 - Search submenu - Menu display Sport HMI – Enable
5 - Search submenu - Menu display Sport HMI after disclaimer – Enable

6 - Search submenu - Menu display Sport HMI Clamp_15 (Or Terminal_15) – Enable

7 - Search submenu - Menu display Sport HMI over threshold High – Enable 

Can this all be done with the OBDEleven? And if so, which one?  They list four - Pro, Standard, Ultimate & Starter.

4 minutes ago, SmokinJoeFrazier said:

 

Can this all be done with the OBDEleven? And if so, which one?  They list four - Pro, Standard, Ultimate & Starter.

PRO is the one. You will need this for long coding.

5 minutes ago, SashaGrace said:

PRO is the one. You will need this for long coding.

Thanks. Such a shame I can't do it with my Carly App.

On 27/12/2019 at 17:52, Kenai said:

ODIS (Offline Diagnosis Information System I believe) is generally considered to be 'dealership level' software and while it's available outside of the dealership network it's not considered a DIY thing, it's much more specialist. FeC is a Feature Enable Code, which is (as I understand it) what is applied via ODIS to enable the sports dials. 

 

Having them in my car as standard I can safely say they're absolutely not worth going to any hassle or expenditure to add them. 

Thank you Kenai.

You're probably right, certainly as far as expenditure is concerned. It just annoys me that some vRSs have them and mine doesn't.

I'm a fan of gauges, and modern performance cars generally seem to have a lack of them, compared to performance cars of the past. 

At least it has the most important one - oil temperature.

As far as I know the sports dials have only been present on 'special' vRS models: the launch 245, the 245 Challenge and I think the prefacelift 230 may have had them too? 

I think the MY18 vRS had them too.

26 minutes ago, SmokinJoeFrazier said:

I think the MY18 vRS had them too.

MY18 spec would be what I referred to as 'launch 245', available from mid 2017. 

 

The MY18 standard vrs models (184 and 230) didn't get the dials though, fairly sure. 

Edited 29 December, 20196 yr by Kenai

That makes sense. 

What MY would my car be do you think?

It has a build date of 4/4/19

Is that an MY19 or 20?

I assumed, perhaps wrongly, it was a 19.

I thought MY20 is the new shape Octavia.

April 19 build would be MY19 still. 

 

MY20 would be July 2019 onwards (Week 28) and for the Mk3 Octavia saw minimal changes.

Good knowledge Kenai, thanks for that. I assumed right then.

Minimal changes to not include the sport gauges, I hope.

That would really pi*s me off, haha.

On 27/12/2019 at 20:00, SashaGrace said:

and boost gauge which doesn’t accurately measure boost anyway.

 

It does, very accurately, but it gives you absolute boost not the relative boost you are used to talking about.

 

It has no means of measuring the static air pressure outside and subtracting it from the total air pressure generated by the turbo.

 

In days of dial boost gauges it was easy as the just put a hole in the back of the gauge to allow outside air pressure to the other side of the capsule, however they could be affected by the increase in air pressure with speed in the cabin as the air forced its way through the dash vents quicker than it escaped through the back meaning it looked like you were loosing boost at speed.

 

To get a relative boost reading you need to subtract outside air pressure from the reading (easier if you work in bars and millibars)

6 hours ago, SmokinJoeFrazier said:

Good knowledge Kenai, thanks for that. I assumed right then.

Minimal changes to not include the sport gauges, I hope.

That would really pi*s me off, haha.

Don't worry about the gauges, in 26-1/2k miles I've only used mine a few times & as said before, they're of more use to the front passenger as when you're "on it" you haven't really got time to look at them.

 

Don't feel hard done by it though, I haven't got a GPF either, now there's something I'm really gonna miss🤔🤔🤔

13 hours ago, themanwithnoaim said:

Don't worry about the gauges, in 26-1/2k miles I've only used mine a few times & as said before, they're of more use to the front passenger as when you're "on it" you haven't really got time to look at them.

 

Don't feel hard done by it though, I haven't got a GPF either, now there's something I'm really gonna miss🤔🤔🤔

Was it MY18 or 19 they started fitting GPFs to the vRS? 

MY19 that got the GPFs, MY18 don't have them. 

Thanks (yet again) @SashaGrace, I followed your instructions for "Menu Display Compass - OFF ROAD WITH AND WITHOUT NAV" and I do now have the sports gauges screen available in my 2020 MkIII Octavia Scout (tap the "Car" button repeatedly on the head unit to cycle until the three gauges appear).

As you noted, in the absence of a physical compass, the compass display just says "North"... heh.

(Unless, of course, my car has a compass, and there's something else I need to code/tweak/set to let this gauge access said compass?)

How would I check if my car physically has a compass? (It has no nav system).

thanks, again!

-Jay
 

On 27/12/2019 at 17:48, SashaGrace said:

Menu Display Compass - OFF ROAD WITH AND WITHOUT NAV
1 - Module 5F - Electronic Information 1. Code (20103)
2 - Adaptation
3 - Select - Car Function Adaptations Gen 2
4 - Search submenu - Menu compass display (ON)
5 - Search submenu - Menu display compass over threshold (ON)
6 - Select - Car Function List Bap Gen 2
7 - Search submenu - Compass 0x15 (ON)
8 - Search submenu - 0x15 Compass msgbus (data bus comfort)
9 - Byte 24 Navigation System
10 - Change value to On.
This mod does not allow all functions without NAV.
Logically altitude and compass does not display data.
Also reports a fault in the module 5F saying that environmental data missing
(Only reports to do analysis with OBDeleven, nothing comes on screen)
With NAV everything works 100%
If you want to show the angle of rotation of the wheels on this menu you have to make the Slope Angle mod below.
 

Menu Display Angle of Slope - angle of rotation of the wheels 
With this modification you can add new functionality to Mod OFFROAD Display Menu.
This mod by itself does not work, you must have activated the OFFROAD menu.
This will show graphically the angle of rotation of the wheels to turn the wheel.
1 - Module 5F - Electronic Information 1. Code (20103)
2 - Adaptation
3 - Select - Car Function Adaptations Gen 2
4 - Search submenu - Menu display angle of slope (ON)
5 - Search submenu - Menu display angle of slope over threshold (ON)
6 - Select - Car Function List Bap Gen 2
7 - Search submenu - Angle of stope 0x24 (ON)
8 - Search submenu - 0x24 Angle of stope msg bus (data bus comfort)

 

Display Sport Temp gauges in Off Road Screen

With this mod the Off Road screen can be used to display water and oil temp gauges without activating the Sport screen via ODIS. Has been tested on all 04xx Amundsen FL software and on MIB2.5 Columbus 11xx software. Others may work.

1 - Module 5F - Electronic Information 1. Code (20103)
2 - Adaptation
3 - Select - Car Function Adaptations Gen 2
4 - Search submenu - Menu display Sport HMI – Enable
5 - Search submenu - Menu display Sport HMI after disclaimer – Enable

6 - Search submenu - Menu display Sport HMI Clamp_15 (Or Terminal_15) – Enable

7 - Search submenu - Menu display Sport HMI over threshold High – Enable 

 

 

Edited 9 February, 20215 yr by JayLibove

18 minutes ago, JayLibove said:

How would I check if my car physically has a compass? (It has no nav system).

 

The compass is normally built into the satnav so without nav, you won't have one