So USA kills Iran's military leader leading to conflict and economic consequences

[Guest BigJase88]

On 04/01/2020 at 23:51, Lee01 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/04/boris-johnson-attacked-for-silence-on-iran-assassination

Come on, is anyone really surprised by this, though. It's not like he's got form, is it?
As Mayor during the London riots, he was on his holibobs and didn't come back. The vote on Heathrow's third runway where he said he'd lie down in front of bulldozers, he went AWOL, and during the election campaign he hid in a fridge.
The PM's a bloody coward and a liar.

I wouldn’t come back from my holiday either to be fair.....

[Ootohere]

To Donald Trump cultural sites mean Lap Dancing Clubs and Topless Bars. 

[@Lee]

8 minutes ago, Roottootemblowinootsoot said:

To Donald Trump cultural sites mean Lap Dancing Clubs and Topless Bars. 

 

 

[@Lee]

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Britain has evacuated non-essential personnel from Baghdad and placed helicopters and warships on standby, the defence secretary has announced.

Ben Wallace told the Commons that the government had taken urgent measures to protect British citizens and interests in the Gulf after the US killed the senior Iranian commander Qasem Soleimani on Friday.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/uk-government-caught-short-by-iran-soleimani-killing-says-lord-ricketts-jhh6xmnxd?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1578416995

Has anyone seen the Prime liar at all? Apparently he couldn't be bothered to turn up for work today. Not seen hide nor hair of him for eleven days now.

[Ootohere]

He will have been excited to go ride his used 125cc he got for Christmas, and there might be other important rides to catch up on.

Then various children that he might be a parent to that expect a hello.

[lol-lol]

5 hours ago, CWARD said:

Are you for real, you’re seriously deluded. All he wanted was to maintain his supply corridor to Hezbollah by keeping Bashar al-Assad in power. Isis were a threat to this as were the rebel who opposed Assad. The rebels being most of the population so he killed as many of them as Isis.
Somehow you make him into a hero. How can you do this when he kills anyone including civilians just to keep a dictator in place?

 

I see why you never got to Sandhurst.

 

To state the obvious the key alliance of Iran military is with Russia and the land war that Iran did, which Western troops were never up to the task for, was to help get control of Tartus (spelling varies) on the Med.   

 

https://www.ft.com/content/f52bdde6-20cc-11ea-b8a1-584213ee7b2b
Russia to invest $500m in Syrian port of Tartus Move to leverage Moscow’s position as the most powerful foreign influence in country 

 

Russia will invest $500m in the port of Tartus in its largest ever investment in Syria, as Moscow seeks to leverage its position as the most powerful foreign player in the war-torn country. Moscow entered the Syrian war in 2015 with a military onslaught that helped President Bashar al-Assad turn the conflict in favour of his regime and made Russia a critical powerbroker in the Middle East.  Tartus is the home of Russia’s sole naval base outside the former Soviet Union and gives Moscow a critical beachhead in the Mediterranean. In 2017, Russia struck a deal to lease Tartus for 49 years and expand its use to civilian business purposes, and has said it plans to make it a centrepiece of efforts to rebuild the country’s destroyed economy.  “The Russian side intends to improve the operations of the old port and build a new commercial port,” Yuri Borisov, Russian deputy prime minister, told reporters after meeting Mr Assad in Damascus on Tuesday. “The overall amount of investment within the next four years is estimated at $500m,” he said. While Syria’s near nine-year war is continuing in some parts of the country, Moscow is pushing efforts to find a post-conflict peace settlement and drum up international finance to rebuild the country’s infrastructure. Mr Borisov said motorways, airports and a railway connecting Tartus to Iraq that would allow goods to be shipped to the Gulf were also discussed. Russian industrial group Stroytranzgas, headed by Gennady Timchenko, a longtime friend of President Vladimir Putin who is subject to US sanctions over his links to the Kremlin, has built gas processing plants in Syria and recently took control of a phosphate mine and fertiliser production facility. Russian media reports said Stroytranzgas would manage the Tartus port. Russia will also ship 100,000 tonnes of grain to Syria as humanitarian aid, Mr Borisov said, with shipments beginning at the end of the month and running until mid-2020.

 

Russia is the real winner in Donald Trump’s Syria mess Moscow established the Tartus naval base under a 1971 deal with Damascus. The port can hold 11 warships and is a crucial part of Russia’s military presence in the Middle East, allowing its naval ships to refuel and re-arm without returning home via Istanbul and the Black Sea.

 

 

[CWARD]

9 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

 

I see why you never got to Sandhurst.

 

To state the obvious the key alliance of Iran military is with Russia and the land war that Iran did, which Western troops were never up to the task for, was to help get control of Tartus (spelling varies) on the Med.   

 

https://www.ft.com/content/f52bdde6-20cc-11ea-b8a1-584213ee7b2b
Russia to invest $500m in Syrian port of Tartus Move to leverage Moscow’s position as the most powerful foreign influence in country 

 

Russia will invest $500m in the port of Tartus in its largest ever investment in Syria, as Moscow seeks to leverage its position as the most powerful foreign player in the war-torn country. Moscow entered the Syrian war in 2015 with a military onslaught that helped President Bashar al-Assad turn the conflict in favour of his regime and made Russia a critical powerbroker in the Middle East.  Tartus is the home of Russia’s sole naval base outside the former Soviet Union and gives Moscow a critical beachhead in the Mediterranean. In 2017, Russia struck a deal to lease Tartus for 49 years and expand its use to civilian business purposes, and has said it plans to make it a centrepiece of efforts to rebuild the country’s destroyed economy.  “The Russian side intends to improve the operations of the old port and build a new commercial port,” Yuri Borisov, Russian deputy prime minister, told reporters after meeting Mr Assad in Damascus on Tuesday. “The overall amount of investment within the next four years is estimated at $500m,” he said. While Syria’s near nine-year war is continuing in some parts of the country, Moscow is pushing efforts to find a post-conflict peace settlement and drum up international finance to rebuild the country’s infrastructure. Mr Borisov said motorways, airports and a railway connecting Tartus to Iraq that would allow goods to be shipped to the Gulf were also discussed. Russian industrial group Stroytranzgas, headed by Gennady Timchenko, a longtime friend of President Vladimir Putin who is subject to US sanctions over his links to the Kremlin, has built gas processing plants in Syria and recently took control of a phosphate mine and fertiliser production facility. Russian media reports said Stroytranzgas would manage the Tartus port. Russia will also ship 100,000 tonnes of grain to Syria as humanitarian aid, Mr Borisov said, with shipments beginning at the end of the month and running until mid-2020.

 

Russia is the real winner in Donald Trump’s Syria mess Moscow established the Tartus naval base under a 1971 deal with Damascus. The port can hold 11 warships and is a crucial part of Russia’s military presence in the Middle East, allowing its naval ships to refuel and re-arm without returning home via Istanbul and the Black Sea.

 

 

I guess I didn’t need to go Sandhurst as the topic is about the death of Soleimani and not  Russian interests in Syria. Your commission must have come from a lucky dip bag though as you managed to answer a question that wasn’t asked. The question is below, do you want to try and answer it again with your great knowledge acquired from getting your commission. 

 

9 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

Somehow you make him into a hero. How can you do this when he kills anyone including civilians just to keep a dictator in place?

BTW it will involve using your own words rather than your usual cut and paste!

Edited 7 January, 2020 by CWARD

[CWARD]

Whilst I wait for the commissioned one  to prevent vide an intelligent answer, might be a long wait, I give you an article n Lol-lols hero, the guy who put ISIS back in their box

 

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Several of Soleimani’s crimes against the Syrian people during the country’s nine-year war are as follows:

Soleimani was involved in the massacre of more than 500,000 innocent people; he was directly responsible for the displacement of more than 13 million people in addition to damaging the houses of more than 6.1 million citizens in this country. It is worth reminding that Nazi Germany has killed around 1,650 citizens and destroyed 7,000 houses during the bombing of Guernica, which is considered a war crime in World War II.

Qassem Soleimani and Quds Force aided Bashar al-Assad’s air force to conduct more than 6,000 bombing operations against ordinary people. At the time, they also operate more than 6,000 artillery operations against Syrian residential areas which resulted in destroying dozens of cities and towns in this country. Notably, Soleimani’s crimes include blowing up 492 hospitals and medical centers and murdering 847 doctors and medics who were trying to rescue the wounded and the people who had been buried under the ruins after Assad’s inhuman bombardments.

During the past years, Soleimani assisted the dictator of Damascus to conduct 221 chemical attacks against residential areas. Chemical attacks left long-term disastrous impacts on the lives of dozens of thousands of citizens in these areas in addition to the mass killing of thousands of people including youth, children, and even babies.
https://www.iranfocus.com/en/iran-a-neighbours/syria/34188-a-glance-at-qassem-soleimani-s-crimes-in-syria

Maybe Soleimani will get a posthumous award for his humanitarian efforts 🙄

Edited 7 January, 2020 by CWARD

[CWARD]

Someone else who doesn’t agree with Lol-lols analysis of the hero of Syria. 

 

Soleimani is no anti-imperialist hero

And Trump's reckless decision to assassinate him will not result in 'World War III'.

 

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/soleimani-anti-imperialist-hero-200105211451136.html

[CWARD]

Another great article but again Lol-lols hero doesn’t fair too well. How can everyone be so wrong about Soleimani

 

https://www.trtworld.com/opinion/qasem-soleimani-s-disastrous-syria-legacy-lives-on-32762

[J.R.]

On 04/01/2020 at 23:51, Lee01 said:

The PM's a bloody coward and a liar.

 

You could have added a very sore loser as well but we never got to see if it was the case.

[CWARD]

1 minute ago, J.R. said:

 

You could have added a very sore loser as well but we never got to see if it was the case.

don’t wind him up

[skomaz]

2 hours ago, CWARD said:

Whilst I wait for the commissioned one  to prevent vide an intelligent answer, might be a long wait

 

 

If you wait long enough he'll come up with some form of *******s that he thinks justified his view...   And if we are really luck there'll be a link and a graph too...

Edited 7 January, 2020 by skomaz

[@Lee]

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Multiple missiles have been launched into Iraq from Iran targeting American bases.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/iran-launches-missiles-us-air-bases-iraq-us/story?id=68130625&cid=social_twitter_abcn

[skomaz]

7 minutes ago, Lee01 said:

https://abcnews.go.com/International/iran-launches-missiles-us-air-bases-iraq-us/story?id=68130625&cid=social_twitter_abcn

 

The BBC report doesn't mention them coming from Iran.  But it wouldn't surprise me if they did.

 

The question is what will Trump do now...

[@Lee]

9 minutes ago, skomaz said:

 

The BBC report doesn't mention them coming from Iran.  But it wouldn't surprise me if they did.

 

The question is what will Trump do now...

CNN saying the Iranians claimed it was them. If you want to know what tRump will do next, follow him on Twitter. Grab a cup of covfefe  
 

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Iranian state TV reported that the Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, or IRGC, "has hit U.S. Ain al-Asad airbase in Iraq with tens of missiles." The IRGC warned the US of of more "crushing responses in case of new aggression," according to state TV. The IRGC said it will target any regional state that becomes a platform for US aggression, a second banner on state TV read.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/01/07/politics/rockets-us-airbase-iraq/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

[@Lee]

Unconfirmed but it looks like as many as 20 US soldiers killed by 'up to' 60 missiles so far.

tRump sure knows how to avoid an impeachment doesn't he.

[@Lee]

 

[MoggyTech]

10 to 1 odds, cruise missile sales will increase within 24 hours.

[moley]

6 hours ago, Lee01 said:

Unconfirmed but it looks like as many as 20 US soldiers killed by 'up to' 60 missiles so far.
tRump sure knows how to avoid an impeachment doesn't he.

It would be better to post facts rather than speculation, unless you have the source of any 'unconfirmed' reports.  

[@Lee]

3 hours ago, moley said:

It would be better to post facts rather than speculation, unless you have the source of any 'unconfirmed' reports.  

I wasn't speculating. I said unconfirmed. It was from a now deleted Tweet from an Arabic news site. 

[CWARD]

Without a link to a source it is nothing more than the posters hearsay. Lee normally pits these links to twitter in his posts so draw your own conclusions 

[shyVRS245]

3 minutes ago, CWARD said:

Without a link to a source it is nothing more than the posters hearsay. Lee normally pits these links to twitter in his posts so draw your own conclusions 

Iranian Government claiming 80 deaths at the Iraqi Air Base but nothing confirmed from US or Iraqi Government sources.

[CWARD]

Heard on the BBC news no US or Iraqi casualties has they’d all been in bunkers awaiting the attack. I find that hard to believe so May find true figure later. 
MOD have confirmed all British personal accounted for and no injuries 

[moley]

2 hours ago, Lee01 said:

I wasn't speculating. I said unconfirmed. It was from a now deleted Tweet from an Arabic news site.

What was your motive for putting up the post in the first place? 🤔