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40 minutes ago, deedie said:

Can't find the bloody sticker that tells what the recommended oil is! Any idea where it is likely to be?

Worst case, ring up your local friendly Skoda dealer and ask the parts/service lot.

The sticker should be under the bonnet, on top of the grille/bumper trim, however my Octavia doesn't have a sticker there either!

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7 hours ago, deedie said:

the 2 replies i have had to this query is a classic example of why this thread was so confusing!

and the fact that when putting reg plate into different sites, gives different replies. which is about as helpful as a chocolate teapot.

i will stick with the sticker suggestion. i just assumed there may be a reason for people choosing to ignore it, or the sites giving different options!

The other thing that doesn’t help is that there isn’t “a” 280. There are 3. Initially was code CJXA EA888.3 without GPF. Then they added the GPF (and maybe other minor changes to accommodate) which brought top end down to 272 and the engine code changed to DNUA.

Then with the facelift from March 2020, they upgraded to the EA888.4 which is engine code DNFE and a different generation of engine with quite a few changes.

I’m not saying this to confuse you…it’s to highlight that websites and motor factors don’t realise this. There are a plethora of websites which state 2.0 TSI 280bhp 2015- which shows they aren’t aware of the nuances and therefore their advice loses gravitas.

I’d agree sticker or speak to Skoda. Alternatively, mine is also mentioned in service history “VW 504 00 (0W-30)” which is right for ea888.4.

Best of luck!

Edited by travs

8 minutes ago, travs said:

The other thing that doesn’t help is that there isn’t “a” 280. There are 3. Initially was code CJXA EA888.3 without GPF. Then they added the GPF (and maybe other minor changes to accommodate) which brought top end down to 272 and the engine code changed to DNUA.

Then with the facelift from March 2020, they upgraded to the EA888.4 which is engine code DNFE and a different generation of engine with quite a few changes.

I’m not saying this to confuse you…it’s to highlight that websites and motor factors don’t realise this. There are a plethora of websites which state 2.0 TSI 280bhp 2015- which shows they aren’t aware of the nuances and therefore their advice loses gravitas.

I’d agree sticker or speak to Skoda. Alternatively, mine is also mentioned in service history “VW 504 00 (0W-30)” which is right for ea888.4.

Best

8 minutes ago, travs said:

The other thing that doesn’t help is that there isn’t “a” 280. There are 3. Initially was code CJXA EA888.3 without GPF. Then they added the GPF (and maybe other minor changes to accommodate) which brought top end down to 272 and the engine code changed to DNUA.

Then with the facelift from March 2020, they upgraded to the EA888.4 which is engine code DNFE and a different generation of engine with quite a few changes.

I’m not saying this to confuse you…it’s to highlight that websites and motor factors don’t realise this. There are a plethora of websites which state 2.0 TSI 280bhp 2015- which shows they aren’t aware of the nuances and therefore their advice loses gravitas.

I’d agree sticker or speak to Skoda. Alternatively, mine is also mentioned in service history “VW 504 00 (0W-30)” which is right for ea888.4.

Best of luck!

The engine is cjxa.

Are u saying that 0w30 is the correct oil for this, as I have just ordered 5w30, as as far as I could find 5w30 is correct.

Even more confused now lol

Going to have to cancel that oil lol

Edited by deedie

After checking my owners manual, the car requires vw502 oil. Which is Castrol edge 5w40. So going round in circles here. I can't believe how difficult it is to get this info. Especially in this day and age. Will cancel my oil order until I can speak to someone tomorrow about it

@deedie

No the engine does not require VW 502 00 , 5w 40 FS (Not long life.)

**It can be used,

it is for Fixed Oil & Service Regimes. I use it for TSI,s. **

You might find 0w 40 even. To VW 502 00.

Yes you are going around in circles.

I do wish you would clearly state the Age and Engine your car has.

With or without a GPF?

You will be perfectly OK with 0w 30 FS III, as you will with 5W 30 FS III.

If you want use non Long Life OIl & change Annually or at 9,400 miles or sooner. VW 502 00.

Edited by Ootohere

7 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

@deedie

No the engine does not require VW 502 00 , 5w 40 FS (Not long life.)

**It can be used,

it is for Fixed Oil & Service Regimes. I use it for TSI,s. **

You might find 0w 40 even. To VW 502 00.

Yes you are going around in circles.

I do wish you would clearly state the Age and Engine your car has.

With or without a GPF?

You will be perfectly OK with 0w 30 FS III, as you will with 5W 30 FS III.

If you want use non Long Life OIl & change Annually or at 9,400 miles or sooner. VW 502 00.

As mentioned earlier in the thread it's a 67 plate. Engine is cjxa, no idea what gpf is! Why does the manual state vw502? I plan on doing oil changes every 5000 miles

Edited by deedie

I am not trying to be awkward.

67 is the Reg Plate, tells when first registered. Not when built, & left the factory,

Gives not a clue to how long maybe bunkered / in a showroom before being first registered.

The owners here that know details will know the engines, if you have a GASOLINE PARTICULATE FILTER.

I suspect your car left the factory with VW 504 00 / 507 00.

Others should know what theirs had if the same as your engine.

2 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

I am not trying to be awkward.

67 is the Reg Plate, tells when first registered. Not when built, & left the factory,

Gives not a clue to how long maybe bunkered / in a showroom before being first registered.

The owners here that know details will know the engines, if you have a GASOLINE PARTICULATE FILTER.

I suspect your car left the factory with VW 504 00 / 507 00.

Others should know what theirs had if the same as your engine.

3 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

I am not trying to be awkward.

67 is the Reg Plate, tells when first registered. Not when built, & left the factory,

Gives not a clue to how long maybe bunkered / in a showroom before being first registered.

The owners here that know details will know the engines, if you have a GASOLINE PARTICULATE FILTER.

I suspect your car left the factory with VW 504 00 / 507 00.

Others should know what theirs had if the same as your engine.

I will speak to someone tomorrow about it, try and get a definitive answer.

6 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

I am not trying to be awkward.

67 is the Reg Plate, tells when first registered. Not when built, & left the factory,

Gives not a clue to how long maybe bunkered / in a showroom before being first registered.

The owners here that know details will know the engines, if you have a GASOLINE PARTICULATE FILTER.

I suspect your car left the factory with VW 504 00 / 507 00.

Others should know what theirs had if the same as your engine.

I will speak to someone tomorrow about it, try and get a definitive answer.

I have no clue of build date, as I didn't buy it new.

49 minutes ago, deedie said:

I will speak to someone tomorrow about it, try and get a definitive answer.

I have no clue of build date, as I didn't buy it new.

The reason he is asking is that there are sometimes overlaps. For example, my car has a 2020 build date, yet parts sites don't understand that a 2020 can be a Mk3.5 - they all assume it's a Mk4, which mine isn't. This is not to mention that when I say I have a 2020 vRS, people assume it is a Mk4.

If it were a 17 plate then it could very possibly be a 2016 car (and vice versa, a 67 plate could be a 2018 car). Okay, in this case it's not as important, however the GPF came in a year later in 2019, and thus a 68 plate may or may not have one, and a 2019 plate may or may not have one. You get my drift.

2 minutes ago, OccyVRS said:

The reason he is asking is that there are sometimes overlaps. For example, my car has a 2020 build date, yet parts sites don't understand that a 2020 can be a Mk3.5 - they all assume it's a Mk4, which mine isn't. This is not to mention that when I say I have a 2020 vRS, people assume it is a Mk4.

If it were a 17 plate then it could very possibly be a 2016 car (and vice versa, a 67 plate could be a 2018 car). Okay, in this case it's not as important, however the GPF came in a year later in 2019, and thus a 68 plate may or may not have one, and a 2019 plate may or may not have one. You get my drift.

I have no way of knowing that unfortunately. What I would say is, it's unlikely that this car would have been hanging around a dealers any length of time. Given the high spec it was built to order for a specific customer

2 minutes ago, deedie said:

I have no way of knowing that unfortunately. What I would say is, it's unlikely that this car would have been hanging around a dealers any length of time. Given the high spec it was built to order for a specific customer

In this case, I don't think it actually matters. Whether it's a 2017 or a 2018, it's not a GPF car.

2 hours ago, deedie said:

The engine is cjxa.

Are u saying that 0w30 is the correct oil for this, as I have just ordered 5w30, as as far as I could find 5w30 is correct.

Even more confused now lol

Going to have to cancel that oil lol

Not sure how you could summarise that the oil for my DNFE is the same as your CJXA.

My point was an alternative way of finding your oil: my oil is quoted in my service history.

So if you check your service history you might find which oil has been used.

Edited by travs

2 minutes ago, travs said:

Not sure how you could summarise that the oil for my DNFE is the same as your CJXA.

My point was an alternative way of finding your oil: my oil is quoted in my service history.

So if you check your service history you might find which oil has been used.

No mention of it anywhere

3 hours ago, deedie said:

The engine is cjxa.

Are u saying that 0w30 is the correct oil for this, as I have just ordered 5w30, as as far as I could find 5w30 is correct.

Even more confused now lol

Going to have to cancel that oil lol

He is saying that for his DNFE, it wants 0W-30!

For your CJXA, not sure.

As mentioned, I think we have found the answer - https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/534258-engine-oil/#comment-5960830

For variable servicing, your car takes VW 504 00. Just as was said -

1 hour ago, Ootohere said:

I suspect your car left the factory with VW 504 00 / 507 00.

🙂

9 minutes ago, deedie said:

No mention of it anywhere

That’s frustrating but ok, another avenue shot down.

If it’s definitely CJXA then this was the pre-GPF original 280.

The only other way to tell irrespective of anything is look under the car.

The downpipe comes off the turbo, immediately has the catalytic converter and then does one of 2 things:

  1. Additional bulge for the GPF (also known as OPF) (DNUA engine code)

  2. Just a wire mesh (CJXA)

I sense this is probably overkill but hopefully there’s clarity there. Picture attached - don’t worry that they refer to different engine codes, the first three letters are the same for the same physical build, the 4th is just the software determining the final power output.

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Edited by travs

The solution I've just used -

Find your workshop manual here - https://easymanuals.com

Engine code, oil type, sorted. I already had my manual saved on a thumb drive from last year, however I don't think it was too expensive. £20 maybe?

It's the proper 25,000 whatever page workshop manual, but take your time and you'll find it near the start.

2 minutes ago, OccyVRS said:

The solution I've just used -

Find your workshop manual here - https://easymanuals.com

Engine code, oil type, sorted. I already had my manual saved on a thumb drive from last year, however I don't think it was too expensive. £20 maybe?

It's the proper 25,000 whatever page workshop manual, but take your time and you'll find it near the start.

Well need to see if I can find a free version of that. Sure I had them before, but don't know if I still have them

11 minutes ago, OccyVRS said:

The solution I've just used -

Find your workshop manual here - https://easymanuals.com

Engine code, oil type, sorted. I already had my manual saved on a thumb drive from last year, however I don't think it was too expensive. £20 maybe?

It's the proper 25,000 whatever page workshop manual, but take your time and you'll find it near the start.

Unless it turns out yours need 10W-50 and then we’re all in the dark

Let’s be honest - whether it’s 0W-30 or 5W-30, it won’t kill it.

The same with my car - it’s meant for 0W-20, parts are optimised for 0W-20, yet so many people run it on 5W-30 or even 5W-40 (okay, they’re mainly heavily tuned GTIs in the US, but same thing).

I plan to keep my car for a while, hence why I’m keen to make sure it has the right oil. If you plan to ditch your car before it hits 60,000 miles, ultimately, put something VW in and call it a day. Oil choice between a 0W-20 and 0W-30 is only going to matter north of 100k miles, or if the car is heavily tuned, in my opinion.

11 hours ago, OccyVRS said:

Let’s be honest - whether it’s 0W-30 or 5W-30, it won’t kill it.

The same with my car - it’s meant for 0W-20, parts are optimised for 0W-20, yet so many people run it on 5W-30 or even 5W-40 (okay, they’re mainly heavily tuned GTIs in the US, but same thing).

I plan to keep my car for a while, hence why I’m keen to make sure it has the right oil. If you plan to ditch your car before it hits 60,000 miles, ultimately, put something VW in and call it a day. Oil choice between a 0W-20 and 0W-30 is only going to matter north of 100k miles, or if the car is heavily tuned, in my opinion.

car is on 83k miles, so trying preserve it as long as possible

This became confusing indeed eh eh ....oh well.

Me, I am still thinking what 0W-40 is compatible with 0W-30, since opposed to Occy (see his lenghtly and informative post in previous page) I do not subscribe to the theory engines have been heavily modified to the point they can't take a +10 in the uppser viscosity range.

Honestly, I have not seen a strip down Gen. IV engine, but the main difference I've seen between an early TFSI (got a friend fully rebuilding a A4 B7 original DTM edition) and an earlier similar-sized powerplant (the venerable 1.8T 20v) show everything the former is "optimized" in the same manner: lighter, thinner, smaller ... in other words ... possibly "weaker", or surely less tolerant.

I suspect mine 280 is even worse in this regard ... well, stop rant and will not go back to bother on this.

Evening , my Superb 1.5Tsi now runs on 0-W-20 Castrol Edge. It could have left the factory with 5-W-30 Castrol Edge.

What I would say the engine oil when checked appears cleaner on the 0-W-20 engine oil.

My 2018 TSI 280 (CJXA) has a sticker for 504 00/507 00.

Recently had a service at a indy and they used 5w30 Castrol Edge LL

1 minute ago, s88urd said:

My 2018 TSI 280 (CJXA) has a sticker for 504 00/507 00.

Recently had a service at a indy and they used 5w30 Castrol Edge LL

Where is the sticker?

1 minute ago, deedie said:

Where is the sticker?

Just near the bonnet catch

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Edited by s88urd

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