Yeti starting problem

[djgilson]

Car is a 2011 Yeti 2.0TDi SE DSG 4x4, 59,000 miles.  Has been totally reliable over last 6 years, but then a few days ago refused to start.  Engine spinning over freely, just not firing.  After fiddling with the key, it did eventually start and has been starting and running perfectly ever since.

 

Ran a VCDS scan which brought up lots of error codes for the time of the failure to start.  These mostly involved "01314 Engine Control Module, 004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent".  But the engine itself showed no faults, in spite of the summary saying "01-Engine - Status: Sporadic communications error 1000". 

 

I saved the scan (of course) and cleared the fault codes, and am now waiting for the problem to happen again

 

Meanwhile, I removed the ECU (which I assume is the same thing as the Engine Control Unit), after a struggle.  (Managed to unscrew those wretched security screws with the aid of water-pump pliers  -  not a method I've seen suggested before).  There was no sign of water entry to the connectors, and all the contacts looked bright and clean.  So put it back together and now waiting for the problem to happen again, 

 

Not sure what else I can do.  Hoping desperately not to have to throw myself on the mercy of the dealers.

 

I can post the complete scan if required, but didn't want to clutter up the forum.  Would be very grateful for any suggestions.

[Urrell]

Could it be it lost communication with the key transponder?

[djgilson]

Well, I guess it could be.  Presumably the problem would be in the key itself, so the spare key should be OK.  I will make a point of having the spare key with me, so I can try it if and when the problem recurs.  Good tip, many thanks, Urrell.

[djgilson]

Ah!  A pattern is beginning to emerge.

 

Failed to start again this morning (using the original key).  Ignition on produced a message "ESP: Error", (as it did on the first occasion).  Continuing to the start position, the engine turned over freely, but failed to fire.  I then switched off, withdrew the key and re-inserted it.  Ignition on then produced the correct "Skoda Information System" message, and I just knew it was going to start, which it did, and ran perfectly, and has been fine since.

 

I assume the "ESP: Error" is a spurious message caused by the intermittent ECU signal.

 

A repeat VCDS scan produced the same string of fault codes as before.  Time to attach the scan.  It's comforting that there are no Priority 1 faults (Stop driving immediately), but there are a couple of Priority 0 (Undefined).  Can anyone throw light on those?  

 

I'm now happier that I'm not going to break down on the road.   I'm going to swap to the spare key and see if it behaves better, but it'll take a while waiting for something not to happen.  Any further bright ideas will be much appreciated.

 

Monday,10,August,2020,11:36:23:04019

VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 20.4.2.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4513.4
Data version: 20200730 DS317.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

VIN: TMBMD75L8B6059704   License Plate:
Mileage: 95670km-59446mi   Repair Order: 

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Chassis Type: 5L-SK35 (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 22 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72

VIN: TMBMD75L8B6059704   Mileage: 95670km-59446miles

01-Engine -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
22-AWD -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CFHC)       Labels:. 03L-906-018-CFF.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 018 DB    HW: 03L 906 018 BR
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC   H23 7098  
   Revision: 42H23---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 001D0012042700080000
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018DB 003004
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018DB.rod
   VCID: 6D863B076D110553895-8038

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 013 L    HW: 02E 927 770 AL
   Component: GSG DSG AG6     511 2601  
   Revision: 05351113    Serial number: 00001104130936
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   VCID: 1A6C20DBC09F42EBBC7-804E

2 Faults Found:
18258 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1850 - 000 - Missing Message from ECU - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 255
                    Reset counter: 40
                    Mileage: 95678 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.01.01
                    Time: 11:24:56

01196 - Engine-Transmission Data Bus 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 255
                    Reset counter: 40
                    Mileage: 95678 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.01.01
                    Time: 11:24:57

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BE    HW: 1K0 907 379 BE
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0108  
   Revision: 00H31001    
   Coding: 933F400E09270103C91202E4901D808A300000
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   VCID: 76B4146B18C7C68B78F-8022

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 67
                    Mileage: 95678 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.01.01
                    Time: 11:24:57

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 14
                    Count: 4608
                    Count: 8194
                    Count: 41984
                    Count: 1
                    Count: 65278
                    Count: 0

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 3T0 907 044 BE    HW: 3T0 907 044 BE
   Component: Climatronic   H16 0402  
   Revision: 00006001    
   Coding: 0000000002
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_SK35.rod
   VCID: 76B4146B1847C68B78F-8022

1 Fault Found:
13701376 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
          U1111 00 [008] - -
          [Motorsteuergerät - kein Signal/Kommunikation]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 107
                    Mileage: 95678 km
                    Date: 2020.08.10
                    Time: 11:24:58

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 937 086 H    HW: 1K0 937 086 H
   Component: BCM PQ35  M   103 0615  
   Revision: 00103 AE    
   Coding: 48000AB8E85BF1C040080080110001E4430000AE526D85605C8140000040
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   VCID: 3536D36745418D93B15-8060

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5L2 955 119 A  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: SK356  26  0604 
   Coding: 00F7B5

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 260411 05  54  0403 
   Coding: 0730ED

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104 

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 605 B
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H11 9005 

2 Faults Found:
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12) 
            014 - Defective
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101110
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 64
                    Mileage: 95655 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.12.28
                    Time: 12:30:12

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 12.05 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF

01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 107
                    Mileage: 95678 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.01.01
                    Time: 11:24:58

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 11.85 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 5J0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 5J0 919 475 A    HW: 5J0 919 475 A
   Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H11 0005  
   Revision: --H11---    Serial number: 32901110900274
   Coding: 108113
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14SKxxx0000 001001
   ROD: EV_EPHVA14SKxxx0000_001.rod
   VCID: 3332ED7F4BB593A39F1-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 959 655 B    HW: 5C0 959 655 B
   Component: AirbagVW10    013 0613  
   Serial number: 003G5RA4J0WU  
   Coding: 00005442
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 A01014
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360.rod
   VCID: 313EE777B1A9A1B3EDD-8064

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  H01 ---- 
   Serial number: 3572MSME7829445DZZZ2

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  H01 ---- 
   Serial number: 3582MSME4667435DZZZ%

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H  --- ---- 
   Serial number: 3512QSME420E0011ZZZD

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.H  --- ---- 
   Serial number: 3522QSME6E1F0767ZZZ5

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 521 AT    HW: 5K0 953 569 B
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   014 0140  
   Revision: FF010040    Serial number: 20110421100452
   Coding: 1882140000
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSXS A01004
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS.rod
   VCID: 7EA40C4B30778ECB20F-802A

   Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3T0 959 537     HW: 3T0 959 537   Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-URO  H07 0012 
   Coding: 800000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 5L0 920 940 H    HW: 5L0 920 940 H
   Component: KOMBI         H21 0420  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 420C00
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04089
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_SK35.rod
   VCID: 313EE777B1A9A1B3EDD-8064

1 Fault Found:
12648448 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
          U1111 00 [008] - -
          [Steuergerät für Motor: keine Kommunikation]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 107
                    Mileage: 95678 km
                    Date: 2020.08.10
                    Time: 11:24:57

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 C    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533  Gateway H37 0614  
   Revision:   H37       Serial number: 230411F1001449
   Coding: 356303
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   VCID: 3038E273BA23A8BBE23-8064

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00110100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 107
                    Mileage: 95678 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.01.01
                    Time: 11:24:56

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Address 22: AWD        Labels: 0AY-907-554-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 0BR 907 554 B    HW: 0BR 907 554 B
   Component: Haldex 4Motion      3017  
   Coding: 0000005
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 44D0BEA3129B241B36B-8010

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 57
                    Reset counter: 48
                    Mileage: 3618101 km
                    Time Indication: 4

             Freeze Frame:
                    Time: 0.00 s
                    Raw, Form. N/A: 000 000 000
                    Raw, Form. N/A: 000 000 000
                    Raw, Form. N/A: 000 000 000
                    Raw, Form. N/A: 000 000 000
                    Raw, Form. N/A: 000 000 000
                    Raw, Form. N/A: 000 000 000
                    Raw, Form. N/A: 000 000 000

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H21 0420  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03008
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW31.rod
   VCID: 6A8C301B5CFF126BEC7-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:. 7N0-959-793.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 959 793 D    HW: 7N0 959 793 
   Component: TSG FA        H04 0400  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000114811074 
   Coding: 011402208001231004
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   VCID: 43D2BDBF1B9523230F1-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 M
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 71     3201  
   Revision: 00H20000    
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   VCID: 3430EE63423B949B86B-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:. 7N0-959-792.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 959 792 D    HW: 7N0 959 792 
   Component: TSG BF        H04 0400  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000115072463 
   Coding: 011400208001231004
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   VCID: 42DCB8BB048F2A2B047-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 1Z0 035 156 G    HW: 1Z0 035 156 G
   Component: BOLERO        015 0029  
   Revision: -----29S    Serial number: SKZ4Z3L1124148
   Coding: 0D0004000001
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   VCID: 3634D46B5847868BB8F-8062

1 Fault Found:
00856 - Radio Antenna 
            007 - Short to Ground - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100111
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 7
                    Reset counter: 107
                    Mileage: 95655 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.12.28
                    Time: 12:39:22

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels:. 7N0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 959 795 D    HW: 7N0 959 795 
   Component: TSG HL        H03 0400  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000115330907 
   Coding: 010000200001531004
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   VCID: 45D6A3A715A11D13215-8010

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels:. 7N0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 959 795 D    HW: 7N0 959 795 
   Component: TSG HR        H03 0400  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000115330838 
   Coding: 010000200001531004
   Shop #: WSC 33361 790 00999
   VCID: 45D6A3A715A11D13215-8010

No fault code found.

End----(Elapsed Time: 01:20, VBatt start/end: 11.9V/11.9V. VIgn 11.9V)-----

 

 

[GordonY]

just a guess but could the voltages be a bit low going to ecu from each module,could you try another battery

[djgilson]

Thanks for the suggestion, GordonY.

My first thoughts were that the symptoms suggest the battery is OK, however I must admit it is 4 years old, and the failures to start have mostly been on the first start of the day. So I’ve ordered a new battery, (60% off at GSF helped), but this is more in hope than expectation. At the least it will eliminate the battery as the culprit, and it’s a lot cheaper than a new ECU.

Meanwhile, after swapping to the spare key, the problem has persisted, so unfortunately that destroys the theory that the fault might lie in the key.

In total in the last 10 days, there have been four failures to start. Each time, the problem was resolved by simply removing the key and replacing it. And each time, the same string of fault codes was generated.

But there are no fault codes in the engine, or the immobiliser. The search continues……..

[djgilson]

Well, as expected, the new battery made no difference, problem is still there.

But I now realize that when it fails to start, if I just wait several seconds for the “ESP: Error” message to go off, it will start OK, ie no need to remove key or even switch off.  I suspect this was always the case, but I just naturally fiddled with the key.

So I could almost live with the problem, but I can’t live with all those fault codes……………..

[Expatman]

3 hours ago, djgilson said:

Well, as expected, the new battery made no difference, problem is still there.

But I now realize that when it fails to start, if I just wait several seconds for the “ESP: Error” message to go off, it will start OK, ie no need to remove key or even switch off.  I suspect this was always the case, but I just naturally fiddled with the key.

So I could almost live with the problem, but I can’t live with all those fault codes……………..

In the end you know you are going to have to take it into the Skoda dealer - don’t you?

[djgilson]

It may come to that, but I'm not quite ready to give up yet.

[Expatman]

1 hour ago, djgilson said:

It may come to that, but I'm not quite ready to give up yet.

But how much are you going to spend before deciding to let the dealer investigate?

 

[Llanigraham]

2 hours ago, djgilson said:

It may come to that, but I'm not quite ready to give up yet.

 

So you think you know better than the experts?

[djgilson]

Thanks for the replies, Expatman and Llanigraham.  Please keep them coming.  They help keep the thread at top of page.

[langers2k]

Almost every module is complaining about the ECU...

 

You need to remove the ECU and inspect the power, ground and CAN-bus wiring to/from the ECU. Worth checking any fuses/fuse holders to the ECU and load testing any current carrying wires.

 

It's probably worth grabbing some wiring diagrams from erwin, a multimeter and a few cups of tea

[Expatman]

51 minutes ago, djgilson said:

Thanks for the replies, Expatman and Llanigraham.  Please keep them coming.  They help keep the thread at top of page.

You’re welcome.

[widdershins]

I think it will probably end up at the stealers service dept, but since it is intermittent the more you can do to identify where the problem lies (or doesn't) before going there the better.  Sadly the days are long gone when a problem starting could be cured by some percussive maintenance on the starter motor.

[djgilson]

On 20/08/2020 at 21:38, langers2k said:

Almost every module is complaining about the ECU...

 

You need to remove the ECU and inspect the power, ground and CAN-bus wiring to/from the ECU. Worth checking any fuses/fuse holders to the ECU and load testing any current carrying wires.

 

It's probably worth grabbing some wiring diagrams from erwin, a multimeter and a few cups of tea

 

Many thanks for the suggestions, langer2k.  I think I’ve gone as far down that route as I can.  The ECU has two connectors, a 94 way and a 60 way, which of course connect with countless other connectors and modules.  The Elsawin Current Flow Diagram is split between all those modules and it’s hard to make sense of it.  I wouldn’t feel comfortable trouble-shooting just one of the ways, never mind 154 of ‘em.

 

The good guys at my local independent garage reckon they couldn’t do any more than I’ve already done.  So it’s booked in to the dealer next week.  (I can hear the screams of “Told you so” already).

I’ll report on the outcome.

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[djgilson]

OK, it looks like the problem was J322 power control relay, labelled “100”, the only relay in top of engine bay fuse box.  Elsawin describes it as “diesel direct injection system relay”.  Skoda Indian Queens replaced it as a first port of call, and a week later there has been no further failure to start, so hopefully that’s it.

 

My visit to the dealer was actually fairly painless in the end.  (Courtesy car was an electric Citigo  -  interesting, but not enough to tempt me away from proper cars).

 

Irritatingly, I had thought of replacing that relay myself  -  should have acted on it.  Anyway, it seems the same relay is used on other VW Group diesels, so perhaps this result may be of help to anyone with a similar problem.

[IOLAIREQ]

Hello everyone. Just joined the site due to having exactly the same problem as djgilson.  I am a motor engineer who has given up trying to retire because the buggers keep on finding me. I specialise in classics and drive a 30 year old Audi 80 V6 as my daily. Last year the wife finally decided to give up her great old Beetle for something modern. She fancied an SUV of some sort, but I warned her that I would not tolerate a Range Rover or any of the other appallingly huge petrol guzzlers. I suggested a Yeti as I've always admired the cleverness of the design. We found a 2012 one owner 1.4 TFSI with only 32K on the clock and absolutely pristine.

To my surprise I love driving it and it's been great up until recently when it developed the above fault. I gave it to a colleague who does my MOTs and has massive amounts of diagnostic equipment. He charged 240 quid for diagnostics and a new battery, thank you very much. It was still the same. I then used the good old method of common sense and replaced the fuel pressure regulator on top of the pump. That actually improved the problem but didn't cure it. I found this site tonight and when I read about the relay I realised this was almost certainly the problem. Although mine is a petrol it has two "100" relays on the board. I swapped them to check and the fault has gone! Sadly, although these relays are marked Hella, they are also made in bloody China!!  I have ordered 2 from Amazon for 9 quid each, made in Germany. This is an exercise in modern diagnostics and teaches us that experience is far more practical than a code reader.

[Tobyhh]

hi @djgilson, i am just wondering what the initial issue was speccifically. 

i have a skoda yeti which i was kindly given due to an elderly gentleman not being bothered to fix it. 

i picked it up from a garage which he took it to and have since asked them for information on what the issue was, to no avail. 

when i picked it up the instrument cluster was out and from reasearch this may have indicated they believed there was an immobalisor issue which is common in relation to this part of the car. if it was this i dont see why they wouldnt have fixed it however which leads me to believe the promblem lies elsewhere. this leads me to your post. my car ( the exact same model and year as yours) does the same thing: starts up and sometimes starts for a couple seconds but then cuts out, or it turns over and doesnt start at all. i have not looked at the car in a while but do you remember if your issue made the immobalisor warning light come up or not. 

 

thank you, Toby