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Definitely not a life or death issue 😁

 

Two buttons presses on the steering wheel and it's off. Not an issue at all

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Not so on all cars, mine for instance via the touch screen which is IMO dangerous to go trawling through menus to turn it off. Not all makes of car are equal, the first car I came this feature on, it caught me totally unaware, that was a Nissan, and it really was aggressive and very alarming when you weren't expecting it. I had to pull over and check for problems. RTM I discovered that it had if I remember 3 different settings, again selected via the touch screen, and the previous driver had left it on the max setting.

Well this is the Kamiq forum and that's what is being discussed. Pointless discussing what other cars do.

12 hours ago, sussamb said:

Well this is the Kamiq forum and that's what is being discussed. Pointless discussing what other cars do.

Exactly this^. This is about the cars we drive (Skoda Kamiq) so it’s irrelevant how other cars perform.

 

In all my years of car forums I’ve never read a more pointless thread than this one, lane assist in the Kamiq is a minor inconvenience at worst, and I’m convinced that people like MP1983 are plants to try and lift the mood somewhat…..because everything he says about lane assist is simply hilarious, bless him😂

4 minutes ago, carefree said:

Exactly this^. This is about the cars we drive (Skoda Kamiq) so it’s irrelevant how other cars perform.

 

In all my years of car forums I’ve never read a more pointless thread than this one, lane assist in the Kamiq is a minor inconvenience at worst, and I’m convinced that people like MP1983 are plants to try and lift the mood somewhat…..because everything he says about lane assist is simply hilarious, bless him😂

Well, I've also posted about lane assist here, while I don't drive a Kamiq, I do drive a Superb and it is a Skoda so I seriously doubt that there is much different in their lane assist systems seeing as the VAG group cars all tend to use common parts and just stick a different label on the part with their own part numbers, so I hope you're not also saying my posts are not valid?

We have lane assist on our i30. It does what it's supposed to do really well. No sharp moves, just gentle nudges to keep the car in the lane. 

 

The problem with it in our car is that when it's on and you turn slightly you get feedback from the steering wheel as if one of the wheels is slightly unbalanced. So I don't use it any more. 

Edited by Mister Paul

That might be when the system thinks that you're on course to stray out of lane and its giving you a gentle nudge to let you know. The Nissan I had did that to me the first time when I was joining a motorway from a slip road. I was looking in my O/S mirror for a gap to join the main road and the slip lane was running out and as I approached the dotted line, the system kicked in and did the same making me think first of all that I had a wheel loose, and then it cut in and steered the car towards the hard shoulder, that was when I first realised the car was fitted with it.

What other cars do is really of no relevance given that this is the Kamiq forum. Think there are a few here who would do better posting on the relevant forum.

On 27/10/2023 at 20:34, Graham Butcher said:

Well, I've also posted about lane assist here, while I don't drive a Kamiq, I do drive a Superb and it is a Skoda so I seriously doubt that there is much different in their lane assist systems seeing as the VAG group cars all tend to use common parts and just stick a different label on the part with their own part numbers, so I hope you're not also saying my posts are not valid?

No Graham I am not.  In fact, you are one of the very few credible posters on this forum in my opinion.  
 

You are right, gadgets like lane assist will be more or less the same within a certain motor group of cars, but lane assist between different manufacturers is most definitely calibrated differently in terms of sensitivity etc, that’s what I was trying to say.

As I said above, I enabled the memory function for the lane assist and gave instructions on how to do it.

I posted here because I too felt that it was dangerous.....on my '22 octavia. It feels exactly like the passenger grabbing the wheel and I can't get on with it. However, my GF has a '23 golf and it's perfectly fine on that as its only very subtle.  Go figure.  

  • 11 months later...

The Skoda lane assist and speed limit warning are easy to turn off compared to other makes. I don’t personally like them - my sister in law (BMW X-1) has to trawl through menus to turn hers off. On my Karoq the front brake assist would be a bit excitable but you could reduce its sensitivity in the menu.

I turn off this so-called nanny safety system when I remember in both Scala and Kamiq, otherwise it’s like having a psycho with a death wish pulling at the wheel. One positive thing I will say, it does focus the mind and encourage drivers to indicate, which is a good thing.

Not if you turn it off. Pointless in any case having to indicate just to cross a white line as often there is no need. Turn it and stop/start off every time I start the car.

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I think how lane assist reacts depends on the driver.  

 

I find that if I hold the steering wheel tightly, then lane assist reacts fiercely when it judges the car is too near the edge of the road or lane.  Hold it lightly but firmly, then the response of lane assist is likewise lighter. 

 

Maybe gripping the wheel tightly means that the initial response of lane assist is missed by the driver and so lane assist reacts more fiercely.

Possibly. A tight grip should never be needed though in normal driving, it leads to other issues. 

The tightness of the grip of the steering wheel is nothing to do with anything. 

There is no strength testing sensor built into the steering wheel.   

3 hours ago, Ootohere said:

The tightness of the grip of the steering wheel is nothing to do with anything. 

There is no strength testing sensor built into the steering wheel.   

I'm not saying there is a strength testing sensor built into the steering wheel, but clearly the turning of the front wheels by lane assist causes the steering wheel to turn and if that is gripped hard the force needed to turn it must be greater than if it is gripped lightly.

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Yes you need to hold the wheel and steer the car, as to gripping forces, tight grip etc, then no.  Duff gen.

 

Just be in control the small to medium car, it is not a Light Commercial, HGV, Bus, Fire Engine etc. 

1 hour ago, Ootohere said:

Yes you need to hold the wheel and steer the car, as to gripping forces, tight grip etc, then no.  Duff gen.

 

Just be in control the small to medium car, it is not a Light Commercial, HGV, Bus, Fire Engine etc. 

I'm not saying it is any of those things.  Within the context of your original I quoted, I was making the point that if tyhe driver is gripping the steering wheel hard, then it will take more force from lane assist to operate, and as I said in my original post, "I find that if I hold the steering wheel tightly, then lane assist reacts fiercely when it judges the car is too near the edge of the road or lane.  Hold it lightly but firmly, then the response of lane assist is likewise lighter".

Just a special car then. Making sure it starts going where it needs to.  

1 hour ago, Ootohere said:

Just a special car then. Making sure it starts going where it needs to.  

No, just a system of  range detection, speed measurement and directional variation.

3 hours ago, Seasider said:

I'm not saying it is any of those things.  Within the context of your original I quoted, I was making the point that if tyhe driver is gripping the steering wheel hard, then it will take more force from lane assist to operate, and as I said in my original post, "I find that if I hold the steering wheel tightly, then lane assist reacts fiercely when it judges the car is too near the edge of the road or lane.  Hold it lightly but firmly, then the response of lane assist is likewise lighter".

My experience on the Superb is that if you are just gripping the wheel lightly, the car will steer between the lane markings for you as long as you are going fast enough for the system to activate, take your hands off the wheel and the system will flash up a warning telling you to hold the wheel. If you grip the wheel tight enough it will not steer the car and you are able to cross the lane markings without needing to indicate, it just gives the wheel a slight vibration to let you know that you are changing lanes.

  • 3 months later...

OK, a bit of thread resurrection but;

 

We have the Kamiq and a Golf Mk8 (2021 model year). In both cases lane assist can be turned off with two button presses. For the Golf it's a secret not in the handbook.

 

It is disabled in both cars most of the time. It does seem to have some utility on motorways where the lane markings are well defined, in other situations it is very easy for it to be confused IMHO.

  • 3 months later...

Well im a late starter but would say this. Lane assist and ACC are the two best things since sliced bread I live 100km out of Brisbane and its a very busy 100k as well. I set my cruise and just sit there and car gets it done I only have to hold the wheel lightly and the ACC keeps me going in the traffic perfectly . Have had 2 Vag cars and can say that CC works far better than the Toyota I had earlier. VAG keeps to the set limit up and downhill whereas the Toyo always over ran on downhill. You dont have to hold the wheel in a death grip and the only time would be changing lanes when wheel vibrates and tries to keep you in the lane. Easy done.

8 hours ago, Exkiwi said:

Well im a late starter but would say this. Lane assist and ACC are the two best things since sliced bread I live 100km out of Brisbane and its a very busy 100k as well. I set my cruise and just sit there and car gets it done I only have to hold the wheel lightly and the ACC keeps me going in the traffic perfectly . Have had 2 Vag cars and can say that CC works far better than the Toyota I had earlier. VAG keeps to the set limit up and downhill whereas the Toyo always over ran on downhill. You dont have to hold the wheel in a death grip and the only time would be changing lanes when wheel vibrates and tries to keep you in the lane. Easy done.

And the key words are "hold the wheel lightly" because the tighter you hold it, the more powerful lane assist works, hence the problems people have and how they make it dangerous.

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