What tyres should I fit?  Where I live the roads are in poor condition and windy.  I'm only getting 12,000 miles on my Goodyear EfficientGrip.  One front tyre had to be changed recently after a torn sidewall and the garage only had an Avon ZV7.

 

I can't fit all-seasons or winter tyres as I only plan to change the rears as they are now end-of-llife,  

 

This review puts me off fitting Avons https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/104042/avon-zv7-review

 

My wife does most of the driving; What's most important to me is her safety so I would look at wet and dry braking.

Edited 30 November, 20205 yr by farty

Is just getting 3 of the Avon ZV7 fitted not worth doing and have matching tyres?

(Since you are not in Texas!)

 

There must be some reason the car is only getting 12,000 miles wear from Goodyear EfficientGrip. eg maybe something up with the car or the pressures you run.

 

Nothing wrong with fitting Avon ZV7's as a pair now and when another pair needed getting the same and running all 4 the same.

 

Their Avon ZX7 are a tyre they say is a High Performance 4x4 tyre.

 

2 winters back i had Avon WV7 Snow tyres on, i liked them but another member in Aberdeenshire did not.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/459700-avon-wv7-snow

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/461444-short-winter-tyre-complaint-thread

 

 

 

 

Edited 30 November, 20205 yr by e-Roottoot

I'm running the tyres at the reccomended pressures and have a TPMS to monitor each tyre.

If you are only getting 12000 miles, I would check your tracking and alignment 

 

Goodyear efficient grip are for fuel saving, quiet, comfortable ride (Goodyear’s words, not mine).  Never going to be a tough tyre for poor roads

 

When you say poor roads, do you mean tarmac, or more a track with loose stones.  If stone abrasion is a problem then Michelin Latitude cross is a possible.   But of course rugged tyres are never going to be like a high performance tyre for braking.   
 

If you are driving on those kind of roads, (where you aren’t going to be doing autobahn speeds) then stay clear of high performance summer tyres and focus on tyre with strength (and winter ability), you want something reliable whatever the weather. As you want good wet performance I will go out on a limb and suggest Hankook Kinergy 4S2

 

 

Edited 30 November, 20205 yr by SurreyJohn

Can you get XL rated tyres for your Yeti?

 

Or maybe tyres intended for SUVs in the correct size for your Yeti? They are usually built with a tougher constructions than tyres intended for cars.

Edited 30 November, 20205 yr by PetrolDave

If your looking for something a bit more chunky, or more robust, have a look at these, obviously in your size: https://www.camskill.co.uk/m56b0s222p120535/Michelin_Tyres_SUV_4x4_Michelin_Latitude_Cross_-_225_55_R17_101H_XL_TL_Fuel_Eff_%3A_C_Wet_Grip%3A_C_NoiseClass%3A_2_Noise%3A_71dB

 

Once I’ve sourced another set of rims I’ll be getting a set for trips to far flung places with dirt roads.  
 

PS As suggested by SurreyJohn. 

Edited 30 November, 20205 yr by DSL

So possibility of snow by the weekend, even up around Bettyhill.

Just why a Yeti with the right tyres is 'Simply clever.'

Don’t tell SWMBO but I’m hoping for some serious snow this week/weekend to see how my 4x4 Karoq, on full winters, behaves in the white stuff.  May even throw caution to the wind and not carry my recovery rope.   

Someone will surely be looking for you having a kind heart and pulling them out of a drift.

3 hours ago, SurreyJohn said:

When you say poor roads, do you mean tarmac, or more a track with loose stones

Proper tarmac, but A-roads round here are single-track with passing places and poorly maintained.  Our drive is sharp gravel and we need to do a three-point turn every time to face out. SWMBO does corner rather briskly!

 

Why is Latitude reccomended by two of you?  

 

Thanks!

That will be because proper tyres for north of the UK road conditions.

 

Like the Alpin 6 i have on or CrossClimates SUV's or Agilis CrossClimates  / Aligis Alpins that local to me are getting fitted to vans / commercials / VW Transporters.

Edited 30 November, 20205 yr by e-Roottoot

Thanks e-Roottoot.  I've polished me specs but those photos still look blurry - it's either my whisky or you old phone 

 

Are latitudes good for harsh tarmac?  Car does not go off road except when the missus sees an oncoming car.

Camera was a bit steamy as a bit of a cold morning.

 

The members recommended the Latitudes for the very reason that they suit rough conditions.

 

I never used those for my serious winter / offroad car that had to be used on road, i might try them in the future, instead i fitted Yokohama G012  Geolander AT-S as used on the Ariel Nomad as the OEM road tyre fitment.

They had a high speed and load rating but actually in snow they were just so so.

Edited 30 November, 20205 yr by e-Roottoot

Reason I’m going for Latitudes is because I have a fiendish plan for a few jollies to Scandinavia, and a good few days of that will be on gravel roads.  COVID allowing that is.   I used to do these trips in my old trustie Disco 3, well until the engine died on me 2,000 miles from home and she was sent to make Norwegian Coke cans, 99% of which I can easily do in Skippy.  The only concern I have is tyres, I’m not sure the Bridgestones are up to the job from a survival point of view.  

 

This is typical of the roads but they can be a lot more “rocky”.

 

I asked around in the D3 community and Latitudes are well recommended, used on Freelanders and Discos, as a good AT (all terrain) tyre, a nice compromise in road manners and off-road ability/durability.  I was thinking of using them for winter use but opted for full winters instead, as insisted on by SWMBO.

 

Besides, you can never have enough sets of wheels and tyres.  Plus a third set of wheels & tyres is a LOT cheaper than a new Defender. 

1 hour ago, farty said:

Proper tarmac, but A-roads round here are single-track with passing places and poorly maintained.  Our drive is sharp gravel and we need to do a three-point turn every time to face out. SWMBO does corner rather briskly!

 

Why is Latitude reccomended by two of you?  

 

Thanks!

You had indicated sharp stones or rocks had damaged a tyre, so suggesting something that is designed to deal with abrasive stones

 

There are 2 ways of looking at safety: good grip that keeps you on the road; and avoiding a blowout that leaves you stranded, or causes a crash

11 hours ago, SurreyJohn said:

You had indicated sharp stones or rocks had damaged a tyre,

I never saw the damage as my wife was using the car.  I don't know where the damage was but possibly on the inside sidewall.  She did not here a 'hit' just came back to a flat after walking the dog.

Is this the kind of road you are talking about?  

 

Boooooooootiful part of the world, makes my location (Grantown on Spey) seem positively southern!

1 hour ago, DSL said:

Is this the kind of road you are talking about? 

Yes!

 

Her tyre was damaged just north of Talmine.  We have some bone-jarring potholes.  This is the exact spot https://w3w.co/pencils.encroach.fewer

From which, I was able to tell a garage where to find her.  He collected the wheel, went back to Tongue and fitted a new tyre there - lucky he had one the right size.  Then he drove back to fit it.  Said he's keps busy doing punctures!

 

WhatThreeWords is a very useful app!

Edited 1 December, 20205 yr by farty

Very useful app indeed. 

 

wonder if that sharp edge to the tarmac is the culprit.  Hit that wrong and it’ll certainly do some damage to the inner wall of a tyre.

 

One of these might be a good choice for there.

On 30/11/2020 at 08:41, farty said:

What tyres should I fit?  Where I live the roads are in poor condition and windy.  I'm only getting 12,000 miles on my Goodyear EfficientGrip.  One front tyre had to be changed recently after a torn sidewall and the garage only had an Avon ZV7.

 

I can't fit all-seasons or winter tyres as I only plan to change the rears as they are now end-of-life.

 

My wife does most of the driving; What's most important to me is her safety so I would look at wet and dry braking.

 

You could fit Michelin CrossClimates on the rear with summer tyres on the front. You shouldn't get oversteer (ie. lose your back end and spin 360 degrees) because the Michelin CrossClimate tyres work like a summer tyre in the summer. Unlike most all-season tyres, the CrossClimates are a modified summer tyre not a modified winter tyre.

 

Edited 1 December, 20205 yr by Carlston

8 hours ago, DSL said:

I wonder if that sharp edge to the tarmac is the culprit.  Hit that wrong and it’ll certainly do some damage to the inner wall of a tyre.

Very likely.  She does swerve onto the verge quite often for oncoming traffic and tail-gaters.  And it was a nearside tyre.

 

I can't find Michelin Latitudes in a 225/50r17 size, so I am going to go for runflats, which have a reinforced sidewall.  At least my wife could drive home or to a garage if she gets a flat.  AA/RAC are OK but they might take hours to get to the north highlands.  My friendly local garage will be much quicker.

 

I can't find any Latitudes in my size, so I'm looking at Bridgestone Turanza T005 DriveGuard tyres.

 

But I am very grateful for all the advice above.  Runflats  require a good TPMS which I have - TyrePal.

 

If I win the lottery I will fit all-season runflats such as Cross Climate + Zero Pressure.  Goodyear dont seem to make a runflat all-season tyre.

 

 

12 minutes ago, Carlston said:

 

understeer is when you lose traction at the front.

Edited 1 December, 20205 yr by farty
no longer relevant

3 minutes ago, farty said:

understeer is when you lose traction at the front.

 

Well spotted. Corrected to oversteer.

44 minutes ago, farty said:

I can't find Michelin Latitudes in a 225/50r17 size, so I am going to go for runflats, which have a reinforced sidewall.

 

215/60R16 might be more resistant to sidewall damage than 225/50R17. However, the standard rims for the 16" wheels on the Yeti is 7Jx16 ET45 whereas for the Karoq it changed to 6Jx16 ET43 for the same tyre size. The 215/60R16 tyre's sidewalls should be better protected from sidewall damage on the narrower 6J rims as opposed to the wider 7J rims...which stretch the sidewalls and thereby make them more vulnerable to damage.

 

Even better than the standard 215/60R16 tyre size is oversize 215/65R16 which is a popular modification in Russia due to their bad roads. 215/65R16 is also a more common and cheaper tyre size than 215/60R16.

 

Bridgestone Turanza T005 DriveGuard RFT 215/65 R16 98V runflat

https://www.mytyres.co.uk/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?dsco=110&cart_id=cjomxU8LIP1WUiGr.110.1017958169&sowigan=So&Breite=215&Quer=65&Felge=16&kategorie=6&m_s=3&Ang_pro_Seite=50&sort_by=brand&rsmFahrzeugart=ALL&Label=C-A-71-2&details=Ordern&typ=R-392373

 

However, you might not need runflat tyres with the 215/65R16 tyre size fitted to 6J rims.

 

Edited 1 December, 20205 yr by Carlston