MY17 Superb Retrofitted with Direct TPMS

[knorac]

Parts are from ali express this is the set.

http://HRK 1,339.20 | For VW Passat B8 Tiguan MK2 Audi A3 8V MQB TPMS Tire Pressure Monitoring System 5Q0 907 273 B / 5Q0 907 275 B https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOrNcZc

Edited 7 May, 2022 by knorac

[knorac]

These two wires  connected isbfrom antenna. My question is this connected good?

Power is taken from fuse box.

Sry for so many questions.

[ApertureS]

49 minutes ago, knorac said:

These two wires  connected isbfrom antenna. My question is this connected good?

Power is taken from fuse box.

Sry for so many questions.

if the connection wasnt good you wouldnt be able to connect to the module and youd have a lot more fault codes to do with missing messages.

Connecting the power to the fuse box isnt specific enough as you have different kinds of switched supplies - Constant, Ignition, Ignition but no crank, Individual - what fuse was it connected into?

[ApertureS]

4 hours ago, JR RS said:

that error looks like it's not connected properly to the CANBUS.

Id disagree, the issue seems to be interference between the antenna and the receivers in each wheel. That would explain both fault codes. 

 

First thing you should be doing is checking that all 4 sensors are being picked up in live data and outputting a pressure. It could be either the sensors arent paired correctly or a faulty wheel sensor.

[knorac]

Can i do this with obd11?

[knorac]

Here is the fuse tap pic.

[JR RS]

9 hours ago, knorac said:

These two wires  connected isbfrom antenna. My question is this connected good?

Power is taken from fuse box.

Sry for so many questions.

 

 

I don't know wat the connections should look like when connected to the BCM module as I tapped into the CANBUS high & low at the blind spot module (master) inside the rear bumper.

 

I've got the same part numbers as u, from AliExpress.

[knorac]

8 hours ago, JR RS said:

 

I don't know wat the connections should look like when connected to the BCM module as I tapped into the CANBUS high & low at the blind spot module (master) inside the rear bumper.

 

I've got the same part numbers as u, from AliExpress.

Are the wires orange green and orange grey?

[JR RS]

5 hours ago, knorac said:

Are the wires orange green and orange grey?

 

Orange/Brown = CANBUS Low

Orange/Grey = CANBUS High

 

[ApertureS]

1 hour ago, JR RS said:

 

Orange/Brown = CANBUS Low

Orange/Grey = CANBUS High

 

Looking at the picture above hes definitely in the correct canbus network, no fault codes to say otherwise either. Its down to placement of the antenna or connection to the wheel modules that is the issue.

[knorac]

Is it possible to pair sensors with module via OBD11 (this is only that i have)

If so can anybody tell me how

[langers2k]

If I recall, there are two kinds of TPMS sensor:

- ones which self learn which position they are in

- ones that need programming with a TPMS tool (not VCDS, ODB11, ODIS etc)

 

At least when I last checked, orange versions needed programming but black ones didn't?

 

Might be worth adding part numbers or pictures showing which sensors you've used...

[knorac]

I have found picture. By the word of the shop that sold me another set of tpms sensors. They are self learned.

Also aliexpress tpms sensors on winter tires does not also connect/show pressure. I have tried just one tire. Is that enough?

Edited 9 May, 2022 by knorac

[JR RS]

4 hours ago, knorac said:

I have found picture. By the word of the shop that sold me another set of tpms sensors. They are self learned.

Also aliexpress tpms sensors on winter tires does not also connect/show pressure. I have tried just one tire. Is that enough?

 

 

I have those same tyre sensors, same TPMS module.

 

 

They should come pre-paired to the module.

If not, as @langers2k mentioned, then u need a specialist TPMS diagnostic tool to program the sensors.  These aren't cheap, or readily available.

 

Also, this type of TPMS module can only b paired/programmed with 4 sensors max.  So u can't have a 5th wheel spare sensor, or another set of 4x sensors for ur winter tyres n expect them to show.

 

Also, the tyre pressures won't b read until the sensor has been rotating inside the tyre for a few meters at a minimum.  This is to determine each sensor's position relative to the module.

 

The first time I installed mine, I drove a good 100m or so before the tyre pressures were shown on screen.  Part of the initial learning/calibration I'd say.

After that, it only needs a few meters of travel to see pressures.

 

 

Edited 9 May, 2022 by JR RS

[RT_SGP]

On 14/02/2022 at 09:19, JR RS said:

@RT_SGP - oh wow, that's awesome that there is someone supplying it as a kit!! 

there's hope then indeed, to do such a retrofit  

 

if u do go down this path, please do let us know - we'd b very interested to see how it progresses  

Sorry for the very late reply. I was out of touch from briskoda for a while now. An update to the 360; The supplier from China is not 100% that the parts will work. While he can source for all the items in the picture, the existing buttons alongside the gear knob may not be compatible given the various variants available. I'm still need to progress this.... maybe I should start a new thread?  

[dmus9230]

I am having problems getting this internal TPMS to work properly.

 

The system generates faults and stops showing the pressure readings whenever the engine is restarted.

 

After clearing the faults, the readings are shown but after stopping and re-starting the engine, the faults recurs.

 

Any advice most welcomed

 

 

[ApertureS]

2 hours ago, dmus9230 said:

I am having problems getting this internal TPMS to work properly.

 

The system generates faults and stops showing the pressure readings whenever the engine is restarted.

 

After clearing the faults, the readings are shown but after stopping and re-starting the engine, the faults recurs.

 

Any advice most welcomed

 

 

Please provide the faults you are referring to as this is needed to help fix the problem?

If you mean fault codes? If so, give the complete fault read out and modules that store them.

 

Where have you mounted the tpms receiver?

Edited 4 November, 2023 by ApertureS

[dmus9230]

3 hours ago, ApertureS said:

Please provide the faults you are referring to as this is needed to help fix the problem?

If you mean fault codes? If so, give the complete fault read out and modules that store them.

 

Where have you mounted the tpms receiver?

 

 

The receiver is mounted in the bumper

 

The fault codes are:

17 Dashboard U111000 Function restriction due to communication interruption

65 Tire Pressure B200500 Data record invalid

19 Gateway U012700 Lost Communication With Tire Pressure Monitor Module

 

The thing is that after clearing  the faults, the pressure readings are fine but once the engine is stopped and restarted, the same faults re-appears

[ApertureS]

1 minute ago, dmus9230 said:

 

 

The receiver is mounted in the bumper

 

The fault codes are:

17 Dashboard U111000 Function restriction due to communication interruption

65 Tire Pressure B200500 Data record invalid

19 Gateway U012700 Lost Communication With Tire Pressure Monitor Module

 

The thing is that after clearing  the faults, the pressure readings are fine but once the engine is stopped and restarted, the same faults re-appears

You haven't powered your module correctly. 

This module needs a permanent fused 12v supply, you have given it an ignition feed im guessing?

 

You also havent correctly uploaded a dataset for your vehicle using either ODIS or VCP.

[Warrior193]

@dmus9230 how have you powered the new TPMS system? - the OP says that you need a permanent 12 volt supply - it sounds as if yours is switching off with the ignition.

Edited 4 November, 2023 by Warrior193
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[JR RS]

@dmus9230 - as already mentioned by the others above, sounds like u haven't powered the TPMS module with a permanent source.

Also looks like it hasn't been parameterized.

 

Edited 5 November, 2023 by JR RS