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Skoda Superb Elegance TSI 1.8 2010 Oil Usage!!!!!

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Purchased the car in October 2019, within 6 weeks of purchase and after an oil service, I had to top up the oil. Contacted the dealer who informed me that was normal for this model. A few small repairs on other things were done under the 3 month warranty period. 13 weeks and more oil.... I took to my local garage, after connecting the computer a number of faults came up but nothing to do with the oil problem.

On a 100 mile journey coming home the car began chugging, like not firing on all cylinders, the engine management light flickered on and off (orange), it got me home. The garage the next day changed the plugs and coil assembly which cleared the problem, six months on and the same problem has occurred, hence another new coil assembly and plugs. It has now just happened again. I am topping up about every 4 weeks with no obvious oil leaks.

It is going in, in a few days for a full investigation as to the cause, I think it will cost mega bucks to sort.

Has anyone had a similar problem who could guide me forward?

As you can see I am not great with cars so not too tech.

Thanks guys

Hi,

 

I've not had one of those myself but I've been on this site long enough to see the posts from others.

 

 You might want to make a cup of tea, sit down and have a read of this: 

Of course you may have a different problem but the oil usage sounds similar to me.
 

I can't help you through the problem (I've never had the 1.8 or 2.0) but I think what I have learnt is that you should try and document everything, email the dealer rather than phone (or follow up phone calls with an email) etc.

 

 Cheers,

 Steve

Welcome to the forum.  The first issue was the person at the dealership that told you the oil use was normal when you had to top up.  It can be normal if the level was not right after an oil and filter change, or with a faulty engine.   What it was not was acceptable.  There was an issue.  With the car and the dealership employee.

 

VAG TSI engines have problems with the piston rings.

Theoretically the engine has to be opened up and new piston rings fitted. This is a head off job.

Was the car purchased from a Skoda dealer and is it still under warranty? 

On 28/02/2021 at 21:36, 26DIPP said:

VAG TSI engines have problems with the piston rings.

Theoretically the engine has to be opened up and new piston rings fitted. This is a head off job.

 

Do you mean some 1.8 / 2.0 tsi engines have problems?

 

My 1.4tsi Superb uses hardly any oil at 91k miles. Don't really need to top up between services.

 

My son has a 1.2tsi Octavia that burns no oil at all.

 

The 1.8 is well known for this - some do some don't. A friend of mine has a 1.8 tsi Yeti that's OK.

 

I'm afraid this is a potentially expensive repair as it's a major engine rebuild.

 

 

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3 hours ago, Skoda789 said:

Was the car purchased from a Skoda dealer and is it still under warranty? 

Not from a Skoda dealer and only had 3 months warranty

On 02/03/2021 at 21:40, bigjohn said:

 

Do you mean some 1.8 / 2.0 tsi engines have problems?

 

My 1.4tsi Superb uses hardly any oil at 91k miles. Don't really need to top up between services.

 

My son has a 1.2tsi Octavia that burns no oil at all.

 

The 1.8 is well known for this - some do some don't. A friend of mine has a 1.8 tsi Yeti that's OK.

 

I'm afraid this is a potentially expensive repair as it's a major engine rebuild.

 

 

If you search piston rings tsi you get some hits.

Also look at this site. They have a picture of the newer piston rings. https://www.autohaus-dietler.com.au/repair-and-maintenance/tfsi-engine-high-oil-consumption/

 

I watched a you tube clip on a german speaking car channel about a change of the TSI rings a while ago.

The higher powered 1.4 TSI suffers from piston ring wear too.

 

I've also seen a few videos on YouTube from mechanics on this (also German).

 

One where they'd bought a 1.4 TSI (160bhp I think) and the piston rings were shot.

 

And there's a very good YouTube channel called Die Autodoktoren (the Car Doctors). The older guy is actually a Brit but he's lived there so long he's completely fluent.

 

They did 1.8 TSI and a 2.0 TSI. Same problem on both.

 

15 hours ago, Phil-E said:

The higher powered 1.4 TSI suffers from piston ring wear too.

 

 

 

Indeed the higher power EA111 1.4 was a twin charger (turbo + supercharger) - this version was awful on many fronts.  In the Skoda range of cars this was only fitted to the mkII Fabia VRS - I think?

 

Lower power EA111 versions were much better but earlier versions could have cam chain/tensioner issues.   The 125ps turbo (only!) is the version fitted to the 1.4 mkII Superb.

 

The 1.4 Superb mkIII has the totally different cam belt EA211 engine.

 

 

No it was also fitted to many VWs but not just the 180bhp version.

 

There was a 140 and 160 bhp version and they both used the twin charger design.

 

But they suffered loads of issues such as oil consumption, piston rings, timing chains, super charger pulleys, water pumps leaking, failed intercooler heat exchangers etc.

 

And yes the lower powered 122ps version as fitted to the MK2 Octavia and Superb was far more reliable.

Watched a clip on YouTube, a guy going on about Audi oil usage and how they get round it by stating in the handbook that 1ltr usage per 1000km or miles ( can’t remember) is normal.

 

Which to me is a joke 

Yup. They're cheeky and say that up to 1l per 1000km is withing tolerance.

 

But that's just crazy. In my experience of many different engines they've all used basically no oil between 10,000 mile changes or very little. The worst being my previous 1.9 PD105. When driven hard (driving to Germany springs to mind) I would usually have to top up with around 1/4 of a litre across 2000km at worst.

 

If you're using up to 1l per 1000km then you're having to buy nearly 15l of oil a year just to top-up... And by which point you can save the cost of new oil and just screw a new filter on since all the oil is still new!

1 hour ago, Phil-E said:

Yup. They're cheeky and say that up to 1l per 1000km is withing tolerance.

 

But that's just crazy. In my experience of many different engines they've all used basically no oil between 10,000 mile changes or very little. The worst being my previous 1.9 PD105. When driven hard (driving to Germany springs to mind) I would usually have to top up with around 1/4 of a litre across 2000km at worst.

 

If you're using up to 1l per 1000km then you're having to buy nearly 15l of oil a year just to top-up... And by which point you can save the cost of new oil and just screw a new filter on since all the oil is still new!

Basically what the guy was saying 

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