Does any one have a Scooby how to find out the exact part number required for certain parts. My car went in for a service and they commented on the need to replace brake pads but I will just get my local garage to replace these. Problem is when I search via my reg number for new brake pads it says there are several different sizes so how can I know which ones?

 

On a related topic is there any real advantage of a premium brand like Brembo over a more common brand like Bosch??

Have a look at your data sticker in the boot, do you see 1KU, 2EM, or 1KZ?

 

I believe if you have like the 280ps Superb then you'll have 1KZ which is 310mm vented, if it's 1KU then it'll be 300mm solid disc

its just the 190 TDI and the discs definitely aren't vented

4 minutes ago, darwinjake said:

its just the 190 TDI and the discs definitely aren't vented

Ah, sorry I did read you meant brake pads and I listed the disc sizes.

 

Have a look here https://www.bremboparts.com/europe/en/catalogue/skoda-superb-iii-estate-3v5-2-0-tdi/000115168-1

 

You can see the brake system pn on the right.

 

When I do my brakes it'll be going with Brembo, purely because their discs are coated by the hub, so no more rust.

 

Are your rear brakes in a manky condition? I was advised to change because of scorning etc but what I done was drive around in Eco for ages as you don't get the engine breaking so you brake more which cleans it up, obviously this wears everything down a tad but if your pads are thinning then driving in eco isn't going to help at all

Also, if you go onto the likes of eurocarparts when you click Fitment detail it'll say 1KU etc.

 

Whats weird though, is my front brakes are not listed on my data sticker, but as I have the 190ps tdi it'll be 1ZA, but I agree it's far too confusing for something which should be simple

The situation with brake pads is confusing.

 

You need the 'PR number. This specifies the brake system, but isn't necessarily the same as the manufacturer of the pads,  so you can have, eg, Bosch pads for a Teves system, or Teves pads to fit the Bosch system for a particular car..

 

In addition, the information in the boot on my car covered the brake system at one end of the car, and not the other, and that can also cause confusion, until you understand it.

 

There is probably a significant difference between different suppliers (and there will often be differences from a single supplier, so Brembo make their ordinary pads, and also an X series)

 

There are various parameters which will have more or less interest to you:

 

Max temperature/fade

Immediacy/sharpness

cold temperature performance/need to warm up

Dust

Wear life (pads/discs)

Predictability

pedal feel

Price

 

and it is difficult to say what your priorities are, and something like immediacy you could have too much or too little of.

 

In general when an enthusiast says a pad is 'good', they will mean a pad that doesn't fade under their usage conditions, and everything else will be secondary.

 

 

21 minutes ago, Danoid said:

Whats weird though, is my front brakes are not listed on my data sticker,

It seems to be the norm with VW group, possibly policy to dissuade amateurs from mending their own cars.  

 

Obtaining the full 'car data' from an obliging parts department employee, or yourself via erWin for a small fee (<£10) is the solution, and will give you all of the PR codes, far more than what is shown on the sticker.

I wonder if they only list the rear brakes as it may be an option?? Do they still do drums on any of the trims?

My sticker just shows the rear as well

11 minutes ago, darwinjake said:

I wonder if they only list the rear brakes as it may be an option?? Do they still do drums on any of the trims?

My sticker just shows the rear as well

It is strange but on mine I literally have an empty space where it could easily go 😂

Build code 1KU means that you have 300mm diameter solid rear brake discs.

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/brake-disc-10132/skoda/superb/superb-estate-3v5/115168-2-0-tdi?supplier[0]=3&criteria[100][1]=HA

 

These should fit the 312mm diameter front brake discs on the Superb MK3.

EBC DPX2150 Front Brake Pads

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/263091310141?epid=248957621&hash=item3d4176ce3d:g:VY8AAOSwuxpZa2Xo

 

These should fit the 300mm diameter solid rear brake discs on the Superb MK3.

EBC DPX2153 Rear Brake Pads

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291600255351?hash=item43e4bac977:g:5j8AAOSwReBZdJt4

 

Edited 5 October, 20214 yr by Carlston

To add on to premium/other brands.

 

brembo sold aftermarket is not a premium product but just using the brand name but the parts are crap.

 

pagid are a very good brand to go for that I’d recommend 

9 hours ago, darwinjake said:

Does any one have a Scooby how to find out the exact part number required for certain parts. My car went in for a service and they commented on the need to replace brake pads but I will just get my local garage to replace these. Problem is when I search via my reg number for new brake pads it says there are several different sizes so how can I know which ones?

 

On a related topic is there any real advantage of a premium brand like Brembo over a more common brand like Bosch??

 

Why not let your local garage source the brake parts?  

While on the subject of braking, reading @Camlobe comment of Max temperature/fade I noticed when heavily braking in my 280 there was lots of brake fade which I havent experienced for a number of years, only in low powered company cars I used to rag around when much younger!

 

Both front and rear discs have a few mm lip on the edge so will probably need replacing before next MOT, so am guessing that is why they fade, or they are cheap discs put on by the previous owner!

It isn't usually the disks. Assuming we are comparing steel disks with steel disks, the thermal conductivity is going to be very similar. They may corrode at different rates, which will affect wear, and if they are vented, the venting might be slightly more effective, but the pads are the big thing.

 

'Cheap' pad materials are likely to fade at lower temperature than better ones, and you can't always say 'Brand A is Bad, Brand Z is  Great.. EBC, for example make four ranges of pads, and the cheapest, Optimax, are pretty poor. The colour ones (yellow, green, red) are better, but significantly more expensive.

 

These days, with regulation 90, the initial coefficient of friction is constrained by law, if the pads are going to be used on the road.

 

When you get to the point that there is hardly any pad material left, all bets are off.

1 hour ago, the_wiley said:

While on the subject of braking, reading @Camlobe comment of Max temperature/fade I noticed when heavily braking in my 280 there was lots of brake fade which I haven't experienced for a number of years, only in low powered company cars I used to rag around when much younger!

 

Maybe the brake pads were changed at some point to cheap aftermarket pads as opposed to good aftermarket pads. As you can see from the below link, good aftermarket pads don't have to be expensive.

 

TRW Front Brake Pads - Build Code 1LA (for 340mm diameter front discs)

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/trw/11288579

 

Edited 8 October, 20214 yr by Carlston

9 hours ago, the_wiley said:

While on the subject of braking, reading @Camlobe comment of Max temperature/fade I noticed when heavily braking in my 280 there was lots of brake fade which I havent experienced for a number of years, only in low powered company cars I used to rag around when much younger!

 

Both front and rear discs have a few mm lip on the edge so will probably need replacing before next MOT, so am guessing that is why they fade, or they are cheap discs put on by the previous owner!

Has the brake fluid ever been checked or changed?

@Wino the brake fluid was changed 15,000 miles ago. I have all the history that doesn't show discs have ever been replaced but it has had pads all done by an independant garage. The car is on 69,000 now. 

 

After the brake fade happened I stopped and checked the discs and they looked scorched in some areas, but the scorch marks faded away after a few hundred miles. The pads have at least 8mm on them by the looks of it.

Measure the thickness of the discs and compare with minimum value.  I share earlier posters doubts that this has anything to do with the discs.

 

Have looked at the discs, they are 30 mm wide when new, mine are down to about 26 mm. I could not find the minimum tolerance exactly so not sure if they are within the limits or not.

9 hours ago, the_wiley said:

Have looked at the discs, they are 30 mm wide when new, mine are down to about 26 mm. I could not find the minimum tolerance exactly so not sure if they are within the limits or not.

 

Minimum thickness is 27mm on the 340mm diameter front brake discs.

 

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/brake-disc-10132/skoda/superb/superb-3v3/112399-2-0-tsi-4x4?supplier[0]=3&supplier[1]=833&criteria[100][2]=VA