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Stop/start - didn’t realise you could restart using the steering wheel!

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Probably old news to most but today I found out you can restart the engine by a very slight turn of the steering wheel, sorry if this is old news but it beats touching the accelerator pedal!  
4 days of ownership and loving the car….

Yep it’s a trick I’ve learned to use when at a junction and I want to get away swiftly. Doesn’t take much movement either to get it to start. That combined with the 4x4 and 280 engine makes for a pretty speedy launch usually without actually having to use launch control (which would look rather silly at every traffic lights! 😆)

Interesting behavior, but I will keep on feathering the gas pedal instead to avoid early wear on ball joints of the steering system and front axle.

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6 hours ago, Bap33 said:

Interesting behavior, but I will keep on feathering the gas pedal instead to avoid early wear on ball joints of the steering system and front axle.

You only need to move the steering wheel a minute amount for the engine to start, I very much doubt it would cause wear on the steering system.

On my Karoq I discovered this week that the engine will restart when the car in front of me moves away! 

 

Chris

20 minutes ago, CJJE said:

On my Karoq I discovered this week that the engine will restart when the car in front of me moves away! 

 

Chris

It does so IF you have the ACC on, at least for me.. Thats to get your attention to press the pedal, or move the stalk for the car to continue following traffic.

Nope, never use ACC, I have it set to the Speed Limiter instead. But I've got the front assist camera as well as the front radar sensor so it's one of those sensing the car in front of me moving away and restarting the engine for me :)

 

Chris

1 hour ago, CJJE said:

Nope, never use ACC, I have it set to the Speed Limiter instead. But I've got the front assist camera as well as the front radar sensor so it's one of those sensing the car in front of me moving away and restarting the engine for me :)

 

Chris

Interesting, must be a MY2021 thing, i also have the camera, and the front assist radar, as well as the ACC radar.. But for me it only restarts the engine on its own if ACC and TJA are on!

Is it a proper restart 'thing' or just the electric rack consuming some power when wheel is tweaked and car restarts with the increased electrical load??

35 minutes ago, NJRJ said:

Is it a proper restart 'thing' or just the electric rack consuming some power when wheel is tweaked and car restarts with the increased electrical load??

Exactly that 

3 hours ago, CJJE said:

Nope, never use ACC, I have it set to the Speed Limiter instead. But I've got the front assist camera as well as the front radar sensor so it's one of those sensing the car in front of me moving away and restarting the engine for me :)

 

Chris

Same here car in front moves car starts up 

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7 hours ago, patrolman said:

Same here car in front moves car starts up 

Can’t find anything in the user manual on this, anyone know what superb models have this function?

You need to have a front camera with Front Assist function. Then the car recognises moving cars in front of you

I guess its on MY 2020 and newer! The older ones that even have the front assist do not turn on unless its on ACC!

2 hours ago, LexLuthor said:

You need to have a front camera with Front Assist function. Then the car recognises moving cars in front of you

I don't have this but do have ACC

 

When the car in front moves mine starts so it must be the radar.

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11 minutes ago, IJWS15 said:

I don't have this but do have ACC

 

When the car in front moves mine starts so it must be the radar.

Interesting, sounds like we are in the same boat, I don’t have a front facing camera but have ACC, I’ll have to give this a try…..

 

Yep, mine also instantly fires up when the car in front sets away.

For the older models it works only if you have ACC on, and are in a traffic jam.. I guess for newer MY cars it works all the time!

I actually find myself paranoid that pedestrians might think I am useless and stalling the car, as often the engine will cut out before I get to a complete halt but it cuts back in immediately as the car in front has started to move before I have even stopped.

 

You can restart by pumping the brakes too. It recognises the drop in pressure and starts the engine

11 hours ago, Gax said:

I actually find myself paranoid that pedestrians might think I am useless and stalling the car, as often the engine will cut out before I get to a complete halt but it cuts back in immediately as the car in front has started to move before I have even stopped.

 

The S&S can shut the engine down as soon as you’re below 5km/h and foot on brake pedal. 
I dislike this and even find it dangerous sometimes when it happens at roundabouts just when you intend to insert in the trafic. It’s even amplified with a manual gearbox (on my wife’s Q3 for instance) compared to my DSG6. It stalls just when you need power.

2 hours ago, Bap33 said:

The S&S can shut the engine down as soon as you’re below 5km/h and foot on brake pedal. 
I dislike this and even find it dangerous sometimes when it happens at roundabouts just when you intend to insert in the trafic. It’s even amplified with a manual gearbox (on my wife’s Q3 for instance) compared to my DSG6. It stalls just when you need power.

 

I think for me with DSG it's fine as it restarts pretty much immediately, but I can well imagine it being a bit disconcerting potentially having the 'wrong' gear selected in a manual after not realising the engine has just shut down.

 

I do have to say I'm surprised how many people dislike stop/start at roundabouts though. I certainly don't drive like an old granny, but in four months of owning the car I can only think of maybe two times at a roundabout I've thought 'FFS!' when the car has cut out just when I didn't want it to.

 

I'm certainly not suggesting this about you, but the feeling from many of the critiques I have read about stop/start and roundabouts is that they probably come from the kind of people who pull out in front of me onto a roundabout I am circling, when they only have a metre gap before I plough into them (which sadly sems to be about 80% of people at roundabouts these days).

I thought it was telekinesis 😉🤣 If i let go of the steering while waiting it restarts as soon as I think "they are moving"

and get hold of the steering wheel.

4 hours ago, Gax said:

I think for me with DSG it's fine as it restarts pretty much immediately

It is indeed. The problem is much more sensitive on manual gearboxes.

 

4 hours ago, Gax said:

I'm certainly not suggesting this about you, but the feeling from many of the critiques I have read about stop/start and roundabouts is that they probably come from the kind of people who pull out in front of me onto a roundabout I am circling, when they only have a metre gap before I plough into them (which sadly seems to be about 80% of people at roundabouts these days).

I don't take it personally, since I don't belong to this kind of drivers. ;) 

However, when this S&S problem happens (on my wife's Q3 in particular, with manual gearbox) and sticks me in the middle of a roundabout, though I had taken enough margin (or at least, I thought I had, not considering this would occur) not to pull out in front of other drivers, the result is the same... I get stuck in the middle in a roundabout and other driver can have the same feeling as you: What the hell this %£$@#& guy is doing!?!

The first time this happens to you, you can easily panic and make a real mess with pressing clutch pedal, shutting wilingly the engine down with the key, try to restart, but nothing happens as you like.

Now, that I have sadly experienced this several times (fortunately without any accident), the lesson learnt for me, is to simply press the clutch pedal, which forces the engine to restart in the S&S control logic. Then I can restart normally and less dangerously. I hope it may help other drivers... ;) 

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