2 minutes ago, nta16 said:

sepulchrave this is one of the problems of the hit & run method of posting, you miss things. -

 

 

 

I was taking the p155 🙃

1 minute ago, sepulchrave said:

 

I was taking the p155 🙃

Whooosh, over the head, sorry, in that case please carry on as far as I'm concerned, a very second millennium Carry On remark you made though.

 

Whenever I put one-line or short replies they always seem to be read as aggressive when I don't mean them to be, hence the windbag explanations.

 

I done well there, just a two sentence post . . . doh!

 

4 hours ago, nta16 said:

Uhmmmm, is this one of the reasons you get so tetchy at times.  😁

 

 

 

Its the reason that my postings are consistent, it's very easy to spot those that overimbibe and to avoid engaging with them after a certain hour.

 

It's a real problem on French forums hence my earlier comment. I have witnessed the decline of many from my computer, several divorces and sadly a couple of suicides.

 

There but for the grace of god go I, I could so easily have gone the same way, I was on the path when I became teetotal 12 years ago.

2 minutes ago, J.R. said:

Its the reason that my postings are consistent, it's very easy to spot those that overimbibe and to avoid engaging with them after a certain hour.

 

It's a real problem on French forums hence my earlier comment. I have witnessed the decline of many from my computer, several divorces and sadly a couple of suicides.

 

There but for the grace of god go I, I could so easily have gone the same way, I was on the path when I became teetotal 12 years ago.

 

I tend not to drink if I can help it as I don't know when I'll be called out to go somewhere that involves taking the car. I don't get the fascination with drinking (especially heavily, something which is ingrained in the culture of my area sadly) to be honest. 

I think with my posts it'd be very difficult to tell if I've been affected, especially if I do a quick post without multiply edits.  I often have difficulties with reading off screens and speeling  stone cold sober and I go to our 'local' micropub twice a week early evening and leave early evening so my late evening ramblings, or other times, are just my usual state of mind.

 

When I was about 14 a friend of a friend was an acholic died whilst sleeping by choking on his own vomit so I think that was enough of a warning at a young enough age.  I'm not a big drinker, just a real ale coniseer conissir snob, well that's what I'm told because prefer a good ale, well kept and well served.

 

Good on you for not drinking and anyone else that wants to or needs to, a lot of youngsters are non-acholic and are well catered for in the big cities I'm told (I don't even like small towns so would know).

 

Decades back I gave up drinking for a week at Xmas and week rolled into 15 months just for the sake of it but I was too popular - as a chauffer and the silly no-alcohol bottled beer (lager?) tasted awful and small  two bottles of it gave me a splitting headache worse than if I'd drank too much as a teenager.  During those 15 months I easily adapted and didn't miss the ales (but there went as many good brews and the variety of them back then).   Same as if needed I could easily become vegetarian tonight, any veggie curry, particularly potatoes, and any sort of curry even English 70s sugar fruit curries with very little spice or curry flavour as change is as good as a rest.  😁

 

There, a short and precise post!

 

 

Heavy drinking often involves violence and I'd never have kept my charm and looks (and modesty) if I hadn't avoided those people.

 

5 minutes ago, nta16 said:

Good on you for not drinking and anyone else that wants to or needs to, a lot of youngsters are non-acholic and are well catered for in the big cities I'm told (I don't even like small towns so would know).

 

Thanks. Maybe have a whisky once or twice a month, or a red wine but never in excess and the former often has either a wee bit of water or a lemonade added. It all just depends really. I don't see the point in the idea of getting hammered every weekend to feel like death the next morning. I'm in the sticks of SW Scotland so I know of a few folk who do just that then rant about how they're "aff it" as they walk about half-dead to get some of their shopping.

25 minutes ago, AnnoyingPentium said:

former often has either a wee bit of water or a lemonade added.

If a drink needs something adding then it's not good enough in itself, if you want or prefer to add anything that's a different matter, personally I find the ale I have good enough to drink neat .  😊

 

No amount of lemonade or water would ever make a wine drinkable for me, I can just not get along with it, some whiskeys I might manage a few sips to be polite but that's all and I'd have it neat or with a little water if insisted on, be a boring world if we were all the same.

 

I don't want to give the impression I don't sometimes have too much but not to any silly or anti-social levels (well no more than when I'm cold sober anyway) and for a good few decades it's been about once every 10 years I've had too much and regret it - but that must be about overdue now.

 

I'm lucky because I can't stand Xmas or New Year's celebrations so avoid that drinking stupidity and the results of it.

 

3 minutes ago, nta16 said:

No amount of lemonade or water would ever make a wine drinkable for me

 

I don't put lemonade or water in the wine. That's a grammatical eff up on my part.

 

Only in the whisky is there water or lemonade.

 

4 minutes ago, nta16 said:

be a boring world if we were all the same.

 

Well said, that man.

6 minutes ago, AnnoyingPentium said:

I don't put lemonade or water in the wine. That's a grammatical eff up on my part.

 

Only in the whisky is there water or lemonade.

No you put "former", I didn't reply well, the lack of alcohol has gotten to me. 🙃

 

Cheers.

 

What was  fault code p0130 anyway

 

 

 

 . . . no, I'm only joking, it's sorted it's dun.

 

Cheers.

 

2 hours ago, AnnoyingPentium said:

 

Thanks. Maybe have a whisky once or twice a month, or a red wine but never in excess and the former often has either a wee bit of water or a lemonade added. It all just depends really. I don't see the point in the idea of getting hammered every weekend to feel like death the next morning. I'm in the sticks of SW Scotland so I know of a few folk who do just that then rant about how they're "aff it" as they walk about half-dead to get some of their shopping.

 

Aren't you only 17 and therefore too young to drink? 😛

7 hours ago, TMB said:

 

Aren't you only 17 and therefore too young to drink? 😛

 

No comment. 

12 hours ago, AnnoyingPentium said:

 

No comment. 

 

Hehe 😁

20 hours ago, TMB said:

Aren't you only 17 and therefore too young to drink? 😛

Not so, where's the hotelier to answer this(?).

 

(Scottish?) law says that if you're 16 accompanied by an adult, you can drink beer, wine or cider if you're out eating a meal at a restaurant or other licensed premises.  At home or on other private premises it's not illegal for a child aged 5 to 17 to drink alcohol, it is against the law to give alcohol to children under 5.

 

It is better that those parents that want to teach their offspring controlled sensible, responsible social drink habits rather than a 18 year old, or older, starts drinking alcohol legally having no real experience before.

 

It used to be that you might grow up near a local pub where as a youngster you'd have to behave yourself and no getting ****ed and/or getting into fights - unless you lived in a very rough area.

 

Just now, nta16 said:

(Scottish?) law says that if you're 16 accompanied by an adult, you can drink beer, wine or cider if you're out eating a meal at a restaurant or other licensed premises.  At home or on other private premises it's not illegal for a child aged 5 to 17 to drink alcohol, it is against the law to give alcohol to children under 5.

 

Aye that sounds about right to me.

11 minutes ago, nta16 said:

Not so, where's the hotelier to answer this(?).

 

 

 

 

Yeah I know. I was just joking with him.

So the dreaded eml light is back on and im throwing up the p0130 fault code again bank 1 sensor 1 and the sensor 2 readings are showing high like before.

Issue now is i need to use this car every day for next 3 weeks.

o2 sensor changed ive checked all the vacuum hoses and had a spray about with engine running to see if any vacuum leaks so im at a loss now does anyone have any thoughts on what else it could be or i could check please ???

Well if the parts are of good quality and this is your second change then perhaps it the wiring or connectors or connection to whatever computer or problem inside the computer (or its programming) or sumfink else.  Best if you can post up a freeze frame or live data report or list of all other error codes and see if those that know about these things (not me) can spot anything.

 

What are your readings for pre and posts sensors, that might be a start?

 

Did you hear and rattles or noises on the exhaust bit when you had them off the car or on those that stayed on the car?

 

Ive only changed pre cat sensor as after last topic was told thats where fault most likely was, the pre cat results are coming in as should be but bank 1 sensor 2 short term fueltrim is coming in at 28.13% running rich at tick over which cannot be correct hence now im getting poor fuel economy again and between each gear change at around 1200 to 2000 rpm it feels as though it lags then accelerates.

Yeap, that get the light on.

 

I've lifted below from a webpage, you might also want to read the page just to see if you've missed checking something before, link below (other webpages are available).

 

"Diagnosing an engine that is running rich is really not that simple. It often requires some diagnosis skills if you do want to waste money on just replacing parts. -

This is how a professional would do it, and you might need some extra tools to make it.

1. Connect an OBD2 Scanner and check for related trouble codes. If you find any other trouble code regarding another sensor, start your diagnosing at the sensor.
2. Check the live data values of the O2 sensor. Does it show that it is decreasing the fuel amount all the time? Then it is probably not any fault with this sensor.
3. If you have access to one emission control tester or an external air-fuel meter, connect it, and check the actual air-fuel meter. If it shows that the fuel mixture is lean, while the O2 sensor is telling us that the engine is rich and removing fuel – there is a problem with your O2 sensor, and it needs to be replaced.
4. Check the values of all the temperature sensors like the coolant and air temperature.
5. Check the values of the MAF sensor or MAP sensor if you have one. Replace if faulty.
6. Check the fuel pressure and ensure that the pressure is not too high on idle or on acceleration. Check the fuel pressure regulator or the vacuum hose to it if it is too high."

 

Sorry about all the adverts but it's free advice so . . . https://mechanicbase.com/engine/engine-running-rich/

 

Edited 5 December, 20214 yr by nta16

Im not exactly sure what all the values actually should be I just know that one is way off guess im going to have to pull it apart again thought this issue was all sorted no such luck it seems.

Some scanners give a range but it doesn't matter as the values can usually be looked up, normal type figures range - but if you can put up all the info you can those that know can say.

 

I don't know what scan tool you have but even the really low priced ones should give you the basic info subject to their programs and being relevant to your model and year.  If you're not sure have a look at a few videos of your scan tool model, some are better than others and some you might gel with more than others, some have a knack of making things easy to follow and understand whilst others make the simplest operation way more complicated in their presentation.

 

Edited 5 December, 20214 yr by nta16

You can have these problems with worn valve guides or crispy stem seals on port injection engines, the engine is sucking oil and air down the guides throwing out the mixture control. Check the colour of the spark plug electrodes and look for any oil fouling.

using a really good scanner in all honesty will scan again tomorrow and take pics of all the values.

Im hoping its not stem seals as these were replaced just a few months ago when I changed the head gasket and had the head skimmed and will have the plugs out tomorrow and see if they are rather sooted up and check the oil :P If its valve guides im assuming im sunk.

33 minutes ago, Stewartasb said:

using a really good scanner in all honesty will scan again tomorrow and take pics of all the values.

Im hoping its not stem seals as these were replaced just a few months ago when I changed the head gasket and had the head skimmed and will have the plugs out tomorrow and see if they are rather sooted up and check the oil 😛 If its valve guides im assuming im sunk.

 

I think you'll be ok, I didn't know you'd already done the seals so I doubt it's that, I was simply throwing in another cause of the symptoms you describe, to be honest we've already covered everything once so I'd go ahead and replace sensor 2 since sensor 1 has already been done, failing that you need a new cat.