12 hours ago, Ootohere said:

them missing appointments that were made

Did you get any credit as compensation?

 

I just finished having other work done on my house, still Tesla Powerwall install to go. I took the opportunity to move solar PV meter and isolator out of the DNO box, shouldn't have been installed there. This created space for mains isolation switch. I want mains isolation switch to make it easier working on wiring. The first appointment Octopus had a mix up and person due for my appointment was in Leicester. I received £30 compensation for missed appointment.

This video has just dropped on YT, sounds about right, like Geoff Buys Cars has been claiming that we are being/have been lied to, so, are we all being hood winked??

 

 

1 hour ago, Graham Butcher said:

This video has just dropped on YT, sounds about right, like Geoff Buys Cars has been claiming that we are being/have been lied to, so, are we all being hood winked??

 

 

Have you actually had a think about what you are sharing?

 

Only true if you take 650 g/kWh this guy claims: 

 

 

 

Not true in rest of the world, for example in UK, currently it is 35 g/kWh: https://www.energydashboard.co.uk/live

 

 

Highest last 2 days was 80 g/kWh at 18:30 (peak time)

 

Same everything else, using highest UK value over last 2 days works out to be:  2.2 T

Total (using his numbers for everything else):  9.2 T

Vs the smaller ICE Mazda of 22.5 T.

 

51 minutes ago, wyx087 said:

Have you actually had a think about what you are sharing?

 

Only true if you take 650 g/kWh this guy claims: 

 

 

 

Not true in rest of the world, for example in UK, currently it is 35 g/kWh: https://www.energydashboard.co.uk/live

 

 

Highest last 2 days was 80 g/kWh at 18:30 (peak time)

 

Same everything else, using highest UK value over last 2 days works out to be:  2.2 T

Total (using his numbers for everything else):  9.2 T

Vs the smaller ICE Mazda of 22.5 T.

 

But at the same time this site also carries this warning.

 

 

And while your figures might well be true, in truth I can't be arsed to work them out, and as you say, using his figures for Australia, then why are the Australian government also pushing the same green car ideology if his figures prove the argument to be false?

 

So yes, I did pose the question "are we all being hood winked" but that question was not "UK specific" as I don't believe this briskoda forum is just restricted to the UK is it, I mean we have members from all points of the globe, the only restriction is that all posts must be in English is that fair enough?

Edited 21 August, 20241 yr by Graham Butcher

How many sources do you need?

 

https://www.nationalgrideso.com/future-energy/our-progress-towards-net-zero/carbon-intensity-dashboard

https://electricityinfo.org/real-time-british-electricity-supply/

https://carbonintensity.org.uk/

 

All agree we are currently 31 gCO2/kW. The first dashboard showing 32 gCO2/kW. Rounding errors.

 

No, we are not being "hood winked". Because over time the grid becomes cleaner and the lifetime CO2 emission of EV also decreases:

https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-uk-electricity-from-fossil-fuels-drops-to-lowest-level-since-1957/

 

Australia is unique due to their HUGE coal presence in the government. If anything, fossil fuel industry has their government "hood winked".

https://www.carbonbrief.org/the-carbon-brief-profile-australia/

 

In the English speaking countries, not a lot of region can compete with Australia in terms of coal consumption.

 

End of the day, that video contains lots of assumptions.

ICE car will emit those 22 T of CO2 over its lifetime, at minimum, at point of use. (fuel refinement and extraction, manufacturing not included in calculation)

The EV will emit maximum of 25 T of CO2 over its lifetime, assuming the grid never get more renewable install and the vehicle is always charged from the grid.  (unknown if coal extraction and transport was included in the energy source calculation)

 

So you tell me if who is "hood winked" by who? Not stating assumptions made and cherry picking numbers.

I heard on the radio today that the biggest Solar Farm ever is to be built in Australia and electricity transmitted to Darwin and an undersea interconnector to export electricity to Singapore.

3 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

I heard on the radio today that the biggest Solar Farm ever is to be built in Australia and electricity transmitted to Darwin and an undersea interconnector to export electricity to Singapore.

 

Sun Cable, owned by billionaire Mike Cannon-Brookes, said the approval was “a vote of confidence” in the project.

I could live with the looks of this. 

 

Another one of Geoff Thompsons warnings is looking like it could become a reality soon. Its the thin end of the wedge and its going to get worse still. A ban on cars will also of course include all the electric cars even with their zero tailpipe emissions, so it looks like the cleaning of the air with the LEZ zones etc was nothing more than a smoke screen it seems.

 

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Edited 22 August, 20241 yr by Graham Butcher

The people get what the people want, or what others vote for. 

The UK Government Transport Minister said in an interview this morning that they will support ALL Councils in England wanting to implement LTNs (Low Traffic Neighbourhoods) and 20mph zones - not necessarily promising funding though.

 

So it's not a Bristol specific or ICE specific policy.

Cars are not a symbol of freedom and should have never be seen as such. Decades of car centric road design are actually the opposite of freedom for people who cannot afford to drive. This is a more concerning social divide than driveways.

 

Despite paid fine for driving through newly introduced LTN, I personally welcome LTN and banning cars in areas that are not suitable..... as long as there is actual viable transport option for all abilities. In the end, there should only be vans remain on the road.

 

Pick the right tool for the right job. Since no longer get EV parking discounts, I no longer drive into central London. It is quicker, easier and less stressful to take the tube/train. This is a perfect example of viable mainstream transport method and driving seen as alternative option. I think this is what we need in all built-up areas.

14 minutes ago, wyx087 said:

Cars are not a symbol of freedom and should have never be seen as such. Decades of car centric road design are actually the opposite of freedom for people who cannot afford to drive. This is a more concerning social divide than driveways.

 

Despite paid fine for driving through newly introduced LTN, I personally welcome LTN and banning cars in areas that are not suitable..... as long as there is actual viable transport option for all abilities. In the end, there should only be vans remain on the road.

 

Pick the right tool for the right job. Since no longer get EV parking discounts, I no longer drive into central London. It is quicker, easier and less stressful to take the tube/train. This is a perfect example of viable mainstream transport method and driving seen as alternative option. I think this is what we need in all built-up areas.

Odd that you would rather take the tube now that your EV parking perk has been removed even though you claimed the ULEZ was essential to make the air safe to breathe. The air quality on the tube is a magnitude worse than on the street 🤔

5 minutes ago, Graham Butcher said:

Odd that you would rather take the tube now that your EV parking perk has been removed even though you claimed the ULEZ was essential to make the air safe to breathe. The air quality on the tube is a magnitude worse than on the street 🤔

Air in tube is breathed by people who get to choose to travel via tube. Most of whom are healthy working age. It has higher PM but much lower NOx.

Air on surface from cars are being breathed in by everyone, including kids and elderly. ULEZ have helped reduce NOx, and PM from ICE.

It is also possible to commute via buses, breathing cleaner air on the surface. But selfish people in cars make it really slow.

 

EV parking perk and ULEZ related air quality improvements are completely unrelated.

I have never linked driving EV into the city to air quality, it was purely due to financial savings.

I heard reported what she said as here in the headines. About the 20 mph limits.

Not actually listened to it from the horses mouth. 

We really are heading backwards. Cars allow social mobility, allow people to visit other parts of the country, experience other lifestyles and get out of the city and visit the countryside at their own convenience and with their belongings. This gradual smothering of personal car ownership is going to send the UK back to the middle ages when most people never went more than a day walk away from where they grew up their whole life.

 

Of course, our elected leaders will be exempt from these restrictions...

38 minutes ago, apd007 said:

We really are heading backwards. Cars allow social mobility, allow people to visit other parts of the country, experience other lifestyles and get out of the city and visit the countryside at their own convenience and with their belongings. This gradual smothering of personal car ownership is going to send the UK back to the middle ages when most people never went more than a day walk away from where they grew up their whole life.

 

Of course, our elected leaders will be exempt from these restrictions...

Also the elites with more money than sense, i.e. more than likely some of the people who are shelling much money to the various thank tanks who are formulating these ridiculous policies that they are selling to the politicians and wrapping it all up as being good for the planet.

10 hours ago, apd007 said:

This gradual smothering of personal car ownership is going to send the UK back to the middle ages when most people never went more than a day walk away from where they grew up their whole life.

Both cars and trains didn't exist back in the middle ages. 

 

Now trains also exist. Done correctly, it is able to move massive amount of people cross country quickly and efficiently. Think Japan, China, Europe mainland. 

2 minutes ago, wyx087 said:

Both cars and trains didn't exist back in the middle ages. 

 

Now trains also exist. Done correctly, it is able to move massive amount of people cross country quickly and efficiently. Think Japan, China, Europe mainland. 

but not the USA lol

Nor UK!

1 hour ago, Winston_Woof said:

but not the USA lol

 

 

They fly around the country

Good to see diesel press moving on ...     https://dieselcar.com/ecocar-electrified-top-50-announced/

 

 He added “I am delighted to announce that the 2024 EcoCar Electrified Car of the Year is the outstanding Renault Scenic E-Tech, which also clinches the title of EcoCar Best Electric Medium SUV.”

 

Table...........

 

20	Volkswagen ID.7
19	Vauxhall Corsa	Best electric small car
18	Mercedes-Benz EQS
17	BMW 3 Series	Best plug-in hybrid large car Best plug-in hybrid large estate car
16	Hyundai Ioniq 5	Best electric hot hatch
15	BMW 7 Series and i7	Best electric luxury car
14	BMW iX	Best electric luxury SUV
13	Kia EV6
12	Hyundai Tucson
11	Renault Clio	Best hybrid small car
10	Kia Sportage
9	BMW 5 Series and i5	Best electric executive car
8	Nissan Qashqai
7	Genesis GV60
6	Dacia Jogger	Best hybrid estate car
5	Skoda Enyaq	Best electric large SUV
4	MG4	Best electric medium car
3	Kia Niro	Best plug-in hybrid medium SUV Best hybrid medium SUV
2	Lexus LBX	Best hybrid compact SUV
1	Renault Scenic	Electrified Car of the Year 2024 Best electric medium SUV

5 hours ago, wyx087 said:

Both cars and trains didn't exist back in the middle ages. 

 

Now trains also exist. Done correctly, it is able to move massive amount of people cross country quickly and efficiently. Think Japan, China, Europe mainland. 

True and when trains came about people did start to use them to go to other places, but they still are not the answer to dumbing down of the car, they have severe restrictions on where they can go or when they run and once the genie has been let out of the lamp, are you seriously suggesting that we go back in time and live with it?

 

Conclusion to Autotrader's high mileage Tesla series.

 

Interesting Range Rover are charging more for a tiny hybrid battery replacement compared to Tesla whole pack replacement. It's a disgrace.

There is definitely a big gap with regard to trained service personnel to work on EV's. But then, stealership are known to only replace not repair.

 

 

About 2 years ago, I felt steering loose on the Leaf and done an ATS free suspension check. They told me front right lower ball joint need replacing. But they don't work on EV's, so I have to take it elsewhere. Last week, before MOT I did another free suspension check, I am pretty sure left one is loose. Sure enough they told me left ball joint need replacing. This ATS branch do work on EV's now, and cheaper than the random garage I used 2 years ago. Result 

 

Probably just taken a course and been told don't touch orange wires. But this is desperately needed for all garages.

1 hour ago, Graham Butcher said:

True and when trains came about people did start to use them to go to other places, but they still are not the answer to dumbing down of the car, they have severe restrictions on where they can go or when they run and once the genie has been let out of the lamp, are you seriously suggesting that we go back in time and live with it?

I'm saying in order to feel the freedom to travel, one should not require use of a car.

After that change of mindset, banning cars or restricting cars is no big deal.

 

As I mentioned earlier, UK rail infrastructure is severally lacking. It was built before cars became wide spread. Combined with the fact it has had poor investment in recent decades. As such (UK) people do think of rail travel as going back in time, which is justified. This is symptom of UK's emphasis on cars over many decades, and as a consequence, people without cars are put at a huge disadvantage.

 

But having experienced modern and efficient mass transit elsewhere in the world, I honestly don't think going to train travel for longer distances, underground/bus/tram for built-up areas is going back in time. I think it is actually the next stage of civilisation. Mass transit can be easy, fast, frequent, efficient and effortless.