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This kind of anxiety is just pure madness.

Driving well over 6 hours with just 1 stop is quite a lot. Towards the end he could have done a 5min zap and dash, give those legs a stretch. No real hardship/anxiety other than self induced, for science.

But with a rapid charge and not from 100% to 0%, it doesn't really tell us much about the car's battery health. To me, it only tells us that getting 150k+ on the odometer is a piece of cake for EV powertrain.

7 hours ago, Graham Butcher said:

This kind of anxiety is just pure madness.

He doesn't seem anxious to me. 🙂 He knows what the car is capable of due to the miles he puts in. I've arrived home with less than 5% on several occasions but probably would not go as low as he does, just because I know I need 2-3% to make it up the hills to my house. Having a charger waiting at home is a very comforting thing.

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I arrive home with 5% from time to time (3% indicated has been the lowest) & that is with a battery of just about 33 k/Wh total capacity.

About 10 miles from home i know if i need to really ease off weather dependent.

I know depending on which of 4 roads i am coming in if there is chargers 2 miles, 1 mile or 1/2 mile away from home.

That can also be like Russian roulette if the chargers will be free or even working I see from some of your posts.

Home charging is 100% reliable, no roulette games required.

If charge point stops working, there's always the granny charger.

1 hour ago, Luckypants said:

He doesn't seem anxious to me. 🙂 He knows what the car is capable of due to the miles he puts in. I've arrived home with less than 5% on several occasions but probably would not go as low as he does, just because I know I need 2-3% to make it up the hills to my house. Having a charger waiting at home is a very comforting thing.

What about if you have no charger at home waiting for you? The anxiety would be my reaction, especially when I was working as I could well be heading off out early the next day on a decent journey.

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Seems easy enough for even someone not that bright.

You would behave differently. Like with a petrol or diesels.

You would put in energy / fuel before getting home.

No point rolling up to your home in the ICE vehicle with 10 miles range in the nearest fuel station is 15 miles from you.

There are people that do live 15 miles or more from fuel stations or ones not 24 hours.

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Yes Public Chargers can be Russian Roulette.

In my case it is the Council Chargers near that can be crap.

1/4 of a mile away at the Gulf Filling station there is the very very reliable but expensive InstaVolt charger i have only tried out but not used since.

It is a location location location thing really for drivers, and head for thinking and feet for dancing.

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I just got an email from Plugshare.

I report in at every charger i use or if beside ones that are faulty. PlugShare & ZapMap.

I wish others could be bothered to, and also report faulty ones to the operator / call centre.

There are ones that i use and weeks or months pass without anyone reporting in.

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13 hours ago, wyx087 said:

Home charging is 100% reliable, no roulette games required.

Well yes and no.

My dad had quite a few issues to start with. I think it was occurring due to conflicts between the charger and the car app (at least that's how it sounded to me). But he had quite a few incidents of waking up to find the car hadn't charged. Think it's resolved now but haven't discussed for a while.

My Cupra is being delivered on Friday which is quite exciting so I'll have some first hand experience soon though I hope to do as much of the charging as possible at work.

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1 hour ago, Dieselgate said:

My dad had quite a few issues to start with. I think it was occurring due to conflicts between the charger and the car app (at least that's how it sounded to me). But he had quite a few incidents of waking up to find the car hadn't charged. Think it's resolved now but haven't discussed for a while.

This kind of confusion easily happens. Key thing is keep it simple, only set one thing.

But once problem is understood, it should be very reliable.

To be clear, I'm not immune to charge point problems, my regular Indra unit also had problem not charging the car. Charge point connector had connection issues probably due to me stretching the cable to reach Leaf to do cell balancing. It was promptly replaced under warranty.

But during problematic times, if I know I must put energy into the car for the next day, I'd revert to granny charger. My point is that the charging location (home) is 100% reliable, there are many things can be done to manage known failures when at home. So arriving 0% is no problem.

Good news, the removal of the congestion charge exemption for EVs has been somewhat softened with the announcement of a 25% discount for electric vehicles (50% for electric vans) being reduced to 12.5% (and 25% for vans) in 2030.

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London Congestion Charge set to rise by 20% to £18 - BBC...

The daily cost of driving in central London should rise by £3 to £18, Transport for London says.

This is one I'm not sure is warranted. The idea is to reduce congestion, which EVs do not do. The ULEZ charges are about reducing pollution, so reductions there are fair enough.

It won't affect me, just expressing my opinion that it's not 'fair' EVs get a reduction when they are part of the congestion issue.

Very true.

I view this as a slightly less painful "stick", almost as a "carrot", to get people to switch to EV's. The discount only brings it down to £13.5, very small 10% discount "carrot" compared to current price.

I had paid £10 to register for the exemption up to last year, stopped due to Westminster no longer have extremely cheap EV parking. This year wife had a surgery slotted in rather suddenly so couldn't get exemption in place. So I paid the £15. oAll other times public transport is not only faster it's also less stressful. I personally think this kind of levy to deter people driving into zone 1 makes a lot of sense.

TBH, I think a lot of the busiest streets/area should be predestinated by now.

7 hours ago, Graham Butcher said:

Anybody have any idea what is going at Porsche, it is alleged that all Porsche dealers have been told to withdraw used Taycans from sale with immediate effect, just found out about it from the McMaster.

Porsche dealers told to ‘immediately remove’ select electric Taycan models from sale – Car Dealer Magazine

Literally 10 minutes ago I saw an advert for "used Porsche Tincans" (sic): No prices but finance at 9.9% APR.

@Graham Butcher You linked the article about what is going on at Porsche UK.

Do you really expect anyone here to know more than that, or are there maybe members here that are employees of the DVSA or Porsche / VW UK?

Absolutely vehicles that are under a Safety Critical Recall or should be should be kept off the roads.

Ones that are with Dealerships but ones with keepers should be off the road.

VW Group / Skoda are bad for messing owners about and sometimes accepting cars are unsafe and taking them in until fixed and leaving others out on the road with keepers and not providing courtesy cars or doing a buy back.

Other manufacturer groups as well like Stellantis.

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What fantastic news for The MacMaster.

He can be done with his car that has brought so much grief and clicks and income.

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51 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

What fantastic news for The MacMaster.

He can be done with his car that has brought so much grief and clicks and income.

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And he looks highly likely to go for a Gen 2 Taycan to continue down that path...

If getting a car for Business use then renting an BEV makes total sense if you can also get cheaper public charging from Porsche / Ionity chargers or others.

Just a tool of the trade for transportation and a prop for your work as far as making videos.

If really a 911 Porsche is your wish & your desire then splashing the cash and getting one is just simply clever as you are a long time dead.

It seems that China is also facing reluctance in accepting EVs with the government are also enforcing strict targets, forcing dealers to do the same as UK dealers, pre-register cars and then later selling as zero miles second hand cars, the government are now investigating this.

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