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KESSY functionality on mk4 Octavia

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Hey all,

 

Got my new Octavia coming soon with the Kessy system. Wanted to understand if I need to buy a box to keep key in?

 

Anyone able to detail the functionality of the system? Need to understand if Fob turns itself off after no movement?

 

My key location is normally under 10 feet from the car. Don't want it to be unlockable

 

Thx

Edited by Novascape

The functionality of KESSY depends on the model. My SEL FE gives keyless lock/unlock (walk up to it and grab the handle to unlock) as well as keyless starting of the engine. The loan SE FE I had for a few months only had keyless starting, to lock/unlock was a press of the fob button. I’ve heard the difference described as ‘Fully KESSY’ and ‘Half KESSY’ but no doubt the marketeers will be changing the terminology at regular intervals just to keep us on our toes 🙄

 

The range for the keyless lock/unlock is really quite short. I haven’t measured it but reckon it is less than 1 metre.  Like you, at first I was concerned about the car being parked on the drive outside and the key fob being located overnight not very far away. A few tests soon allayed those worries. 

 

I’ve no idea if the fob turns itself off or not, sorry.

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Thanks for info.

 

I read somewhere that the Fabia Kessy has movement sensor in Fob. Hoping it has same in the Octy

For peace of mind , and considering you can get 2 for less than £10, I would still put the keys in a faraday pouch when in the house. 

1 hour ago, Novascape said:

Hey all,

 

Got my new Octavia coming soon with the Kessy system. Wanted to understand if I need to buy a box to keep key in?

 

Anyone able to detail the functionality of the system? Need to understand if Fob turns itself off after no movement?

 

My key location is normally under 10 feet from the car. Don't want it to be unlockable

 

Thx

 

It depends on where you live. If you live in a less salubrious place then a simple tobacco tin placed in a drawer should suffice, but you can get RFID pouches from Amazon that should work and stop anything leaking from the key.

 

Just be aware that whilst working KESSY is great. 

 

The flipside of it, is if it plays up with battery running out at silly o'clock in the evening or morning, you won't be able to start the car without the alarm going bonkers and immobiliser kicking in. So keep a set of spare batteries in your bag or wallet so if it does stop working then you can do a simple battery change which usually fixes it. 

Edited by TheWanderer

8 minutes ago, TheWanderer said:

 

It depends on where you live. If you live in a less salubrious place then a simple tobacco tin placed in a drawer should suffice, but you can get RFID pouches from Amazon that should work and stop anything leaking from the key.

 

Just be aware that whilst working KESSY is great. 

 

The flipside of it, is if it plays up with battery running out at silly o'clock in the evening or morning, you won't be able to start the car without the alarm going bonkers and immobiliser kicking in. So keep a set of spare batteries in your bag or wallet so if it does stop working then you can do a simple battery change which usually fixes it. 

My car came with 3 keys. 2 of them sit in a drawer unused and presumably their batteries will last longer.

Can't you just use one of your spare keys when your battery runs out?

By law of sod the battery will expire when you are out and about, at work, evening out with friends etc.

 

I've got a second key in my work bag in a RFID pouch, plus a second set of batteries just to make sure that I'm not locked out and don't end up waiting for a taxi to get me home at 3.30 am after a 9h 30 shift. 

Edited by TheWanderer

Can a battery really go flat in one day without warning?

Our Golf Alltrack has the same system and over 6 years its batteries have gone low a couple of times - most recently only this week.

The car displayed a warning that the battery was low. 

I replaced it with a new 2032 within a couple of days.

I have never had a case where the key refused to work.

 

1 hour ago, DaveFromSydney said:

Can a battery really go flat in one day without warning?

Our Golf Alltrack has the same system and over 6 years its batteries have gone low a couple of times - most recently only this week.

The car displayed a warning that the battery was low. 

I replaced it with a new 2032 within a couple of days.

I have never had a case where the key refused to work.

 

My battery warning was on for a month before I replaced the battery, so no it can't run out 'immediately' and leave you stranded - unless you've got a defective fob?

 

Mine gave no warning. Just stopped. 

12 hours ago, TheWanderer said:

 

It depends on where you live. If you live in a less salubrious place then a simple tobacco tin placed in a drawer should suffice, but you can get RFID pouches from Amazon that should work and stop anything leaking from the key.

 

Just be aware that whilst working KESSY is great. 

 

The flipside of it, is if it plays up with battery running out at silly o'clock in the evening or morning, you won't be able to start the car without the alarm going bonkers and immobiliser kicking in. So keep a set of spare batteries in your bag or wallet so if it does stop working then you can do a simple battery change which usually fixes it. 


Fancier areas are often targeted for new cars, my wife is an insurance investigator and has had plenty of jobs going to fancy estates where keys have been cloned while they are still inside the house so they could drive off with the new car on the drive easily. 
There is the flip side in that they also might break into your house while you are asleep

and steal the keys from your bedside table while you are in the bed. Tends to happen most with Audis for some reason. 
 

Metal box near your front door is best option. 

28 minutes ago, MiniNinjaRob said:

Metal box near your front door is best option. 

I agree. Metal box isn't hard to use and it will help against opportunistic thieves. If you're being targeted then nothing at all is going to help. 

What you can use is if you have a safety can opener is a only food can and pop them in there and replace the top.

 

19 hours ago, DaveFromSydney said:

Can a battery really go flat in one day without warning?

Our Golf Alltrack has the same system and over 6 years its batteries have gone low a couple of times - most recently only this week.

The car displayed a warning that the battery was low. 

I replaced it with a new 2032 within a couple of days.

I have never had a case where the key refused to work.

 

Hi Dave, I'm afraid so! Happened to my wifes Fabia only a few weeks ago.

Well, batteries being cheap, perhaps I will start replacing them annually, like we do with the house smoke alarms.

 

18 hours ago, DaveFromSydney said:

Well, batteries being cheap, perhaps I will start replacing them annually, like we do with the house smoke alarms.

 

Also a good idea to rotate use between any keys you have.

18 hours ago, DaveFromSydney said:

Well, batteries being cheap, perhaps I will start replacing them annually, like we do with the house smoke alarms.

 

 

Well I've tried that and I suspect that they could well be the root cause of the problems. I've ditched the cheap versions and paid a bit more for duracell batteries and haven't had any problems with keys since.

5 hours ago, TheWanderer said:

 

Well I've tried that and I suspect that they could well be the root cause of the problems. I've ditched the cheap versions and paid a bit more for duracell batteries and haven't had any problems with keys since.

When I said "cheap" I was not referring to those from the bargain shops. Even the best ones only cost 4-5 dollars which is peanuts compared to most aspects of running a car.

 

  • 1 year later...

I have a 70 plate SEL with “full” KESSY. Does anyone know if they have the motion sensor in the key? Not sure how to find out or when it started in the Octavia. 

On 07/10/2023 at 13:20, Neb said:

I have a 70 plate SEL with “full” KESSY. Does anyone know if they have the motion sensor in the key? Not sure how to find out or when it started in the Octavia. 

 

Get the fob close enough to the car that the red "active" LED on it starts flashing, then put it down. If the LED stops flashing after a minute or so, it has a motion sensor.

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