Literally this is my issue but mine is a sportline 1.5. the car has done around 10500 miles now and I got the car with only 450 miles on it. I know how I drive and I know I haven't got any pot holes so I'm in the same boat. I'm getting new tyres on the front next week (Hankook) and I'll be getting the tracking checked as well

4 hours ago, Colin170CR said:

Further to my post earlier in this thread, here's a pic of my wife's 1.5 Edition 4 x 4 front left tyre at 13,500 miles. Front right is in a similar condition. 19 inch rims.

I'm having a wheel alignment check done next week. I know I said earlier that we have a lot of roundabouts locally but this sort of wear is a bit excessive IMO.

If I were a betting man I would put money on a tracking issue which would probably have been present from the factory.

We bought the car with only 9,000 on the clock so I'm guessing the Bridgestone's are the original tyres.   

I will definitely switch the fronts to the back as well to try & eek a few more miles out of these.  

The clue is in the photo, not the rubber, but the light coloured specs which appear to be some sort of sharp abrasive stone.

 

Unfortunately there are certain councils whose idea of road surfacing is to spray tar and then put tiny non-slip chippings on top.  Fine on straight roads to protect crossings where vehicles might skid when braking, but not a great idea to protect tyre life (as it isn’t their concern).

 

I think it has been said before that if you use summer tyres below about +5c (ie most mornings Nov-March) the tyres get very hard and these stones are more likely to dig in, rather than tyre flexing.  If they dig in it increases the loading on that point so more likely to scour when cornering.   The only real solution is not to use summer tyres in winter if your local roads are surfaced with these top coatings at corners and junctions.

 

 

 

There is no such thing as summer tyres, it was a term made up when they wanted to persuade people to buy M&S tyres that they rebranded "Winter tyres"

 

Road resurfacing is done in summer and not winter, tar and tarmac are not amenable to being worked in cold weather.

 

You must have very good eyes to see that the white specs are sharp abrasive stone which must have remained in the (summer) tyres since driving on them last winter when certain councils resurfaced their roads contrary to any other local authority, it couldn't be that Colin has a limestone gravel drive now could it?

15 hours ago, J.R. said:

There is no such thing as summer tyres, it was a term made up when they wanted to persuade people to buy M&S tyres that they rebranded "Winter tyres"

 

Road resurfacing is done in summer and not winter, tar and tarmac are not amenable to being worked in cold weather.

 

You must have very good eyes to see that the white specs are sharp abrasive stone which must have remained in the (summer) tyres since driving on them last winter when certain councils resurfaced their roads contrary to any other local authority, it couldn't be that Colin has a limestone gravel drive now could it?

No limestone gravel drive here. Actually we have relatively new tarmac on our drive which I repainted earlier this year with Tarmaseal so it's looking pretty smart.

The grit you see on the tyre is from the road & path outside our house which is sun bleached Tarmac but it is failing so the surface is starting to break up. It's not the cause of the tyre wear. 

Tracking visit on Tuesday should reveal the reason I think. 

 

Road resurfacing and repairs in Scotland might well be done in Spring, Summer & Autumn and even Winter on fine days or where the road crew want away someplace nice.  Often it is done at the height of the tourist season and can causes maximum inconvenience, but then that is when the weather is nicest.

 

The surface applied in many places is the one to suit the location and the weather or worst weather for that road or area. Winter, not a trunk route, and prone to snow, ice, flooding etc.  

 

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There are tyres that can be crap even in Summer time wet weather let alone wet cold weather. Or just cold weather / roads.

 

What there are is OEM tyres as fitted and for any World Region and 'All Season Tyres', 

as in 365 days a year.

'Low rolling resistance tyres' are listed on some Skoda Models on some wheel sizes. ie Scala & Kamiq.

More often now all Skoda are on ECO tyres, SUMMER TYRES.

even when fitted to SUV's, EV's. Part or Full time 4x4's AWD's.

(Skoda sometimes have in a Brochure that cars have All Season Tyres, ie summer tyres, then offer 'All Seasons' as an Option, they mean 'All Weather / All Season'. eg suitable for winter.)

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/423163-are-all-weathertyres-winter-legal-in-eu

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/440953-factory-fit-all-season-tyres

 

Different when 'All Season' is used to mean 'All Weather'  which might be Summer bias & Winter Certificated. eg CrossClimates, + or 2 or whatever. 

Then we have Wet Weather Tyres, All-Terrain, Winter Tyres, Studded or not, we have all sort of term used around the globe.

 

As to M+S Marking or 3 Peak M+S and 3PMSF then @Carlstoncan give you chapter and verse.

 

 

Edited 28 August, 20223 yr by roottoot

My recently traded 2L AWD TDI Karoq came to us 4yrs old and only 16k miles....the salesman boasted that it even came on new tyres..... Why ?

 

That caused a minor concern, 225/45/19 wheels wouldn't have been my choice, nor the Sumitomo summer tyres.

I'd traded a very reliable Octavia Scout 184bhp that I'd had Falken all weather rubber fitted to, which I found to be exemplary in all weather including snow...remembering of course this was not an ' off roader'   (Countless thousands of miles in Landrovers, usually open to the elements,  snow - sand - mud had taught me that the vehicle must be combined with driver expertise to make progress)...Early days/nights digging/towing soon sorted the men from the boys, AND could be expensive...(Usual fee came in the form of Alcohol...)

The last time that I was towed clear was in the Kalahari in Namibia 3 years ago, showing off my driving skills to my wife..

(I probably could have lowered all tyre pressures for greater traction,  but whilst I had 2 spare wheels - I'd  forgotten a foot pump..!)

 

The cunning, but sly local who towed me free probably felt he was taking 'Whitey' to the cleaners by charging the equivalent of $5.

 

So, my question,  are any 2L TDI AWD owners satisfied with their tyres?

 

W11A

Salisbury Plain Recreation Area.

I got 28,000 miles out of my original tyres  and changed them a bit early to have new ones for winter. That was last year, now have Falken on my 4x4 TDi Karoq.

I will get would have got, all weather tyres next time round but just remembered that I scored a second set of winter rims with nearly new and recent tyres, the old ones were downright dangerous on anything but snow.

 

I am astonished that I have done 30K miles in a Yeti 4x4 on tyres that were not new when I got the vehicle and unless one gets damaged they will do another 20K, if you can avoid uneven wear and especially edge scrubbing while the tyre wears from 8mm to 4mm tread then the remaining 4mm (which is actually only 2.6mm before the legal limit) will last a lot longer than the preceeding mileage.

 

I would go further and say that how the vehicle is driven for the first 1000 miles are critical to the longevity of the tyre, when the tread blocks are deep it is so easy to scrub out a new tyre.

 

Cars that race in Production series having to use road legal control tyres will have them scrubbed (machined down by specialists) before fitting, the top teams will use one new set of scrubbed tyres on the practice/set up session and another set for the race.

 

I have seen people decide to use new unscrubbed tyres for a test day with the intention of scrubbing them on the circuit, the logic being that they would wear exactly to the individual suspension set up, they set off with the correct tyre pressures and had lost the complete edge of the tyre right through to the canvas exactly like the photographs we are seeing on this forum after the very first session, elsewhere the tyres still had the full 8mm tread and had barely worn off the mould sprues.

 

I think the way some of these cars are driven is the reason for the tyre damage in many cases, it's understandable that someone would think I have new tyres so I can give it the full beans but not the right thinking for longevity.

Edited 28 August, 20223 yr by J.R.

I'm interested to learn which tyres 'Gomezz' & 'J.R.' are writing about... ?

Or any other tyres that 4x4 Caroq drivers have found favourable for use throughout the season.

 

It's noticeable from watching many other road users, to see just how inefficient many drivers are with scant regard for their tyres, fuel consumption or even their vehicles...

Perhaps if some of today's drivers had  'bangers' as first vehicles and had to maintain these themselves we would have more appreciative road users...? Thankfully,  most driver's first vehicle is fairly modern, AND SAFE, but somehow something seems to get lost...?

 

W11A

Salisbury Plain Recreation Area.

J.R., interesting what you say in the 3rd paragraph, particularly as I'll be getting new tyres soon.

 

Could you say more about driving for the 1st 1000 miles in order to maximize tyre life, (gently maybe and not cornering or braking too fiercly + avoiding spinning the wheels - easily done with a DSG starting from standstill, even with a 1.0 engine).  I'm certainly not into that performance stuff, scrubbed tyres etc.

 

I'm coming up to 19,000miles after just over 3 years on the original Turanzas on 17" wheels and they've 5mm tread left, having swapped front with rear tyres over a year ago, so I suppose they could last quite a few thousand miles yet, but nevertheless I shall be fitting all weather tyres, hopefully before Xmas.

Lots of us might call new tyres Green.  Fresh.  They need run in and the newness off them.  Like new cars brakes, engines, gearboxes,suspension.   Those demonstrators getting 3,000 miles in 3 months on them to be sold as Ex management cars and fleet cars and lease cars might be driven hard from day one.  Some might not suffer and some do.     I believe in running in new tyres for a few hundred miles, as I do running in brake pads and discs. 

Edited 29 August, 20223 yr by roottoot

On 28/08/2022 at 18:36, w11a said:

Falken

 

On 28/08/2022 at 18:36, w11a said:

Sumitomo

 FYI.  SRI ( Sumitomo Rubber Indistries ) make Falken Tyres.

 

 

Thanks, AG Falco

On 28/08/2022 at 10:01, Colin170CR said:

No limestone gravel drive here. Actually we have relatively new tarmac on our drive which I repainted earlier this year with Tarmaseal so it's looking pretty smart.

The grit you see on the tyre is from the road & path outside our house which is sun bleached Tarmac but it is failing so the surface is starting to break up. It's not the cause of the tyre wear. 

Tracking visit on Tuesday should reveal the reason I think. 

 

Well the plot deepens.

I had the tracking done this morning at the local Kwik Fit & sure enough the left front was out of wack - but only a little bit. It got adjusted. 

 

I think the tyre wear issue on my wife's Karoq can only be down to

1. the local "MK roundabout factor" (apparently we have 130 of them)
2. not enough longer journeys on straight roads
3. driving style - it's my wife's car🤔

I'll swap the front & rear wheels to even up the tyre wear & keep an eye on the fronts. Don't know what else I can do really.  

Interestingly I do not get this problem on my Superb tyres.    

 

22 minutes ago, Colin170CR said:

I do not get this problem on my Superb tyres.

Of course the Superb is a proper car and not a Suburban Useless Vehicle.

 225/45/19 Tyre pressure  ?

 

New to my Karoq 2.0I TDI 4x4 I remain confused regarding the most suitable tyres pressure...

The Extra Load tyres state that the max t.p. is 50 lbs/inch...which doesn't help at all, the fuel cap card states 

2.4/ 35 lbs/inch...

Do drivers of the 2.0l TDI 4x4 have a preferred setting for this  Sumitomo tyre..?

 

F.A.O AG Falco S.R.I also produce Goodyear & Dunlop tyres for some markets in addition to  Dunlop - Slazenger sports goods, quite a resourceful company...certainly one of the 'Big Boys'

On 30/08/2022 at 11:26, Colin170CR said:

Well the plot deepens.

I had the tracking done this morning at the local Kwik Fit & sure enough the left front was out of wack - but only a little bit. It got adjusted. 

 

I think the tyre wear issue on my wife's Karoq can only be down to

1. the local "MK roundabout factor" (apparently we have 130 of them)
2. not enough longer journeys on straight roads
3. driving style - it's my wife's car🤔

I'll swap the front & rear wheels to even up the tyre wear & keep an eye on the fronts. Don't know what else I can do really.  

Interestingly I do not get this problem on my Superb tyres.    

 

I had my wheel alignment done about a week ago, the garage that did it said there was nothing really to worry about, it needed a slight adjustment only and not enough to cause tyre wear. 

last sunday I removed all the wheel (one by one, I was bored) washed them well from both sides, checked the pads etc, anyway, front wheels do not seem as much worn from outside as I thought but it still means they need to changed with new tyres which I already bought but I am waiting for another 2-off (ordered 2 and 2) to arrive so I can swap them over.

As someone said - may be the car was driven hard the first 1000 miles or so or all 5.5k miles before I bought it.