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When we first got the car (as an ex demonstrator) and for the first 4 ish years we would always go to the shell garage as someone once said their fuel was ‘better’.

 

a few years ago we changed our mind and started using Asda cheapest 

 

8 months ago we (kind of) accidentally almost run out of fuel (3 miles till empty)

 

as the problem is looking like a fuel issue I wonder if I’ve saved a pound just to spend 100’s

 

£130 is not too bad when an electric equivalent to out car is £56k! (And we have already spent a fair bit recently too)

 

I might get a horse instead 

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Got mine with 112k miles on it for £9,500 – spent about £600 so far on rear brake pads and discs and wheel bearings.

Upgraded the in-car/audio/screen (bigger screen, CarPlay – thanks PAB567). Got some winter tyres and steel wheels.
 

Intend to drive it 'til the government says I can't. Terraclean (etc) is all part of the process and (personally)
I'll always opt for 'my car, owned and operated' over any lease (must look after it T&C's) option. And never new.

Back on topic… diagnostics info on surge/slow etc when I get it. Thanks.

 

Just a thought, and unfortunately it's a PITA to track down, but I wonder if you could have a poor electrical connection somewhere?

I had a problem with a Seat diesel some moons ago, and it turned out to be a poor crimp on a connector that would lose briefly contact over some bumps and cause a drop in power.

(I remember it as related to the throttle: When you lift off it detects no throttle input and shuts off the fuel, and this fault was thinking the driver had lifted off the throttle and shut off the fuel, albeit briefly.)

It took flipping ages to track down as it was an intermittent problem and of course in garage conditions it never played up.

Thanks, my issue wasn't bumps, happened on smoothest roads. And the cleaning seems to have sorted it…

 

…but loose wires and crap battery and dodgy readings and crap sensors and f*cked ECU etc etc were all in the mix at one point :0)

 

I'm waiting on report (and opinion) from garage but hopefully I might be getting somewhere.

  • 2 weeks later...

Hi John

 

how are you getting on?

 

I put a second ‘pour in’ cleaning thing in and the problem is back (if it ever really went?)

 

not sure what to do next

 

thanks

 

graham

 

Graham

 

First up, not John please, my dead mum will be turning in her grave. Or jon come to that. It's Jonathan please, but many people call me Biff (as in Viz comic). Thanks. 

 

Sorry, pedant!. Car – it's better than it was after the Terraclean but I think it's still 'doing it' a little. I've attached the before and after VCDS reports if anyone wants to take a look. Not super studied them myself yet.

I think the clean has helped but still think a sensor or the computer is struggling with dud readings and or 'not smart' processing. Not done a long journey to see if mpg has improved.

I think it's driving better for the Terraclean and driven hard it's a hoot but 'urban trundling' still annoyingly niggled. Having said that didn't seem to do it much at all on a 5 mile trip this morning.

 

Not given up on 'completely solving it' but also it's ok to drive as it is.

 

Thanks

Jonathan/Biff   :O)

 

 

BIFF_SKODA_SCOUT_BEFORE_LOG.txt BIFF_SKODA_SCOUT_AFTER_LOG.txt

  • 4 weeks later...

Update – still a little 'oddness' with power delivery at low rev's.
I'm going to read those data reports throughly.

 

Any other suggestions anyone? Thanks.

  • 5 months later...

@GrahamSkinner  

Sorry it's been so long since I posted on this topic. I've had my rear diff fixed (and coupling replaced). Sorted that but still the surging/lurching at 17,000 revs in third (etc). Diplocks Injectors in Hailsham took it for a drive, he felt the car behaving oddly at numerous gear/rev combos. I'm now going to paraphrase his words to me (but he knows his stuff and any inaccuracies here are mine)… “Skoda… could be the injectors, could be the EGR valve (not calibrated correctly slightly too open too closed at various points), or something else really not possible to discover what’s going on with that car and it ain’t a problem so all okay to stick with it. You could map out the EGR (!) but ultimately it’s fine if it is not a problem. You could spend hours and hundreds of pounds looking for it but if you test the injectors out of the car you won't get the same situation, and EGR is a b*st*rd to get to to replace/test. There might have been a recall / software update but you'll only know that if you go to a Skoda dealer”  I summarise. The man knows his stuff, was lovely to talk to and wouldn't take payment (but beer and biscuits will be delivered next week)

 

…so, I've booked a £99 diagnostics with Skoda as last port of call before I just live with it (or get it mapped and see if that sorts it!). Skoda will connect to VAG Mothership (motherboard) and that will show if any tech. solution/recall/update.

17 minutes ago, captain uncertain said:

@GrahamSkinner  

Sorry it's been so long since I posted on this topic. I've had my rear diff fixed (and coupling replaced). Sorted that but still the surging/lurching at 17,000 revs in third (etc). Diplocks Injectors in Hailsham took it for a drive, he felt the car behaving oddly at numerous gear/rev combos. I'm now going to paraphrase his words to me (but he knows his stuff and any inaccuracies here are mine)… “Skoda… could be the injectors, could be the EGR valve (not calibrated correctly slightly too open too closed at various points), or something else really not possible to discover what’s going on with that car and it ain’t a problem so all okay to stick with it. You could map out the EGR (!) but ultimately it’s fine if it is not a problem. You could spend hours and hundreds of pounds looking for it but if you test the injectors out of the car you won't get the same situation, and EGR is a b*st*rd to get to to replace/test. There might have been a recall / software update but you'll only know that if you go to a Skoda dealer”  I summarise. The man knows his stuff, was lovely to talk to and wouldn't take payment (but beer and biscuits will be delivered next week)

 

…so, I've booked a £99 diagnostics with Skoda as last port of call before I just live with it (or get it mapped and see if that sorts it!). Skoda will connect to VAG Mothership (motherboard) and that will show if any tech. solution/recall/update.

I really hope that 17,000 rpm is a typo 🤔

I've had it souped up – proper Campbell!

Yes, sorry, typo 1700   :Op

  • 3 weeks later...

 

@GrahamSkinner     Update for anyone who's interested. Might (!) have got somewhere. Yesterday was Skoda dealer diagnostics. Birchwood in Eastbourne. Impressed with the service I got (particularly Harrison in the service dept. and Chris and Michael who carried out the work). They checked the whole car over (I got a funky video with tyre, pads, etc etc checks) but crucially connected it to Skoda HQ mothership. They updated the engine management software (see attached, might be relevant) and so far (driving the car back from the garage and again this morning) I can't get it to misbehave. No oddness at 1700 revs in third. Smooth at urban cruising speeds. Feels good. Might well be fixed, £99 well spent :O)

Any relapses and I'll report back.

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We got SWMBOs Fabia from there, we were impressed with their sales team.

  • 1 month later...

Hi there, just wondering if this issue has been sorted for you. My 2014 is doing the same. 😢 

12 hours ago, The_Bomber said:

Hi there, just wondering if this issue has been sorted for you. My 2014 is doing the same. 😢 

 

I do believe the software update (or whatever Skoda dealer calls it) has sorted it. Driven 2000 miles since (and some very enjoyable driving in the west of Scotland) and not had 'it' happen once. It's going well. Didn't miss a beat. So, I'd suggest you book it in for £99 diagnostics at your Skoda dealer and have them report back. As well as the update I got the enitre car checked over, video underside etc, treatment. Money well spent.

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Ya I might just do that, although I have a dpf and egr delete and a power map so I don’t know what the ŠKODA diagnostics will make of that. I might be mad but I have noticed very recently that “it” doesn’t happen while I have the engine “start/stop” button in the off setting. I was thinking it may have something to do with a fault/failure with the anti shudder valve and that’s why it wasn’t showing a fault. 
 

some lovely scenery there. Very nice 

 

Power map and DPF/EGR delete – well beyond my car knowledge, and the "start/stop" button come to that.
Wish you all the best – hope you get it sorted.

  • 8 months later...

 

On 12/11/2023 at 09:43, captain uncertain said:

 

I do believe the software update (or whatever Skoda dealer calls it) has sorted it. Driven 2000 miles since (and some very enjoyable driving in the west of Scotland) and not had 'it' happen once. It's going well. Didn't miss a beat. So, I'd suggest you book it in for £99 diagnostics at your Skoda dealer and have them report back. As well as the update I got the enitre car checked over, video underside etc, treatment. Money well spent.

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Just bought a 2014 Octavia Estate VRS with 99k on the clock 

I'm experiencing this exact issue.

I've seen you posted in Nov 2023 

I'm just wondering wheather the problem returned or the skoda diagnostic sorted it? 

Many thanks in advance.

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31 minutes ago, JoshML1993 said:

 

 

Just bought a 2014 Octavia Estate VRS with 99k on the clock 

I'm experiencing this exact issue.

I've seen you posted in Nov 2023 

I'm just wondering wheather the problem returned or the skoda diagnostic sorted it? 

Many thanks in advance.


I know you didn’t reply to me, but as the original poster of the issue. I have had both ecu updated (twice) and a dpf, EGR deleted and the problem still persists, I have now resorted to replacing sensors to see if that fixes it. 

To be honest it had sorted it but I’ve a feeling it's back. But it’s not a 'big thing' – a slight change in engine engagement (that doesn't describe it very well) and it doesn't affect my driving. If I'm 'pressing on' it's not an issue. Just an oddness around town when about 1500 revs. Wondering if it has reappeared as I had the 'injection rail' worked on (there are two things? one each end? had them replaced – I think)  and upset all the sensors and computer bits?! It certainly was fixed by the updates but having reappeared I'm not going to chase a solution as just glad the car is delivering (and there's a stone chip in the windscreen to watch and save for – new screen £285 plus vat!). I got 38mpg towing my track Panda 100HP on a trailer from Eastbourne to Bedford and Cadwell and back it was great so I'm loving it. 

6 minutes ago, Cooper1275 said:


I know you didn’t reply to me, but as the original poster of the issue. I have had both ecu updated (twice) and a dpf, EGR deleted and the problem still persists, I have now resorted to replacing sensors to see if that fixes it. 

 

3 minutes ago, captain uncertain said:

To be honest it had sorted it but I’ve a feeling it's back. But it’s not a 'big thing' – a slight change in engine engagement (that doesn't describe it very well) and it doesn't affect my driving. If I'm 'pressing on' it's not an issue. Just an oddness around town when about 1500 revs. Wondering if it has reappeared as I had the 'injection rail' worked on (there are two things? one each end? had them replaced – I think)  and upset all the sensors and computer bits?! It certainly was fixed by the updates but having reappeared I'm not going to chase a solution as just glad the car is delivering (and there's a stone chip in the windscreen to watch and save for – new screen £285 plus vat!). I got 38mpg towing my track Panda 100HP on a trailer from Eastbourne to Bedford and Cadwell and back it was great so I'm loving it. 

Thanks for both getting back to me.

It's appreciated

Please keep me updated if you find a faulty sensor.

I've contacted Skoda technical and asked them to contact me regarding the issue.

I'll keep you posted on their response.

Just had a OEM fuel filter installed and added Millers Oil Injector Cleaner to a full tank along with the cam belt and water pump done at the same time.

The garage reported to me that the timing was one tooth out.

Normally it would do the sudden loss of power (as if someone is pressing the brake pedal hard) 3 times in a row.

Kind of jolting the car forward.

Since the work at the garage about a week a go it did a very slight jolt.

No where near as bad. Barely noticeable so unsure whether the above had resolved it or not.

Just out of curiosity does it sometimes take 3 or 4 seconds for the car to start?

This only seems to happen over night.

Earlier on this thread someone did mention a bad battery could be the issue.

Have you replaced the battery?

Many thanks 

Josh

Oddly the car is sometimes hesitating on starting, just a few seconds, first time from cold. Not checked the battery condition (but I'll ask next time it's at Bourne Motors – Bob and Andrew and Steve love my visits!). Never had it as bad as your “Normally it would do the sudden loss of power (as if someone is pressing the brake pedal hard) 3 times in a row. Kind of jolting the car forward.” …that sounds unsettling. If I was worried the car was going to let me down and endanger lives I'd certainly want it sorted. Hope you resolve it. My situation is just (currently) annoying.

36 minutes ago, captain uncertain said:

Oddly the car is sometimes hesitating on starting, just a few seconds, first time from cold. Not checked the battery condition (but I'll ask next time it's at Bourne Motors – Bob and Andrew and Steve love my visits!). Never had it as bad as your “Normally it would do the sudden loss of power (as if someone is pressing the brake pedal hard) 3 times in a row. Kind of jolting the car forward.” …that sounds unsettling. If I was worried the car was going to let me down and endanger lives I'd certainly want it sorted. Hope you resolve it. My situation is just (currently) annoying.

 

I've just checked the battery status

 

FYI 

Get in car 

Close all doors

Start engine 

Leave for 5 / 10 seconds

Turn engine off 

Press and hold 0.0/Set button 

(You trip mileage comes back so not to worry about it resetting)

Release when battery shows

 

Apologies if im teaching you to suck eggs 

Mine seems okay at 70% but that was after a 20 min ride back from work on dual carriage ways.

I may invest in a new battery especially before the winter months come along.

I'll wait for a reply from Skoda and see what they have to say first

Cheers 

Josh

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Didn't know that. Useful. Thanks… I’m at 70% (and so’s my battery :O)

11 hours ago, JoshML1993 said:

I've just checked the battery status

 

FYI 

Get in car 

Close all doors

Start engine 

Leave for 5 / 10 seconds

Turn engine off 

Press and hold 0.0/Set button 

(You trip mileage comes back so not to worry about it resetting)

Release when battery shows

That is really useful!

Thanks for the tip! 👍

  • 3 weeks later...

Hi,

I'm a Pete as well & new to BRISKODA.

My 2015 vrs diesel estate is having exactly the same issue: random, fleeting power drops, any speed, any gear. Sometimes 5 or 7 a day, sometimes none, with no warning lights whatsoever, even briefly. A friend's Maxicom diagnostic found nothing.

I just wondered if there had been any further revelations or theories on this topic, please?

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