I know, I seem to be getting that itchy feet syndrome with regards to new cars again. I fear the time is coming when I will replace the Boxster with something more practical and fuel efficient.

So, when out looking for cars for my brother last week we happened to visit a main skoda dealer who had a Felicia. Now in the showroom they had a pre registered Met. Black, Octy II 2.0 FSI Elegance with satnav and some other extras fitted for what I considered to be an excellent price.

What is the 2.0 FSI non turbo engine like, has anyone got one and is £14,995 a good price considering the car has a few extras on it.

Sounds like quite a good deal there + it's got all the toys too

No dont do it!! You cant get rid of that lovely Boxter!

Didn't someone with an Octy vRS post on here a while ago that they were startled by the performance of the 2.0 FSi.

Yep - Here we go

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/new-octavia/octavia-fsi-fast/52017/

Manny, just get an ex demo VRS. If you drive normally, ive seen as high as 33mpg around town, and 40+ at 70mph.

Manny, get a 140PD, got all you need, is adequately brisk.

Manny, get a 140PD, got all you need, is adequately brisk.

There might be a quite well specced Black one for sale soon if last nights Leather Bottle meet was anything to go by :P

How did the meet go, and re the black PD140, how old?

I've got a June 2005 2.0FSI Hatch Elegance from new, done 8000 miles. I love it! Only gripe is if well loaded and on a hill, you need to stir the gearbox because torque is much lower than diesel [about 148 against 250 something I think].

But because it is a nice gearbox, it is easy to drop into 3rd or 4th and keep it moving!!

If you like to drive by keeping the revs up, it seems to be more powerful than quoted [and I had a 180 bhp Mk 1 vRS before.] Once the revs are up in the low gears it is accelerating like a rocket.

But when you are already cruising fast, on M-way for example, it responds beautifully all the time - I'm surprised I still have a clean licence [now that's tempting fate!!]

Mine is exactly standard except for the extra mudflaps.

I drove the 2.0FSI in an A3, and I thought it was a great engine. Really very drivable, nice and torquey but still enjoys the revs. Its a very capable engine, and I think far superior to the 1.8T 150bhp engine in smoothness, economy and refinement... oh, and power too. For me, with the difference in price, the PD140 doesnt really make sense unless you do silly high miles or do lots of heavy load lugging.

I think far superior to the 1.8T 150bhp engine in smoothness, economy and refinement... oh, and power too. For me, with the difference in price, the PD140 doesnt really make sense unless you do silly high miles or do lots of heavy load lugging.

A quick question....how is the 150bhp 2.0FSI engine more powerful than the 150bhp 1.8T engine?

How did the meet go, and re the black PD140, how old?

Yeah we had a good natter, some nice food and then a bit more nattering :P

As for the Octy II I was being sarcastic re another member who came back from a short drive in a certain Black Octy II vRS muttering when I get back from Blackpool I'll be off down to the dealers.

A quick question....how is the 150bhp 2.0FSI engine more powerful than the 150bhp 1.8T engine?

It may have the same peak power, but I suspect develops more power across the rev range (as it doesn't rely on a turbo) so has a better power curve

Chris

Chris,

a bit like the 3.2 Litre NA engine in the Boxster, the power delivery is smooth and all power is available from idle upwards. Unlike a turbo car where you have to wait for the turbo to spin up at around 2-2.5K RPM.

Come to the dark side Manny

Yes, my Mk 1 vRS didn't wake up much below 3000

I drove the 2.0FSI in an A3, and I thought it was a great engine. Really very drivable, nice and torquey but still enjoys the revs. Its a very capable engine, and I think far superior to the 1.8T 150bhp engine in smoothness, economy and refinement... oh, and power too. For me, with the difference in price, the PD140 doesnt really make sense unless you do silly high miles or do lots of heavy load lugging.

The PD 140 is a wolf in sheeps clothing IMO. It may not have quite the same acceleration off the line or top speed of the 2.0FSI but it's a lot quicker at speed than than it and that's where it counts.

I agree that it may be false economy to buy the diesel if you dont do big miles but for me there was no contest. I would highly recommend test driving one. You'll love it.

A quick question....how is the 150bhp 2.0FSI engine more powerful than the 150bhp 1.8T engine?

Grrr - you know what I mean dammit!

The PD 140 is a wolf in sheeps clothing IMO. It may not have quite the same acceleration off the line or top speed of the 2.0FSI but it's a lot quicker at speed than than it and that's where it counts.

I agree that it may be false economy to buy the diesel if you dont do big miles but for me there was no contest. I would highly recommend test driving one. You'll love it.

I have a remapped PD130 - cant imagine being overwhelmed by the PD140 to be honest, especially in the mahoosive Octavia...

I have a remapped PD130 - cant imagine being overwhelmed by the PD140 to be honest, especially in the mahoosive Octavia...

It's the peaky torque curve and the 16v engine that make the difference. Obviously you have to drive it right to make the most of it too. Also there's lots of reports now of unmodified PD140's acheiving 160bhp on rolling road tests.

Of course the OctyII PD140 isn't a match for a re-mapped PD130 Furby but interestingly the 0-60 for the OctyII PD140 is only 0.1 seconds slower than the standard Furby vRS.

There's only a 7% difference in the power between the 2 engines but 14% difference in the weight of the cars (subject to options) so you would expect the 0-60 of the Furby to be much better than the Octy but surprisingly it isn't. To my mind this all points back to the PD140 engine either having significantly more power than the PD130 or the Octy just being able to get the power down onto the road better.

Interesting reading everyone. Now I cant make up my mind. Keep current car, or buy an octy II, and with what engine. I will want the elegance trim at least, and may consider an RS although I havent driven one to see what the new one is like yet.

Also there's lots of reports now of unmodified PD140's acheiving 160bhp on rolling road tests.

There's lots of reports of unmodified cars putting out more bhp than they should on rolling roads, it doesn't make it accurate Go and have a read of the Mondeo forums - they're all convinced their unmodified 130bhp TDCI's are putting out 150-160bhp too

Chris

Keep current car, or buy an octy II

Well now theres a difficult choice

Porsche Boxster or Skoda? Hmm that'll take some thinking about

There's lots of reports of unmodified cars putting out more bhp than they should on rolling roads' date=' it doesn't make it accurate Go and have a read of the Mondeo forums - they're all convinced their unmodified 130bhp TDCI's are putting out 150-160bhp too

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Fair point but regardless of whether or not these engines have more power than on paper, I think my argument still stands.