Received a quote today for Cambelts and water pump belt kit, fitted. £583. Looks like I will have to risk going without replacing them.

Could you and the Son in Law not do it?

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Is here any record of it being done ever?

It was done 43,000 miles and ten years ago by a main dealer.

Unfortunately my son-in-law now lives 45 miles away and isn't keeping too well but I don't doubt he could do it, he may have already done it on one or other of the SEATs he has owned.

If this is the BKW engine then you just need to keep an eye on the belt condition and watch out for any oil contamination, it's EXTREMELY unlikely to give any trouble.

The VIN decoder says: Engine Code                                        BXW

 

I texted my son-in-law this evening and he says he will price the parts so obviously he is willing to do it.

I suggested we delay until the better weather then do an inspection. Going by "it's EXTREMELY unlikely to give any trouble." I think that is probably the best bet.

Who knows, it may have been changed last summer!

Haynes manual says: Skoda specify timing belt inspection after the first 55 000 miles and then every 20 000 miles, but does not have a renewal interval time. However, if the car is used mainly for short journeys, we recommend that the timing belt be renewed at 55 000 miles when the first Inspection takes place.

It is only 43,000 miles since it was last changed by a main dealer and it will be four years before I put another 12,000 miles on it.

1 hour ago, Jocko said:

It is only 43,000 miles since it was last changed by a main dealer and it will be four years before I put another 12,000 miles on it.

 

Then you REALLY don't need to worry about it at all.

 

1 hour ago, Jocko said:

The VIN decoder says: Engine Code                                        BXW

 

I meant BXW, not BKW, the 1.4 16V engine.

Hi there, I would like to say a word about this as I changed the belt kit on my brother's 57 plate bxw engine fabia about 6 months ago, it had been 7 years and 40k miles since it was last changed. Whilst I agree the timing belt itself is good for a long time, they were still in very good condition on my brother's car, one of the tensioners had failed, the water pump was leaking badly and the idler was rough. It was very lucky the timing had not jumped. Maybe this was an isolated case and I'm not a mechanic or engineer but it appears the tensioner, water pump and idlers fail before the belt, ending with the same consequence of a damaged engine.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My son-in-law has just come back to me with a price of £350 to do the job, which is closer to what I had in mind. I have suggested we do an inspection before starting any work.

47 minutes ago, fabia88 said:

Hi there, I would like to say a word about this as I changed the belt kit on my brother's 57 plate bxw engine fabia about 6 months ago, it had been 7 years and 40k miles since it was last changed. Whilst I agree the timing belt itself is good for a long time, they were still in very good condition on my brother's car, one of the tensioners had failed, the water pump was leaking badly and the idler was rough. It was very lucky the timing had not jumped. Maybe this was an isolated case and I'm not a mechanic or engineer but it appears the tensioner, water pump and idlers fail before the belt, ending with the same consequence of a damaged engine.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do you know what total mileage the car had done? Mine has just under 70K on the clock.

Just out of interest, was that £583  Skoda dealership price or the VW Group Indie's price?

 

Every time that I got the belts etc changed on a BBY or latterly a BXW engine, I was aiming to save suffering from idler and/or tensioner failure wrecking things, and changing the water pump at every other belt change - just to play safe for a car that was being used every day for commuting to/from work and leisure/shopping.

2 hours ago, rum4mo said:

Just out of interest, was that £583  Skoda dealership price or the VW Group Indie's price?

AVW.

10 minutes ago, Jocko said:

AVW.

Oh!

 

So I wonder what the main dealerships are charging for this work, okay it will be viewable on their "menus".

 

I had thought that that price would have been what they charged for the same job on the EA211 engines, wrong again!

3 hours ago, Jocko said:

Do you know what total mileage the car had done? Mine has just under 70K on the clock.

The car had 98k miles when I changed the belt and pump, it was previously done in 2015 at 55k miles

Just been quoted £550 at local main dealer. I will have to do it though as some years ago we had a couple of Alfa Romeos and both self destructed within a week of each other and the belts were only half way through the recommended interval. The damage was catastrophic. Painful but, for me, not worth the risk. Does bug me that my Land Rover (Ford/ Peugeot) diesel was spec’s for 10 years or 100,000 miles.

 

I did have an issue with Skoda some years ago (was posted at time) when I bought my Yeti in 2013 and then they said every 3 years. I worked with a German office and we checked their local dealer and at that time Germany was 5 years so I complained that the UK was being taken for mugs - they replied that it was being increased to 4 years and it subsequently changed to the current 5 years.

@Grumpy Geaser

Is that Henrys quoting that. 

The 1.0 TSI is not difficult but needs the tool and care taken as with anything.   

Those with 1.5 TSI ACT as now available in the Mk4 Fabia are getting a shock at the cost of the Cam belt change.  As can be seen in the Karoq and Mk3 Octavia sections where there are members with 5 year old cars.

Hi I’ve just been quoted £505 for cam belt change at 65000 mls /5 yes old 

No water pump included

@Chic  Welcome.

 

Is that on a Mk3 1.0 TSI Fabia?    More expensive than the Fabia Mk2 / Euro 5 engines.

A cam belt that needs done by someone with the gear and more than ideas.  There are those that have already had issues with people not doing 1.0 TSI,s correctly.

Check the Mk3 section.

 

one thread, there are others.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/511272-engine-vibration-after-cambelt-change-10-tsi-110-3-cylinder-dsg-2018-fabia-mk3

 

Not as involved as the 1.4 TSI ACT or a 1.5 TSI ACT that people are paying in the region of £800-£1,000 to have done & even being quoted higher than that.

Just the not expensive locking tools required with 1.0tsi,s & lots less labour than with a 1.5 TSI ACT.

 

Edited 16 June, 20232 yr by toot

Hi there thanks for the info

yes it is the MK 111 

Could not get an Independent garage to touch it because it requires a “ computerised “ timing set up

Does this sound about right ?

There are plenty Independents & Service Centres that can do them & know about 1.0 TSI VW Group engines, no need for Computerised timing set up or a big deal.

But they do need to know the job.

 

They might have OE parts or others in the price difference.

 

Main Dealers technicians or fitters have been messing up the job.

Service Desk staff often do not know the difference with a 1.0 TSI from a 1.2 or 1.4 or 1.4 TSI ACT or a 1.5 TSI or 1.5 TSI ACT.

 

You have 2 years parts and labour warranty with Main Dealers.

 

https://www.pscautocentre.co.uk/products/audi-timing-belt-water-pump-replacement-petrol-engines-mqb-platform

 

 

 

Edited 16 June, 20232 yr by toot

27 minutes ago, Chic said:

Hi there thanks for the info

yes it is the MK 111 

Could not get an Independent garage to touch it because it requires a “ computerised “ timing set up

Does this sound about right ?

 

No, it just means they won't touch it because they don't have the tools or the talent.

On 16/06/2023 at 09:04, toot said:

@Chic  Welcome.

 

Is that on a Mk3 1.0 TSI Fabia?    More expensive than the Fabia Mk2 / Euro 5 engines.

A cam belt that needs done by someone with the gear and more than ideas.  There are those that have already had issues with people not doing 1.0 TSI,s correctly.

Check the Mk3 section.

 

one thread, there are others.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/511272-engine-vibration-after-cambelt-change-10-tsi-110-3-cylinder-dsg-2018-fabia-mk3

 

Not as involved as the 1.4 TSI ACT or a 1.5 TSI ACT that people are paying in the region of £800-£1,000 to have done & even being quoted higher than that.

Just the not expensive locking tools required with 1.0tsi,s & lots less labour than with a 1.5 TSI ACT.

 

 

 

£800 ++++ for a cambelt................

 

do you bend over at the service desk and they insert a long pole as well !!!

 

That is just ridiculous...........

They as in Main Dealers are saying 6.5 hours for a 1.5 TSI ACT and quoting over £1,100 in some cases.

There are Service desk staff saying £550 but then they have no idea which engine is which.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/510175-karoq-cam-belt-change-start-saving-now