Anyone else had the problem of the car locking itself whilst the keys are inside the car? It happened to me when filling up with petrol leaving me stranded. I don’t leave the keys in now but occasionally the car will lock itself without any input from me (kessy is not fitted). 

Security feature, many cars lock themselves if all doors are closed about minute after unlocking

 

Go into infotainment, car, then settings, scroll down to convenience features and locking and see how you have it set up, can change somethings by ticking and unticking boxes.    I don't know what options you have enabled.

 

 

14 hours ago, SurreyJohn said:

Security feature, many cars lock themselves if all doors are closed about minute after unlocking

Sure, many cars have that option - as a protection to accidental unlocking of the car (e.g. buttons touched while the key is in your pocket).
But how do you get the key inside the car after unlock? A door needs to be opened to get the key inside... hence the car shouldn't automatically lock in 1 minute.

1 hour ago, SkOmk4 said:

Sure, many cars have that option - as a protection to accidental unlocking of the car (e.g. buttons touched while the key is in your pocket).
But how do you get the key inside the car after unlock? A door needs to be opened to get the key inside... hence the car shouldn't automatically lock in 1 minute.

Do you have kessy? If you don't have kessy then the car has no means of knowing whether the key is inside or outside the car.

On 28/03/2023 at 03:51, JFJ said:

It happened to me when filling up with petrol leaving me stranded.

Not as stranded as getting your car nicked because you left the keys in it. 😋

Seriously though, does it lock mysteriously while you're away, or does it lock as you close the door with the keys in the car?

4 hours ago, PetrolDave said:

If you don't have kessy then the car has no means of knowing whether the key is inside or outside the car

 

Totally agree with you, but you missed the point I was making...

I'll try to clarify:

- @SurreyJohn mentioned that as a security feature, many cars lock themselves if all doors are closed about minute after unlocking. That's true, but only if none of the doors was opened during that minute. At least this is how most of the cars I drove were programmed, with or without kessy.

- assuming that you have you car locked in the parking lot: you come torards the car, unlock it, but suddenly realize you forgot something and you go away from the car, without opening any door. The car will automatically lock after ~1 minute. Could you please explain how does the key get inside the car??? (Assuming the owner is other than David Copperfield...)

- if the key is inside the car, one door was opened by the user at some point - at least to throw the key inside - and then the user left the car... In that case the car doesn't lock itself simply because a door was open, not because some fancy antenna is detecting the key/card inside the car (if we talk about cars without kessy).
 

I don’t have kessy I put fuel in but left the keys in the car and it locked itself. Recently I have had the keys in my pocket and the car has locked itself without any input from me. Just wondering if anyone else has had this problem.

The keys were on the front seat it was a pay at the pump facility 

Thanks, I was really wondering under what circumstances the car locked with the keys inside...
So basically the car behavior that you describe means that:

if you unlock the car, open the door and throw the keys inside and you close the door, the car will lock by itself after a certain amount of time?

If yes, can anyone clarify if this is a feature or if it's a bug on Octavia mk4?
 

I've heard of something similar on older Fabias, when the microswitch in the door lock goes faulty. Even though the door is unlocked and opened, the switch doesn't operate and tell the locking system that the door actually opened. This also prevents the tailgate opening until one of the other doors is opened and affects the lights warning alarm and interior courtesy light. Son's Fabia suffered this problem.

That sounds quite feasible to me. I am going to scan the car with obd11 tomorrow to see if there are any faults with the doors.

My Karok locked itself.
 I opened the  passenger door and put my  handbag containing car keys, house keys,  mobile phone etc inside. I closed the door & as I walked round to get in the drivers door the car locked itself. I had to use a friends phone to arrange an authorised break in which cost me £80. It happened again since but fortunately I had not locked my house and was able to fetch the spare key.  The car is out of warranty and the dealer I bought it from suggested changing the locks at my own expense! This forum would suggest that it is a fairly common fault in younger vehicles as well. Bring back regular door locks & keys please!
 

I know now to keep my car keys on my person. 

 

 

My 21 reg karok has also locked me out of the car fortunately while the keys were in my pocket. Strangely the wing mirrors didn't close in. It happened more frequently and the dealer also noticed it on the 2yr service. The locks were changed under warranty this week so hopefully problem solved.

I have a feeling this problem is more widespread than skoda will admit.

Mine has done this twice in the last week. Keys on passenger seat. Got out of driver's door as normal went into building came out and car has locked with keys inside. (Kessy enabled) 

2nd time I get into car drivers door and i shut the door and play with my phone for a second. And doors lock? Keys were sat on gear selector panel this time. 

Also have been getting the alarm going off randomly. 

Booked in in a few weeks for diagnostics 🙄

I have had the same problem, with my non-Kessy car.  With the car continually listening for a signal from the key fob and the key fob continually broadcasting a signal everything will be fine.  However, because the key fob is continually “on”, it’s continually running the ‘penny’ battery, which makes the car fob battery run down.  You may also find the if you’re sitting in the car with the engine off, you will occasionally get a dashboard message “Key fob not detected”, even if it’s in your pocket.  This also indicates that the key fob battery has run down and not broadcasting its presence to the car.  Even in this state, there is usually enough charge to lock/unlock the car when you press the buttons, so it appears that there’s nothing wrong with the key fob.

 

Once the engine is running this function is switched off, until you turn the engine off again.  On a couple of occasions, I have switched the engine off, got out of the car (key fob in pocket) and the car locked itself as soon as I closed the drivers door. 
 

Fitting a new key fob battery cured the problem and it’s easy to do yourself, the battery is a CR2025.  My batteries seem to last about 6 months, before the problem starts again.

On 29/05/2023 at 17:19, Gibbonm said:

Mine has done this twice in the last week. Keys on passenger seat. Got out of driver's door as normal went into building came out and car has locked with keys inside. (Kessy enabled) 

2nd time I get into car drivers door and i shut the door and play with my phone for a second. And doors lock? Keys were sat on gear selector panel this time. 

Also have been getting the alarm going off randomly. 

Booked in in a few weeks for diagnostics 🙄

my daughters 2018 scout does the same and also has random alarm going off when locked. My wifes 2019 scout started randomly locking itself with keys inside a couple of months back (less than 10k miles on clock). The main dealer who services my daughters car say that there are no fault codes, my independent has just told  me my wifes is showing fault codes B122D29 CENTRAL LOCKING SIGNAL IMPROBABLE; Points to PS control unit4.0

This also happened to me. My Karoq locked itself with my kids inside the car. We had to smash the glass to get to them, as the car key was in my handbag on the passenger seat. 
I also happen to be a journalist now looking into how widespread an issue this self-locking fault might be (our car was diagnosed as having an electrical fault, with the car doors needing to be replaced). If anyone has had a similar issue and would like to get in touch with me for the newspaper piece, I would be grateful. I am on [email protected]. Thank you

Hi, my recently widowed daughter with 2 kids (3 and 6) got locked out of their 21 plate Octavia FE SEL in the middle of Argyllshire, Scotland, by KESSY. They stranded in an adhoc layby on the Main route to Oban where heavy trucks etc passed them at speed. They got out of the car, shut doors and realised that the keys were inside, so tried to open doors within (10 seconds) and the car locked everything. AA were useless and never turned up 5 hours later, even although they were a 'Priority' case. I ended up driving from Glasgow and breaking the window to get into the car. Kids and daughter were frozen, traumatised and scared stiff by the whole ordeal as Logging and ferry trucks sped passed the within 2 m of them. That car has been OK since but if you do have to break a window to get access DO NOT break the small rear side window as it is part of the door seal and can only be supplied by SKODA factory and that takes 3 weeks. My 22 plate Octavia SEL has hiccupped a couple of times when the KESSY system refused to recognise that the key was in the car and it would not start, and on another ocassion would lock but not unlock. I heard of a case in Australia where a family were locked out of their SKODA with the keys in the car. Any similar KESSY 'lock out' stories, and what is the route cause of the car locking people out when KESSY keys are still in the car?????

Having the same problem with my octavia 2019 just randomly locking the doors, having a auto electrician look at it next week. 

My original fix of changing the batteries in the key fobs worked for a while, but then the problem worsened.  A visit to my local Skoda dealership was pretty useless as my complaint was disregarded as “can’t happen mate, never heard of it”.  However a second visit was taken more seriously when the mechanic experienced the problem himself.  They still had no clue of how to diagnose the problem, until the new Service Manager said that he had seen the same problem on VW Golf’s when he was a VW Service Manager.  The problem was the locking mechanism ECU.  It was necessary to wait for a specific Skoda technician to be available as it was a question of replacing the ECU unit and then coding new keys to match the ECU.  This was duly done and I have had no problem since (touch wood).

Hi carboy0 thanks for the reply ECU sounds expensive.!!!

I would probably leave it and just remember my keys every time but the is always that once when I have my granddaughter in the back  of the car strapped in her car seat and I just jump out of the car to get something out of the boot and it locks. Would be an absolute nightmare. Thank you again for the reply. 

I was fortunate that the car was under warranty at the time.

Yup, happened to me twice this week. Once, unfortunately with the key in the car and 80 miles from another key.

This is unacceptable and frankly dangerous potentially stranding drivers in the middle of nowhere and possibly locking small children in the car. My breakdown service managed to open a door (wouldn't say how but some sort of wedge and wire trick) I can't see any way to stop this happening again.

Owners of Karoq & Kodiaq,s have been getting Software Updates.

7 hours ago, Boost951 said:

Yup, happened to me twice this week. Once, unfortunately with the key in the car and 80 miles from another key.

This is unacceptable and frankly dangerous potentially stranding drivers in the middle of nowhere and possibly locking small children in the car. My breakdown service managed to open a door (wouldn't say how but some sort of wedge and wire trick) I can't see any way to stop this happening again.

 

You may well need a software update, but the best safeguard is to never place the key in the car, in your pocket is a lot safer.