This is the kind of nonsense you get in the media like the Express.

 

A recall of a specific Model, Mini Cooper Electrics 2020-2024.  That is cars built in the UK.

What they show though in the article are 2024 cars that are built in China and that have their own possible issue.  Brakes.

@Graham Butcher  you were dead right in the thread on EV fires about Smoke & Mirrors.  

BMW / MINI are trying to blow smoke up MINI Electric car drivers arses. 

'Honesty is the best policy'.  They will be pulled up on trying to spin this to suit themselves. 

 

Even EV sites can not be bothered to show a picture of the British Built models that are affected.

As to dealerships or MINI / BMW UK and their info on the recall.   Not fit for purpose. 

 

 

 

Edited 8 September, 20241 yr by Ootohere

@Ootoherethank you, it has been my experience that all car makers will spin things in their favour, that is never truer than when that applies to EVs as they have so many reasons to do so now. Nothing must deduct from the narrative of going electric and another is the massive fines, particularly in the UK that they face if they fail to sell their quota.

 

As to EV sites, well I have long said that they do have a vested interest and so anything negative about EVs that they post is a kin to stabbing themselves so they will not publish negatives, it's against political and their own narratives. What is required is a site that pushes the truth about electric cars, good and bad then people will be truly informed. 

I am changing my tariff with Eon Next from the fixed tariff i have till July 2025 to the EV tariff fixed for 12 months.

I only use 5-6 kWh of electricity in 24 hours when not charging the car.

 

I am home charging about 60 kWh a week on a 3 pin plug @ the 22.03 pence a kWh.  = £13.21

I can get from Midnight to 7 am about 14 kWh & also pre condition the car so under £1 a half charge of the battery.   

So  4 -5 nights offpeak charging some weeks.   (hopefully not much need to daytime charge at home.)

60 kWh x 6.9 pence. £4.14.     

 

 Gas heating will be getting turned on shortly

. Maybe the offpeak electric will make it worth at times using a efficient oil filled radiator or 2 offpeak. 

Maybe not much saving but Mony a mickle maks a muckle.

Edited 11 September, 20241 yr by Ootohere

Peak is a rather big jump from standard flat.

 

Around here with Octopus, day rate is hardly more expensive:

 

Intelligent Octopus Go

    Day unit rate:24.39 p/kWh
    Night unit rate:6.00 p/kWh
    Standing charge:47.85 p/day

 

Standard Electricity

    Unit rate:23.08 p/kWh

    Standing charge:47.85 p/day

Not a pop at you, but the inequity of those prices compared to mine - when i live just down the road from a bloody big windfarm and you live miles from any renewable cheap generation. You should pay more for your lecy than me, just down to 'transport costs'. I know Scotland feels aggrieved by this too. Your standing charge is 25% cheaper than mine!

 

Night rate (23:30 - 05:30):

7p / kWh
Day rate (05:30 - 23:30):

24.54p / kWh
Standing charge:

64.97p / day

Edited 11 September, 20241 yr by Luckypants

I used my post code and figures from Octopus tariff search page rather than my own. For some reason, their Intelligent Octopus Go is 6p on there may be a price drop is coming?  

-EDIT: actually, on the main IOG tariff page, it still says 7 p/kWh.

 

This is my current IOG tariff as it says on my account page. Same daytime but 7 p off peak.

	05:30 - 23:30     24.39p/kWh 23:30 - 05:30     7p/kWh
	But yes, I totally agree transmission cost should be higher, so I should bear higher per unit cost.  More dense grid network so lower infrastructure cost is understandable. Although yours shouldn't be vastly higher.   I'm hoping for a reform (don't like this word) of energy billing system so that more is loaded on to day unit rate and standing charge made much fairer.

Edited 11 September, 20241 yr by wyx087

Not pretty. A real elephant and not a comfy seat.  Fast but no paddles and no way to drop gears. 

 

Edited 11 September, 20241 yr by Ootohere

Just a quick review on the New Mini Countryman 1.5 Petrol Hybrid Automatic.  Drives well, goes and stops. Suspension / tyres give a very hard / crashy ride. 

 

That screen in the Middle.  What a load of sh!te IMO.   Even worse than in a NEW MINI COOPER because so far to the left compared to the smaller car.

A Flat screen that has so much small stuff on it, and for me right handed not easy to touch to make adjustment to the temperature. 

(Angled to the driver would help, but then it is there for left or right hand drive cars and probably more suited to a passenger using.)

Thank goodness for the Head Up display for the speed even though there is a huge speed showing in the middle. 

Even the physical buttons are tiny with tiny symbols.

 

The B pillar is a totally blind spot trying to look to the right at a T Junction if you sitting not just able to see directly right. 

Actually visibility to the side & rear is pretty crap and to the front left kerb, tight corners. 

 

Seat very hard and uncomfortable. 

 I usually think that people moan too much about scratching plastics as they are where you do not touch.

Well where you do not touch has the odd recycled knitted type materials and where you might touch like between the seats, arm rest, storage is scratching noisy, rattly plastic.

 

Basically not my cup of tea.  No thank you in any form, ICE or BEV.

The last Countryman was Fugly but the ones i was in were a joy compared to the one i hopefully hand back today. 

No idea of the economy as i an not wasting time looking for where it shows.

It had 1/2 a tank when i got it and i will still £10 of petrol in and that should be enough for 60 miles driven.   I did put it in GoKart Mode,  the crazy noise meant i tried taking it out just to hear again how bad that was,

Now after starting a few times i never bothered with GoKart mode and left in the default.

My MINI Electric steering wheel controls and the wheel is so much nicer than this New Countryman as are the seats which are leather in my car not Plastic.    PS. Driver profile set had thf heating automatically coming on at , 22 degrees and heated seat and steering coming on..   silent ruining on start up and move in hybrid. 

Edited 12 September, 20241 yr by Ootohere

The My MINI App for my Mini is brilliant.

Better even than the My Vauxhall one was.

 

I know the cars location in the BMW Service Compound, it is inside.

The bonnet and drivers door, drivers door window open. passengers, hatch  and sunroof closed. 

The car was last moving at 9.32 am. 

 

PS / EDIT.

10.30 all done.

Technician changed the front wheels side to side for me as i was running them in the wrong directing for grip last time i was at a Hill Climb.

Getting washed and vacuumed.  That will do until next July and it's Service / Brake Fluid change. 

Edited 12 September, 20241 yr by Ootohere

Still waiting on the car coming round to me for an hour now but that is ok.  Spoke to the Tech. He says nothing to do with the battery, no battery inspection, just a software update of the Screen, satnav etc.  Fair enough.   They have not charged it.   BUT I am looking at the car,s state of charge.   80% and 120 miles of range.   When I dropped it off it was @80% and 82 miles of range.    Later I will know if any change noticeable of any difference or significance.  

 

EDIT> PS.

 

What has happened with the Software Update is as happened with the Corsa Electric.

The New car might come with a Quesstimate with a 100% battery charge and the Battery Capacity (not the usable capacity.)  with 4.5 miles a kWh.

How they probably have them getting the WLTP figure.

 

So the 80% showing 120 miles will have been based on 4.5 miles a kWh. (Not the 3.6 was getting when i dropped the car off.)

 

that was 100% showing 105 miles and 25 miles later showing 82 miles. 

 working on  28.9 kWh usable, 3.6 miles a kWh..  that was that.

 

Coming home i do have an indicated 4.2 miles a kWh on the car.

But 25 miles later it is showing 63% / 71 miles.       

80% - 63% = 17% used for 25 miles.  The run home is more efficient for regen.  

 

  71 x 25 = 96 miles not the 120 based on 4.5 miles a kWh.  

 

But the 71 miles showing and the 50 miles return trip is 121 miles.     

I will charge to 100% tonight, see what it takes in kWh and what range shows tomorrow. 

Edited 12 September, 20241 yr by Ootohere

3 hours ago, Ootohere said:

Still waiting on the car coming round to me for an hour now but that is ok.  Spoke to the Tech. He says nothing to do with the battery, no battery inspection, just a software update of the Screen, satnav etc.  Fair enough.   They have not charged it.   BUT I am looking at the car,s state of charge.   80% and 120 miles of range.   When I dropped it off it was @80% and 82 miles of range.    Later I will know if any change noticeable of any difference or significance.  

Still sounds as if they are playing down the battery issues, but as you rightly say, you will discover if the reading is correct or not, and if you have got increased range then they have possibly tweaked the battery settings in the software update.

@Graham Butcher  I just EDITED the latest in a PS.

The software update has just made the car think it is going to be 4.5 miles a kWh.   

Like the new cars arrive thinking until actually driven and the real efficiency shows.   

WLTP was given as 140 or 145 mile, was previously 114 miles which is real world.

 

So it was showing 120 miles from 80% based on a 32.6 kWh battery is my theory. 

The usable battery is just below 29 kWh.

They might have changed the buffer, but i doubt it.      

Edited 12 September, 20241 yr by Ootohere

@Ootohere if thats the case, you'll find out pretty soon, I reckon.  

7 hours ago, Ootohere said:

I will charge to 100% tonight, see what it takes in kWh and what range shows tomorrow. 

Try to run it down lower to get a bigger data ratio so extrapolation is more accurate.

 

4 hours ago, Ootohere said:

So it was showing 120 miles from 80% based on a 32.6 kWh battery is my theory. 

The usable battery is just below 29 kWh.

They might have changed the buffer, but i doubt it.   

120 miles at 4.5 mi/kWh at 80% works out to be 33.3 kWh.

 

I think your car probably isn't part of the battery recall, otherwise they'd have done this very serious work.

It will get run down low enough several times on my next trip, the car needs charged at least every 100 miles or 2 hours or so. 

 

It probably is not one of the ones they think might be faulty. Built out of spec. AKA Faulty...

But since one day it is showing no recall when i posted, about a World Wide Recall becomes commonly known it then pops up for this recall is a coincidence.

(not). There was no UK Recall mentioned on H2o in batteries

 

What i think has been enabled is the ability for the Battery to be monitored better.   

*LIke MOTABILITY telling me that the RAC were doing the 3 month Trial and if my car needed any thing done they would be in touch.*

Funnily the TPMS Error everytime i start the car never came to their attention.  I have no Sensors in the Wheels, they offered to code them today, i said no thanks, there are no sensors...

 

The 120 miles showing on the App before the car came 100 yards was 119 miles when i got in the car, and 118 miles 50 yards later.

5 miles later it was 99 miles.

It was being plugged in that had it Guesstimating 4.5 m/kWh on 80% of 32.6 or 33.3 kWh. 

 

As it is it might have more than 30 kWh usable, because people do run them beyond empty, i have never gone below 3% and that was showing 4 miles. 

 

So right now charging it is at 79% charge and showing 90 miles.

Usually when driving and stopping to charge it would maybe at 85% and showing 90 miles.

 

12.30 am it will be full.

It was strange that it got to 4.5 m/kwh earlier and some stopping and starting and some down hill where it would usually go to 5.5 - 6 m/kWh but didn't.

Tomorrow is 1.5 miles downhill and flat and usually by the time i stop it is showing over 6 m/kWh.

 

............

As i posted back 1st March when i received this.

 

 

Edited 12 September, 20241 yr by Ootohere

'Global Recalls',  But obviously not a recall of all globally, just maybe some, or maybe not, or maybe just Trust them'.

I did not get a Letter, i got a txt to my phone, a message on the car & an Email after all.   & the DVLA site just saying Recalls on my car. Not Recall. 

 

 

 

This RECALL INFO came up just last week even though the date of the recall is earlier. 

It was not the Info that came up about my vehicles 'RECALL' but appeared the same week just checking without a reg number.

Number affected or possibly as usual on this DVSA Recall site changes. 

459 last week. 

464 this week.

Edited 12 September, 20241 yr by Ootohere

@ 100% charge this morning. 118 miles range, but car not started yet & it is 2*oC outside.

I will see in 1 hour once moving and 1.5 miles later what is shows as far as range. 

 

App shows charging started @ 61% / 67 miles.

Fully charged 100% / 118 miles.

I need to start it before it shows how many kWh charged, but it rounds it up. 

Edited 13 September, 20241 yr by Ootohere

Never take miles range as metric, it is dependent on too many variables. Always only look at % or "remaining kWh" (in the battery) if available.

 

61% to 100% is 39% charged, let's say 30 kWh net usable, that works out to be 11.7 kWh added. So my guess is that it will say 12 kWh added.

When car turned on it showed 114 miles but it is 3 degrees C now. 1.5 miles later 114 miles.  Pita I usually have it on miles not km. and have auto reset. And now I need to reset my profiles.  Phone Bluetooth off.  Loads to reset.  This was the Pita with the Corsa.  Software update. Seemed ok when leaving next day sh|t.     Mirror settings and that much else to put back as they were.  Dash displays and lights being the biggest pita. 

Edited 13 September, 20241 yr by Ootohere

The Mini is dead simple basically 1% is 1 mile at worst. Round about 3 4-3.5 miles to a kWh it averages.  Occasionally 3.6 miles to 4 miles on the right journey.  Slow roads, right ambient temp. No AC on.  Best ever A77 coast road. 4.6 miles a kWh. Average speed cameras 60;mph.    That is the WLTP figure being achieved. 

 

 

Edited 13 September, 20241 yr by Ootohere

@wyx087  phone app says 15kWh charged last night. But remember pretty cold. That will be something over 14kWh.  That was with a battery that was over 2 thirds charged though.  But then 75% to 100% is 12 kWh usually.    Signed out of app. Showing old email address.  It will take me hours or over days to spot what has been changed.     As the temp rises the predicted range will improve.  Can't get reset for today centre screen.        EDIT.  Back to before they touched it.  3.3 miles done, 109 miles indicated range. 

 

 

Edited 13 September, 20241 yr by Ootohere

Nice is the warmer morning but pretty much the usual. 

 

Edited 14 September, 20241 yr by Ootohere

The very good indicated efficiency from the weekend lasted just until the weather got lots hotter and over 15 *oC to over 20*oC.

The AC had to be on a few times.

 

My Offpeak tariff with Eon Next started today and i have had to set for the first time a charging plan on the car to start a charge at Midnight.     35 miles covered since last charge to 100% .    Showing 67% now. 61 miles range. That would be 65 without AC on. 

Edited 27 September, 20241 yr by Ootohere

Midnight the car did not start charging and at 10 past I went out and unlocked the door and charging started. Locked it again.  Charged to 100% and 110 miles.  14kWh.    Display in the house shows 14.5 kWh and £4.98 so the 30.7 pence a kWh and not 6.9 and the 98 pence it should be.       ?would that be the display just not having the 2 tier pricing?   Emailed them..

 

EDIT, sorted. (hopefully.)

They needed to send update to meter / home display.

Will show in 24 hours.  Box left unplugged in till 10.30 am Thursday.  

Edited 18 September, 20241 yr by Ootohere