New to the Skoda DSG & cant understand if Superb has an autohold feature when coming to a temporary stop.

 

As an example, pull up to some traffic lights.

If I keep my foot lightly on the brake, the engine won't automatically auto stop.

If I depress the brake a bit further auto stop kicks in, this is nice & logical to manage.

 

However, if I'm waiting some time, I don't like to stay with my brake lights blasting at the car behind & want to remove my foot from the brake pedal.

 

On my previous Volvo & Merc  autos you can kind of double press the brake pedal and it will activate an AutoHold feature which holds the car stationary (you can remove your foot from the brake pedal & the engine stays stopped) until you tap the accelerator pedal then it will start & creep again.

 

Is there a way to do this with the brake pedal of the Superb? 

 

If I remove my foot from the pedal, the engine starts and it begins to creep forward again.

 

I can achieve the same behaviour in the Superb by manually activating the eParkingBrake but wondered if its possible without this extra manual step? 

 

Edited 29 November, 20232 yr by Gabbo

Have Stop / Start off, have Autohold on.

 

***The Brake lights are still on with Autohold active on your car.***

     So no different from you there with foot on the brake pedal.

 

 Autohold has the front and rear brakes working unlike the e-Brake / parking  which is just the rear brakes.

 

PS

As to ACC and starting the car, or following the car in front as it moves off, i have no idea. 

Edited 29 November, 20232 yr by Rooted

Maybe I'm not using the correct terminology when I say "autohold".

 

I mean a function where I can remove my foot from the brake pedal, the engine will stay stopped & the car will keep itself stationary (whether with the main brake or parking brake) until I press the accelerator pedal again.

 

It works if I manually activate the parking brake but with other automatics I've driven it was more intuitive and everything could be done using only the brake and accelerator.

Yeah, i think it's the ( A ) button that is next to the handbrake button between the gear lever and cup holder.  I prefer having it on, i had a bit of a wtf moment driving my sister's Kodiaq when it didn't behave as i thought it should.

@GabboAUTOHOLD does not apply the e-brake / parking brake,  AUTOHOLD when you press the brake pedal then remove your foot applies the brakes via actuators and holds the car at a stop. If there is not enough pressure / movement more brake pressure is applied.

 

The Brake lights used to not be on with some VW Group cars, but for the last few years they are.  Check see.  Plenty other drivers have no idea the brake lights are on.

 

Opening your door, taking off your seat belt, even going to N or P with some cars applies the e-brake / parking brake.  Rear Brakes.

P locks the front wheels with a pawl. 

 

...............

Look in Owners Manual and on dash.

 

AUTOHOLD will show a GREEN Circle with a Foot.

e-Brake / Parking RED.

Auto - Stop / Start might be a switch light with A Orange Circle was an A.     Lights on Stop / Start switch might be Amber, or Auto hold might be Anber, 

on a E-Brake should be RED, Some are Amber. 

 

Different strokes for different folks. 

Edited 29 November, 20232 yr by Rooted

@Gabbo yes the autohold function works as you expect just without the double press malarkey. Simply come to a stop and release the pedal.  If you still creep then press a bit harder.  As per @Rooted comment, the brake lights will likely stay on though it's worth checking this function.  Pulling the e-brake should turn them off.  Then assuming you are still in D, press the go pedal and off you go with brake lights turning off if relevant.

Like others had said if on your console the button with A is not lit then auto hold is not enabled, hold it down for a few seconds and it’ll turn orange, which means enabled

 

When that’s on rock up at a lights, use your brake pedal then let go and shouldn’t be moving.

 

You are then free to do what I imagine other people do and pick your nose, scratch your ass, check yourself in the mirror and completely ignore the fact the lights are green 😂

Awesome thanks for the input, I assumed it was something simple like this. 👍

Even better without the double press on the pedal.

I'll try it next time I take it out...

 

Does it stay in the previous state each time you return to the car? 

23 minutes ago, Gabbo said:

Awesome thanks for the input, I assumed it was something simple like this. 👍

Even better without the double press on the pedal.

I'll try it next time I take it out...

 

Does it stay in the previous state each time you return to the car? 

Yes, but be careful when dropping it off at a garage for MOT/service as they never remember to turn it back on 🤦 been a few times I’ve left and almost crashed coming out

Yes if you have AUTOHOLD enabled.  Button pressed and little light on AMBER showing that it is enabled.

11 hours ago, Gabbo said:

However, if I'm waiting some time, I don't like to stay with my brake lights blasting at the car behind & want to remove my foot from the brake pedal.

 

 

 

The auto-hold function unfortunately keeps the brake lights on even with foot off the brake pedal. I'm sure this is why so many cars sit at the lights with their brake lights on! If you want to shut off the brake lights the only option is to activate the parking brake. Not sure how good an idea it is to do that routinely many times per drive, since the parking brake relies on electric motors to motor out the rear brake pads. And electric motors don't have an infinite life. Maybe just do it at night?

Shame, is it something that can be coded to turn off the brake lights? 

 

I wouldn't worry about activating the parking brake too much.

It's what it's designed for & most average peoples usage will be in the lower percentile if you compare with taxis, postal vans, delivery drivers etc

If you ask how TJA control logic is, it's quite simple actually.

Once the car in front of you stops, it stops your car to. Then there's a 30s timer.

If the car ahead moves within these 30s, your car will moves forward on its own. Otherwise, you need to either press the gas pedal or use the resume function on the ACC stalk (just pull) to make it move forward.

14 hours ago, Rooted said:

As to ACC and starting the car, or following the car in front as it moves off, i have no idea. 

 

If you ask how TJA control logic is, it's quite simple actually.

Once the car in front of you stops, it stops your car too. Then there's a 30s timer.

If the car ahead moves within these 30s, your car will moves forward on its own. Otherwise, you need to either press the gas pedal or use the resume function on the ACC stalk (just pull) to make it move forward.

4 hours ago, Bap33 said:

 

If you ask how TJA control logic is, it's quite simple actually.

Once the car in front of you stops, it stops your car too. Then there's a 30s timer.

If the car ahead moves within these 30s, your car will moves forward on its own. Otherwise, you need to either press the gas pedal or use the resume function on the ACC stalk (just pull) to make it move forward.

 

its a 3 sec timer, not 30 secs.

 

i wish it was possible to set it to 30 secs!!!

As to the Coding out of the Brake Lights, and the Brake Lights being on then there are several threads on that on Briskoda.

 

If you are the tail end charlie in a line of traffic stopped you want / need the brake lights on though.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/497760-code-out-brake-lights-on-autohold

 

Edited 30 November, 20232 yr by Rooted

21 hours ago, Gabbo said:

Shame, is it something that can be coded to turn off the brake lights? 

Why do you want to have them off?

I´m not judging, just trying to understand a point of view which is different from mine. 😉

9 minutes ago, Bap33 said:

Why do you want to have them off? 

 

It's having them off when not pressing the brake pedal so you don't blind people behind. Modern high level led lights are quite bright.

Same for me, as courtesy for the driver behind me.

Modern lights are so bright and its annoying even in daylight when the high level light is right into your face...

 

 

Hope ur insurance company doesn't find out u've got "defective" brake lights when a car/van/truck/bus smashes into the back of u, whilst stationary.

 

Please please please, for the safety of others, and urself, do not medel with the brake lights behaviour!!

 

If tail lights r too bright.....wear sun glasses during the day. 

They also have night glasses - wear that.

26 minutes ago, JR RS said:

Hope ur insurance company doesn't find out u've got "defective" brake lights when a car/van/truck/bus smashes into the back of u, whilst stationary.

How do you argue that brake lights that go out when you take your foot off the pedal are "defective"?

Brake lights should come on when you are Braking/slowing down they should not need to be on when you have stopped.

 

Anyone who runs into the back of an already stationary vehicle isn't paying attention.

On 29/11/2023 at 20:58, Gabbo said:

Shame, is it something that can be coded to turn off the brake lights? 

 

I wouldn't worry about activating the parking brake too much.

It's what it's designed for & most average peoples usage will be in the lower percentile if you compare with taxis, postal vans, delivery drivers etc

 

I doubt it. Most likely the brake lights are activated by a pressure sensor in the brake hydraulic circuit which directly operates the brake lights. Perhaps it is done via CANBUS rather than hard wiring, but even if so a safety analysis would preclude the ability to disable the brake lights in software.

Even without the brake lights there are the DRLs and then normal rear lights if dark so I don't see why the brake lights are necessary when you are stationary & aren't even pressing the brake pedal.

 

This is the same as all of the cars out there without this feature where the brake light is only activated when you press the brake pedal.

 

There are obviously exceptions e.g. Where you stop unexpectedly on a fast road but then here you keep you foot on the pedal & the brake lights are illuminated as normal.

On 30/11/2023 at 22:24, Paws4Thot said:

How do you argue that brake lights that go out when you take your foot off the pedal are "defective"?

Because coding is not the orginal one, I guess...

Additionally, some people think they can play being wizzards wich VCDS or ODBeleven, but they do make a mess... They probably don't only deactivate the brake light with autohold...  

 

A bit like Mickey Mouse playing sorcerer's apprentice and try to have the house get cleaned by brooms and buckets. But in the end, he only makes a huge mess... 😱😄