As per the title.

 

I'm seen mention of rear drum brakes on some derivatives but no mention of what is actually on the 1.5.

Have you not checked online? I paid £100 for rear discs on my Monte Carlo 1.0.

I've been through the configurater a number of times when deciding on the spec but didn't see any option to upgrade to rear discs so hoping that with the extra performance of the 1.5 that they are fitted as standard.

If you order a new Fabia there is no longer an option to specify rear disc brakes. 
 

The brake specification is front discs and rear drums, and this applies to all Fabia models irrespective of the 'trim' or the motor/transmission.

 

(This is reasonably clear from the Fabia configurator.)

" Disc brakes standard on the rear of the 1.5 TSI DSG."

 

 

29 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

" Disc brakes standard on the rear of the 1.5 TSI DSG."

 

 

Appears to have gone from the April 2024 brochure

 

 

https://www.skoda.co.uk/_doc/775d73bc-eb9d-4a50-911e-863d73b99333

Gone is the option of having them fitted to 1.0TSI,s for £100. 

Not that they are still standard on 1.5 TSI DSG,s. 

Thanks guys, I've come back to your replies after spending quite sometime on the configurater and downloading the brochure and still not finding the answer.

 

The configurater says disc brakes on the front and drums on the rear but nowhere does it say that the 1.5 has rear disc brakes.

 

But given that in the previous brochure it does state that the 1.5 has rear discs I think it safe to assume that is still the case given the performance of the car with that engine.

 

I can't even remember the last car we had that had rear drum brakes! Though our son's Mazda 2 does.

Rear drums would be fine.  150 ps.  Performance might be quicker ,0-62 mph, but you do not brake while accelerating   so if you drive faster than the 60 or 70 mph that you might in 95 or 115 ps car are you always on the brakes?    Are you driving fast mountain passss and always on the brakes,?     The car might be a bit heavier but the Drums in the rear work.   As it is Skoda disk brakes are crap.    A heavier MK2 vRS has discs on the rear.  Hopeless brakes that rust easily.     It would make no difference to me if drums.  I used the gears of the semi automatic DSG not the brakes.   If it is about the look. Well little rear discs on the rear are hardly impressive. 

 

Edited 11 May, 20242 yr by Ootohere

When I was in the process of buying my October 2023-built Fabia I noticed that the Skoda configurator was specifying that "drum brakes" were part of the standard specification for all Fabia models. I assumed this meant that drum brakes would just be on the rear and I could find nothing to indicate that rear disc brakes were available as a (quite inexpensive) cost option as in the past. I mentioned this to the salesman, who said that ALL UK-specification Fabia cars now had rear drum brakes and confirmed that the rear disc brake option had been discontinued.

 

Interestingly (at least to me!) this is not the case for 2024 model-year Fabias sold in France.

 

French Fabias have four 'trim' levels. Lowest-to-highest these are called  Active, Selection, Limited Edition or Monte Carlo and the specification listing indicates that only the Active cars have rear drum brakes, with the three higher trims having rear disc brakes (freins à disques à l'arrière) as standard. (There's no option to specify disc rear brakes for Active trim cars.)

Does the1.5tsi DSG come in all those trim levels?  Because really that is what the OP is concerned about.   1.0 TSI is never going to the track is it? But then is a 1.5TSI ? 

Ootahere - I agree with everything you say about the performance of the brakes, especially as the manufacturer has to ensure that they are upto the job and it's the front brakes that are doing most of the work.

 

I'm old enough to have had cars with drum brakes all round and just find it a bit strange that some cars still have them on the rear. The difference in cost as said isn't great (even less for the manufacturer) and the increased cost wouldn't be noticed by the customer. And why would the manufacturer want another variable on the production line? I just don't understand their fitment really and something else for techs to deal with!

 

Drum brakes can work really well but they need setting up properly. I passed my test in my mother's Moggy 1000 Countryman and was worried about the emergency stop as the brakes weren't brilliant!

I bought my Fabia SE L off a Skoda dealer's forecourt, so the fact that it had rear drum brakes (I checked with a torch) was irrelevant.

 

However, I was rather surprised that Skoda were (apparently) fitting rear drum brakes to all Fabia models, including those with the 1.5litre motor. If I had been factory-ordering a new Fabia, I would have made absolutely certain that there was no rear disc brake option and, if I wanted the 1.5litre motor, confirmed whether this had rear disks as standard. I would definitely not have relied on Skoda on-line documentation. 

I read expert views on the Monte Carlo before ordering and it is clearly not intended as a performance car whatever the engine chosen. What you get is decent performance plus really comfortable seats. A hot hatch is better bought from a maker like Ford and just about any electric vehicle will take off like a scalded cat compared with a Fabia with go faster stripes.  Whether or not my mc has disk or drum at the back I can't say.  The wheels have plastic aero covers on and I'm not keen to pull them off.  None of my paperwork gives much detail on what it is equipped with. The brakes work very well though and may well be what have been described in the forum as "grabby."

19 minutes ago, bazz2004 said:

I read expert views on the Monte Carlo before ordering and it is clearly not intended as a performance car whatever the engine chosen. What you get is decent performance plus really comfortable seats. A hot hatch is better bought from a maker like Ford and just about any electric vehicle will take off like a scalded cat compared with a Fabia with go faster stripes.  Whether or not my mc has disk or drum at the back I can't say.  The wheels have plastic aero covers on and I'm not keen to pull them off.  None of my paperwork gives much detail on what it is equipped with. The brakes work very well though and may well be what have been described in the forum as "grabby."

Having owned possibly some 30 odd cars over the years, and regularly serviced several family members cars over these years, I was only too happy to pay £100 to avoid rear drums/shoes. They can be an absolute nightmare in wet weather, particularly in the winter. My wife's VW UP is the worst ever, common talking point on VW UP forums. Have on numerous occasions had to remove and stripdown/clean them as they became seized solid. I now do it every Autumn and then again pre- MOT time in March, total pain in the ar.e. Any car I have owned with discs and pads on rear has been totally maintenace free.

Edit. I asked dealer not to fit the aero trims and just bought centre cap and nut covers. I think those covers will lead to some issues with the alloys and brakes as it looks like it is impossible to thoroughly clean all the road crud and brake show dust from behind them.

Edited 14 May, 20242 yr by Tintowellfan

The issue has been for many many years with Fabia and Citigo is that while Skoda Servicing showed wheels of and inspect brakes they did not and do not do that.

As for Disc Brakes, that is the common subject all through Briskoda sections,  Crap rusty discs that at main servicing the Service Staff say are 80% worn.

Especially around your way @Tintowellfan But then that is Park,s & Arnold Clark,s usual. 

 

Tesla,s have regen braking, but there are still discs and behind aero covers and no crud.

VW EV,s have rear drum brakes, but then they are rear wheel drive and there is regen braking. 

There are aero covers on the front and rear with some. with steel wheels, no crud. 

 

Actually it is often cars parked road side that have the drivers side discs with the worst rust in winter from the water / brine from salted roads splashed through the alloy wheels. 

I am pretty sure that is the same in Lanark.

1 minute ago, Ootohere said:

The issue has been for many many years with Fabia and Citigo is that while Skoda Servicing showed wheels of and inspect brakes they did not and do not do that.

As for Disc Brakes, that is the common subject all through Briskoda sections,  Crap rusty discs that at main servicing the Service Staff say are 80% worn.

Especially around your way @Tintowellfan But then that is Park,s & Arnold Clark,s usual. 

 

Tesla,s have regen braking, but there are still discs and behind aero covers and no crud.

VW EV,s have rear drum brakes, but then they are rear wheel drive and there is regen braking. 

There are aero covers on the front and rear with some. with steel wheels, no crud. 

 

Actually it is often cars parked road side that have the drivers side discs with the worst rust in winter from the water / brine from salted roads splashed through the alloy wheels. 

I am pretty sure that is the same in Lanark.

Only going by my personal experiences. Had my Vauxhall Mokka from new and owned it through nine harsh Lanarkshire winters. Rear discs and pads survived throughout, no maintenance. Previously owned a number of Mk2 Golf GTi's, all with rear discs and zero maintenance. Now don't get me started on all the drum braked cars we have owned. Definitely the crappest is the UP, but every Corsa we have owned, and there have been many, all needed varying degrees of rear brake work in preparation for winter and after. Cheap job if doing myself, but still a pain in the backside.

@Tintowellfan My thread is on here with pictures from the Corsa electric from 2020 that i had for 3 years and had the 3rd replacement discs fitted after it went through the auction when Motability sold it at 3 years.  They needed replacing before the dealership could sell it to some poor person that was landed with it.

That is from the first rears replaced after the winter in Scotland and under 8,000 miles.

But then the brakes really never got used, but it did plenty of miles passing through your way & further north in the hills.

But then cleaning off the rears rust with a e-brake is near impossible.  & As soon as you touch the brake pedal the car stops.

 

As for Fabia rear discs. I am further north than you, and there is much more salting, and the discs rust for fun. 

Edited 14 May, 20242 yr by Ootohere

20 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

@Tintowellfan My thread is on here with pictures from the Corsa electric from 2020 that i had for 3 years and had the 3rd replacement discs fitted after it went through the auction when Motability sold it at 3 years.  They needed replacing before the dealership could sell it to some poor person that was landed with it.

That is from the first rears replaced after the winter in Scotland and under 8,000 miles.

But then the brakes really never got used, but it did plenty of miles passing through your way & further north in the hills.

But then cleaning off the rears rust with a e-brake is near impossible.  & As soon as you touch the brake pedal the car stops.

 

As for Fabia rear discs. I am further north than you, and there is much more salting, and the discs rust for fun. 

Thanks for that, I look forward to replacing the discs/pads in the not too forseeable future then!!! Haha. My Mokka's discs did really surprise me, the fronts I changed three times, I think, but the rears just kept soldiering on. I never use my handbrake, possibly a good or bad thing, but prefer not to use it, then no chance I will be stuck in morning when attempting to drive off.

Volvo have changed the steel used in their discs and they rust more readily now and sometimes I have to move the car forwards and backwards to get them to release and when they do it's with a loud crack which doesn't sit well with my mechanical sympathy. This can be just after one damp night.

 

I was away for 4 weeks earlier in the year (when it raining!) and was worried about what I would find when I got back, especially as I read on a Polestar forum, which use the same brakes, that some owners had experienced pieces of brake pad being ripped off! Fortunately they released without much drama much to my relief!

 

As said, the trouble with a lot of modern cars is that the brakes often aren't worked that hard, mine being a mild-hybrid, to dry them off or remove surface rust. Also you can't leave the " handbrake" off as it is automatically applied when you stop the engine.

 

As regards the Fabia I did find a document online from Skoda that did state that brakes for all engines are disc front and drum rear but I'm not sure if that is for the UK? I've also asked the salesman to check with the service manager what is fitted to the latest ones. Ultimately it won't really matter but I would prefer discs but it's looking like Hobsons choice.

@VAGCF  If you look harder you will find out how to leave the e-Brake off. 

Necessary for servicing and other reasons, like rolling / pushing a vehicle.  Wheel changing etc. Including winter parking. 

 

My options from last year. Do not seem available now.

Equipment packages
Comfort package basic £330
– USB-C port by rear view mirror (charging only)
– Variable boot floor
– Space-saving spare wheel
Practicality
Disk brakes in rear £100

Of the options you've listed the following are still available.

 

1: Comfort Package - now called "Charging Package" providing a USB-C port on the rear-view mirror and USB-C charging sockets with increased charging performance (2x front, 2x rear) -- £350

 

2:  Variable boot floor -- £175

 

3: Emergency space-saving spare wheel (for 16"-18" wheels) -- £150

 

As has been observed above, the option to replace the now-standard drum rear brakes with disc brakes is no longer available.

 

All the options available for the very latest Fabia Monte Carlo model can be found here.

 

https://cc.skoda-auto.com/gbr/en-GB/extras-scenic?activePage=extraequipments&color=8X8X&configurationId=&extraEquipments=&id=GBR%3Bskoda%3B2024%3BPJ37L5%3B0%3BGYOKYOK%3Bmda20240514082659%3Ben-GB%3B%3B60007%3B60217&interior=NV&modifiedPages=trimlines&snapshotVersion=c9daccf6-51dd-4656-ab6f-eb556811d979&trimline=PJ7|Monte Carlo6021760007&visitedPages=trimlines

 

(This may help with disabling a Volvo XC40's automatic parking brake)

 

https://www.volvocars.com/uk/support/car/xc40/article/4e034dd7899c6641c0a8015156455109

Edited 15 May, 20242 yr by DerekU

I have rear disc brakes on my 1.5t.

 

I bought a cancelled order that was already spec'd with a couple of packs, unfortunately no mention of a rear disc upgrade.

Seems pretty clear from the configurator that the 1.5 MC has rear discs as standard.

https://cc.skoda-auto.com/gbr/en-GB/summary-scenic?activePage=summary&color=8X8X&configurationId=C9A070R8&extraEquipments=&id=GBR%3Bskoda%3B2024%3BPJ37PD%3B0%3BGYOKYOK%3Bmda20240514082659%3Ben-GB%3B%3B60007%3B60217&interior=NV&modifiedPages=trimlines|engines&snapshotVersion=c9daccf6-51dd-4656-ab6f-eb556811d979&trimline=PJ7|Monte Carlo6021760007&visitedPages=trimlines|colors|wheels|interiors|engines|extraequipments|services

 

Disk brakes in frontFront assist including emergency brakingLane assistBreakdown kitSeparate daytime running light with automatic headlight control and manual coming and leaving home featureKey for locking system with remote controlAnti-theft alarm system, interior monitoring, backup horn and towing protectionRear parking sensorsThree rear head restraintsThree-point height adjustable front seat beltsProactive servicesCruise control with speed limiterRear shock absorptionAdvanced driver attention and drowsiness monitorDisk brakes in rear

Edited 15 May, 20242 yr by Tintowellfan