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Actual v estimated mileage and charger anxiety

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Hi all.

Two weeks ago I took delivery of my Elroq Edition 60 with Plus Pack.

After several years with a Karoq.

I find that the estimated mileage is significantly less than the mileage I achieve. I’ve read up about driving style and watch the Mi/kWH figure.

After switching to ECO mode and using D on motorways and A in town, I’ve achieved between 3.4-3.8 Mi/kWh figure.

This, plus only charging to 80% (circa 190 mile estimate) means I am suffering charging anxiety, constantly concerned to find a quick charge to complete my journey, then having to find something to do to fill the time while charging.

Then there is the cost of using public chargers. My strategy was to use home charging predominantly, giving the near spec of 260 miles range with occasional top up from a public charger.

It’s all rather disappointing.

Any tips, views or ideas would be very welcome please.

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21 minutes ago, FrankL said:

estimated mileage is significantly less than the mileage I achieve.

… silly me! Of course I meant…

… estimated mileage is significantly MORE than the mileage I can achieve.

Do not only charge to only 80% if you want to go further, Why not 100% at home, or 99%. & 90% or 95% if you want & @ public charges when not crazy expensive, or 99% is Simply Clever. Plunge pricing today with Electroverse, Tesla non Tesla charging pretty much the cheapest if you have no Subscriptions. 100% charge at home x 3.5 miles a kWh, 59 kWh usable battery is over 200 miles. ECO mode is a no no for me in any BEV because really i prefer get a move on and coast and regen a little, not high regen. ********** 260 miles from 59 kWh would require 4.4 miles a kWh. Low 20,s oC, under 50 MPH, no AC on etc etc. Or a car under a unreal WLTP Regime not on a real road.******** Or just canny canny hypermiling.

Edited by Evolution13

Just charge it to 100%. We nuke ours each time to max and we are currently seeing 284 miles range on a full charge.

For clarity, ours is a company car so if the battery is toast after 4 years it's not our problem however, our previous car (Tesla M3) we always charged to full and in 4 years and almost 70k miles it only lost about 10 miles in range.

Charging at home is AC charging & to 100% is not going to be an issue with degradation of the battery.

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3 hours ago, Scrounger said:

Just charge it to 100%. We nuke ours each time to max and we are currently seeing 284 miles range on a full charge.

For clarity, ours is a company car so if the battery is toast after 4 years it's not our problem however, our previous car (Tesla M3) we always charged to full and in 4 years and almost 70k miles it only lost about 10 miles in range.

Many thanks. So what settings have you on the car for battery management? It seems like the Elroq automatically will only charge to 80%!

Also, is a log of charging levels recorded and can Skoda check this if you make a warranty claim?

There are no Terms & Conditions for the Battery Warranty that you if you buy a BEV from VW group you can not charge it to full and get the sort of range they advertise as that would Invalidate the warranty. So what does it matter the charge levels? Not good if you leave the battery almost or at empty for prolonged periods.

Edited by Evolution13

Just turn off the battery management option. It doesn't really do anything apart from limiting your ability to charge to 100%.

As mentioned, Skoda, or VW for that matter, cannot invalidte your warranty because you charge to 100%.

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The other day I was driving home from a holiday in Norfolk.
The car estimated mileage was 150 and my planned mileage was 120.
I was set on Eco mode and B drive. All was going well until. I got to about 25% battery. Then suddenly the estimated remaining miles rapidly reduced. After driving 90 miles, battery had fallen away to 7% with 15 miles estimated remaining and I had to find a rapid charger to complete my journey.
What on earth is going on. What use is a mileage estimate if it is SO, SO inaccurate that it simply can't be relied upon?!*

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Maybe try next time not in ECO & B drive. Just get a move on and home.

On 19/05/2026 at 15:28, FrankL said:

What on earth is going on. What use is a mileage estimate if it is SO, SO inaccurate that it simply can't be relied upon?!*

The mileage estimate is always going to be an approximation. It starts off based on your previous journeys, but then gets updated as you drive based on current conditions. It is useful to look at the miles per kWh figure and how that compares to the longer term average. Different traffic conditions or air temperatures can all impact it. On the way to Cornwall last week, I only managed 3 miles per kWh on the first 2/3 of the journey, probably because it was only 2 or 3 degrees outside, compared to the return journey where I got 3.9 miles per kWh on the same stretch with warmer temperatures and slower traffic.

It would be useful to see the SoC on the battery in kWh rather than percentage because you could do the range calculations as you sit in the M5/M6 junction traffic jam!

So we charged our VRs up to 100% at home yesterday and the range is sat on 300. I know it'll drop if the ac is turned on but it's nice enough to crack a widow just a little.

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How have you managed 300? Is yours an Elroq 60?

I’m getting 240 miles at100%!

An Elroq vRS has a 79 kWh usable battery. 300 miles would be if getting about 3.8 miles to the kW/h. A Elroq 60 with a 63 kWh battery & 59 kWh usable is getting just over 4 miles a kW/h to go 240 miles. You need to be getting 4.4 miles a kW/h to go 260 miles.

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I’m interested in threads like this. Playing with arithmetic and Miles per kWh, etc.

My present Kodiaq has crept up to 21p per mile now that fuel prices have risen, so I will want next car to be cheaper.

Roll on Xmas time when I’ll have to make a choice for next vehicle to suit lead times for a custom spec vehicle.

I’m trying to tell myself to remove my “Skoda blinkers” and widen my options. But it’s difficult.

My Off Peak at 5.9 pence a kWh means 55 kWh home charging is £3.25 & if getting 3.1 mile a kW/h i can go 152 miles. But then if i need to Public Charge @ 65 pence to get back that is 50 x 65 = £32.50. 300 miles is £35.75........... If it was a petrol getting 40 mpg , 7.5 gallons, 34 litre @ 160 pence a litre. £54.55. More miles from home charging and you can be Larry. & if Better efficiency more so.

We're fortunate to live in the South West of Scotland so we don't do anything as uncivilised as motorways or traffic jams. Went for a jaunt to Dumfries today, air conditioning on but no boy racer stuff. 130 miles @ 4.4 miles/kWh. So home charge tonight 30kWh @ 4.9p/kWh on Octopus Go = £1.47. That's less than a litre of petrol, so suits me fine.

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4.4mi/kWh is impressive. How do you achieve that?

I’m very gentle on the throttle, D mode and mostly ECO drive. With A/C on I tend to get about 3.7 mi/kWh.

I know you have an 85 and I have a 60, bu5 can’t see that would make a difference.

@FrankL You are going to be disappointed when it gets to winter if it's not meeting your needs now.

If you regularly do over 260 miles a day you needed the 85

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9 hours ago, Stonekeeper said:

@FrankL You are going to be disappointed when it gets to winter if it's not meeting your needs now.

If you regularly do over 260 miles a day you needed the 85

I don’t think so , as I expect battery needs to be greater in the winter than the summer, although I tend to have the A/C on all year for both cooling nd heating. I don’t actually do high mileage, hence the 60 and not the 85.

I understand the limitations but my quest is to eke out as many miles from a charge as I can from an efficiency and cost point of view.

I average 3.7 mi/kWh and see others achieving the likes of 4.4. So I am interested to learn from them and discover how l can improve my driving and settings to improve my own mi/kWh figure.

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@FrankL maybe give some idea of where you are and where driving and the roads as in speed limits, types, average speed cameras or not about. An average speed on a journey of like 55 mph is very different from a 65 mph average. Then the type of road and the regen achieved or not. Have you tried other than ECO to get better efficiency?

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32 minutes ago, Evolution13 said:

@FrankL maybe give some idea of where you are and where driving and the roads as in speed limits, types, average speed cameras or not about. An average speed on a journey of like 55 mph is very different from a 65 mph average. Then the type of road and the regen achieved or not. Have you tried other than ECO to get better efficiency?

Many thanks. I live in North Hertfordshire, drive around town during the week and to Harlow and around there each weekend, 30 miles each way with A roads and some dual carriageway.

Once a month or so I drive to North Norfolk for a few days. It’s 90 miles each way , mostly motorways.

I use B around town and when stuck in traffic and D when on open roads and motorways. I usually set drive mode to ECO.

I am gentle on the accelerator and drive smoothly, with anticipation and no sudden braking or acceleration. I watch the green/blue line and try to minimise the green.

I charge to 100% at home and top up to 60/80% at rapid chargers as and when needed.

I’ve only had the car since March and am still learning a new way of driving, managing my charging and understanding the myriad setting. This is my first EV, coming from a petrol Karoq previously. Since March I have done 2,300 miles.

Thanks in advance for any hints and tips to improve my performance.

48 minutes ago, Evolution13 said:

@FrankL maybe give some idea of where you are and where driving and the roads as in speed limits, types, average speed cameras or not about. An average speed on a journey of like 55 mph is very different from a 65 mph average. Then the type of road and the regen achieved or not. Have you tried other than ECO to get better efficiency?

21 minutes ago, FrankL said:

I don’t think so , as I expect battery needs to be greater in the winter than the summer, although I tend to have the A/C on all year for both cooling nd heating. I don’t actually do high mileage, hence the 60 and not the 85.

I understand the limitations but my quest is to eke out as many miles from a charge as I can from an efficiency and cost point of view.

I average 3.7 mi/kWh and see others achieving the likes of 4.4. So I am interested to learn from them and discover how l can improve my driving and settings to improve my own mi/kWh figure.

I have an Enyaq 60, using aircon in my experience reduces range 10-15% and is shown in the estimate range prediction. Turn a/c on and off to see. I too only need to charge publicly if i go to Devon in my use case. I live in south lancs my son lives in Staffordshire. If I charge to 90% at home i can get there and back whatever the season. When I go to the Caravan I stop once south of Gloucester to charge and get comfortably get to Totnes with around 25% left leaving home around the 90% and recharging whilst having lunch. I never use B, i don't like it, I find in D the graphic for power used goes green when pressing the accelerator and does nothing when i take my foot off so the car coasts. on a motorway I set cruise (notacc) to 65 then drive at 67 but releasing the pedal results in regen, it's subtle but i find it works. It also regens downhill with CC set for any speed limit, I use it most of the time. Fuel saving tactics is the same as ice, acceleration and braking costs money so keep a decent gap and anticipate so any actually braking is regen.

The main difference I find from my Diesel is the more efficiency is now around town and worse on the motorway where as the diesel was best on the motorway.

If you use aircon set it to a comfortable rather than A hot or cold setting and leave it alone

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52 minutes ago, Stonekeeper said:

I have an Enyaq 60, using aircon in my experience reduces range 10-15% and is shown in the estimate range prediction. Turn a/c on and off to see. I too only need to charge publicly if i go to Devon in my use case. I live in south lancs my son lives in Staffordshire. If I charge to 90% at home i can get there and back whatever the season. When I go to the Caravan I stop once south of Gloucester to charge and get comfortably get to Totnes with around 25% left leaving home around the 90% and recharging whilst having lunch. I never use B, i don't like it, I find in D the graphic for power used goes green when pressing the accelerator and does nothing when i take my foot off so the car coasts. on a motorway I set cruise (notacc) to 65 then drive at 67 but releasing the pedal results in regen, it's subtle but i find it works. It also regens downhill with CC set for any speed limit, I use it most of the time. Fuel saving tactics is the same as ice, acceleration and braking costs money so keep a decent gap and anticipate so any actually braking is regen.

The main difference I find from my Diesel is the more efficiency is now around town and worse on the motorway where as the diesel was best on the motorway.

If you use aircon set it to a comfortable rather than A hot or cold setting and leave it alone

Interesting. I use ACC almost all the time now, for two reasons.
1. It responds to the speed limit and increases and reduces my speed as I cross speed limit signs.
2. In traffic, I can relax and let the ACC move me along with the traffic, starting and stopping as required. At first my foot was hovering over the brake. But now I have confidence that it works.

2 minutes ago, FrankL said:

Interesting. I use ACC almost all the time now, for two reasons.
1. It responds to the speed limit and increases and reduces my speed as I cross speed limit signs.
2. In traffic, I can relax and let the ACC move me along with the traffic, starting and stopping as required. At first my foot was hovering over the brake. But now I have confidence that it works.

My problem with acc is that it acts like a "pursuit" way of driving and for me closer to the vehicle in front than I would be. I look at traffic as far as i can see and respond to that not just the car in front.

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